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Disco Elysium spoilery thread

Saduj

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Yesterday I reloaded the save I made right before the tribunal because I realized that I forgot to talk to Cuno afterwards. I had a few successful conversations with him but most of what he had to say up to this point was variations on "fuck off". But I figured "He has to admire Harry after he shoots the big merc in the face!". So I go through the whole tribunal again just to see what the lad has to say and he tells me that he heard I was crying the whole time and then had my dick shot off. :lol:
 

Forest Dweller

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Question about tribunal:

Can you just sit back and let it happen? I ended up going in and getting minimum casualties, but I remember seeing the option to stay back. Curious if anyone's done this.
 

Prime Junta

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A small bit of meta that made me LOL, that you’ll only get if you’re a Finnish and a bit of a boomer, I have no idea how Marat Sar knew about the reference.

Soona the programmer with the lovely Binnish accent? Her last name is Luukanen-Kilde. Rauni-Leena Luukanen-Kilde was a wonderful crackpot who wrote stuff about ufology, parapsychology, conspiracy theories and what have you. She thought the swine flu vaccine was a plot by Henry Kissinger to exterminate most of the world’s population. Would have made a quality Codexian.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rauni-Leena_Luukanen-Kilde
 
Vatnik Wumao
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A small bit of meta that made me LOL, that you’ll only get if you’re a Finnish and a bit of a boomer, I have no idea how Marat Sar knew about the reference.

Soona the programmer with the lovely Binnish accent? Her last name is Luukanen-Kilde. Rauni-Leena Luukanen-Kilde was a wonderful crackpot who wrote stuff about ufology, parapsychology, conspiracy theories and what have you. She thought the swine flu vaccine was a plot by Henry Kissinger to exterminate most of the world’s population. Would have made a quality Codexian.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rauni-Leena_Luukanen-Kilde
By Ukko, Estonians are Finns after all.
 

Karwelas

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Kasparov Hey, Kasparov, out of curiosity, were you part of the original Tabletop literation of Disco Elysium. I'm curious as fuck about that one and wondering if I can hit you with a few questions.
 

Kasparov

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Kasparov Hey, Kasparov, out of curiosity, were you part of the original Tabletop literation of Disco Elysium. I'm curious as fuck about that one and wondering if I can hit you with a few questions.
I am not :(

Aww, shit. I always wondered how the game looked like and if Harry/Kim and the rest were PCs or NPCs.
I believe a bunch of your colleagues you reach via the Kineema's radio are characters from those sessions. Robert might talk about that at some point (hey, how about a DEVBLOG down the road?!)
 

Karwelas

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I believe a bunch of your colleagues you reach via the Kineema's radio are characters from those sessions. Robert might talk about that at some point (hey, how about a DEVBLOG down the road?!)

That would be pretty nice. I'm honestly interested in things about tabletop game and how they moved it into the paper, then into game.
 

Verylittlefishes

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I believe a bunch of your colleagues you reach via the Kineema's radio are characters from those sessions. Robert might talk about that at some point (hey, how about a DEVBLOG down the road?!)

That would be pretty nice. I'm honestly interested in things about tabletop game and how they moved it into the paper, then into game.

Not sure if it is relevant, but Pathologic also started as a tabletop game almost 20 years ago.
 

Kasparov

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I believe a bunch of your colleagues you reach via the Kineema's radio are characters from those sessions. Robert might talk about that at some point (hey, how about a DEVBLOG down the road?!)

That would be pretty nice. I'm honestly interested in things about tabletop game and how they moved it into the paper, then into game.
It's been talked about in some interviews. Sorry I can't pull them up right now because there are a ton of them by now.

As far as I know Rob DMd using a modified DnD ruleset and then at some point went AWOL from civilian life for a couple of years and poured himself into creating a version of METRIC that you see in Disco. I remember leafing through this one ancient notebook that had pages and pages of little icons for skills that he'd meticulously drawn and descriptions of the situations where those skills would be used. If you look at the skill descriptions tab in Disco Elysium you'll get a longer description of what each one does and in what kind of situations they come into play. Take your set values, roll the dice, hope your DM is good and enjoy the game. The whole system is pretty straightforward and fun to play.

Not sure if it is relevant, but Pathologic also started as a tabletop game almost 20 years ago.
Yeah I have the box set they published a few years ago!
 

Verylittlefishes

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Yeah I have the box set they published a few years ago!

I mean, there was another private group-game, much more fucked up, after which Dybowsky decided to make the game. The current tabletop Pathologic is adaptaton of adaptation then.

(also should I buy it?)

at some point went AWOL from civilian life for a couple of years and poured himself into creating a version of METRIC that you see in Disco.

Genius.
 

vota DC

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Question about tribunal:

Can you just sit back and let it happen? I ended up going in and getting minimum casualties, but I remember seeing the option to stay back. Curious if anyone's done this.
You will always go in the middle. You can decide to not react to mercenaries.
 

TT1

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Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Insert Title Here RPG Wokedex Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. My team has the sexiest and deadliest waifus you can recruit.
Kasparov Hey, Kasparov, out of curiosity, were you part of the original Tabletop literation of Disco Elysium. I'm curious as fuck about that one and wondering if I can hit you with a few questions.
I am not :(

Aww, shit. I always wondered how the game looked like and if Harry/Kim and the rest were PCs or NPCs.
I believe a bunch of your colleagues you reach via the Kineema's radio are characters from those sessions. Robert might talk about that at some point (hey, how about a DEVBLOG down the road?!)

Oh, I had lots of fun reading the old entries on the devblog. Lots of stuff there.

https://zaumstudio.com/devblog/page/21/
 

Deadass

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what happens if
you don't give speed to Cuno? Does he appear on the island? I gave it to him but he wasn't there
 

Alpan

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Grab the Codex by the pussy Pathfinder: Wrath
I have to wonder if the Pale is a sort of meta-commentary on the nature of role-playing sessions and the fact that their participants (eventually, due to life or by simple virtue of the game ending) move on.

From how it is presented in game one gets the impression that the Pale is either null data (as in the "2 mm hole in the world", apparently representing "nothing") or arbitrary data (i.e. whatever data remains at a given memory address at the time of its accession, like in the case of uninitialized variables in a language like C). It then overwrites reality (i.e. the actual game data) with its own information at a given location. To this we introduce the notion of pale-surfing where people move through the pale to reach whatever location they wish to go. We are told that this adversely affects the mental makeup of the participants, as in Joyce and the pale-driver, and possibly also our main character.

But what causes the characters to move around in the first place? The game master and the players who, depending on the session, place the characters where they need to be. But role-playing sessions are often separated by lengthy time intervals. Weeks if not months can pass before a session can resume. No participant is going to have the exact same notion of a character they were playing between sessions. Their recollections of the character will differ and so will how they role-play that character, however subtle the difference may be. Over many sessions the differences will add up, the character will change, hence the mental warping.

Still older characters fondly remembered can be reused for new sessions, new adventures. They can be given a lease of new life and a new role. But what does it mean to be an older character to be repurposed? It means that the character loses any sense of time and with it a singular identity. Multiple identities can then overlap, memories can intermix. Such characters can become pale-drivers.

What happens when sessions conclude, participants leave, campaigns finish? Part of the setting is shelved, though not forgotten. Maybe they reside in the memory of the participants and the characters they bring over to new campaigns; but still the locations are no longer visited, so they are overwritten by the Pale. If a tree falls in the woods and nobody's there to hear it, the tree doesn't exist. The participants' attention is elsewhere.

What happens if there isn't anybody left to play? When there are no longer any sessions running? The Pale wins -- reality is overcome entirely. Nothing remains. Thank you for playing, and thank you for the good times. The group disbands -- but maybe one day they will Return?
 

vota DC

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The Pale is just an unkwnown menace that people use to have an excuse to ride flying white giant dogs when their horse sunk in a swamp.
 

Verylittlefishes

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The Pale is just an unkwnown menace that people use to have an excuse to ride flying white giant dogs when their horse sunk in a swamp.

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TT1

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Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Insert Title Here RPG Wokedex Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. My team has the sexiest and deadliest waifus you can recruit.
Where is the hat? I cannot find it anywhere and I can see screenshots with it early in the game
 

Belegarsson

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Where is the hat? I cannot find it anywhere and I can see screenshots with it early in the game
Which one, the Mullen fedora? Try the bookstore.
 

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