Disco Elysium spoilery thread

[Deadass]

btw

Spoiler

is the captain of the 41st precinct planning some secret rebellion shite against the coalition? the last esprit de corps check make it seems so

Can you quote the relevant part?

Spoiler

 

[Twiglard]

It sucks that Gizmo wants to move drug problems to Jamrock. He should move them outside Revachol. The place seems to be full of misery and lacking any sensible future.

 

[Alpan]

So, have people come across any particularly interesting passive checks, especially at Heroic level and above? I never really pumped any skill above 11 in my two playthroughs, but have had a few Godly checks, though nothing too interesting. I wonder if there are Impossible passive checks.

In general it seems the game doesn't really reward specializing in any way, and for a game ostensibly about "failure", failure or early-exit states in general seem short-changed. For example, there is no point in arresting Klaasje (which I did for my first playthrough) nor the church crew, all the arrests do is to lock you out of content or interesting tidbits; in my first playthrough that meant I didn't get Klaasje's passport from the phasmid in the end, as the subject never came up and I never investigated the buoy.

 

[Pyreen]

So, have people come across any particularly interesting passive checks, especially at Heroic level and above? I never really pumped any skill above 11 in my two playthroughs, but have had a few Godly checks, though nothing too interesting. I wonder if there are Impossible passive checks.

In general it seems the game doesn't really reward specializing in any way, and for a game ostensibly about "failure", failure or early-exit states in general seem short-changed. For example, there is no point in arresting Klaasje (which I did for my first playthrough) nor the church crew, all the arrests do is to lock you out of content or interesting tidbits; in my first playthrough that meant I didn't get Klaasje's passport from the phasmid in the end, as the subject never came up and I never investigated the buoy.

So far the most interesting checks seem to be situational more than level dependant, there is a very interesting shivers check which you can only get if you are on the church grounds while it's snowing. It reveals a ot of lore about the immediate surroundings and gives more info about what I assume are the ideological vision quests they had to cut, as well as about the "dungeons" they were talking about in the devlogs which they also had to cut.

Re. Klaasje, I always arrest her and still get the passport and buoy options every endgame, so those have to be dependant on some other variable.

 

[StaticSpine]

Oh, bros. I remember at the end of the game I had one unresolved quest about the blue door. What must've I done to open it?

 

[Prime Junta]

Oh, bros. I remember at the end of the game I had one unresolved quest about the blue door. What must've I done to open it?

The key is behind the window of the Union cabinet. You need Per to notice it.

 

[ItsChon]

Oh, bros. I remember at the end of the game I had one unresolved quest about the blue door. What must've I done to open it?

The key is behind the window of the Union cabinet. You need Per to notice it.

Spoiler

You can also just hulk slam through the door on Klasje's roof.

 

[Alpan]

So far the most interesting checks seem to be situational more than level dependant, there is a very interesting shivers check which you can only get if you are on the church grounds while it's snowing. It reveals a ot of lore about the immediate surroundings and gives more info about what I assume are the ideological vision quests they had to cut, as well as about the "dungeons" they were talking about in the devlogs which they also had to cut.

Re. Klaasje, I always arrest her and still get the passport and buoy options every endgame, so those have to be dependant on some other variable.

Yes, that check is actually what prompted me to ask the question as it appeared to give information that hinted at plans beyond the game. There are always hints in other Shivers checks -- about the Return, La Puta Madre... but that check was the most concretely realized. All three sub-zones (Martinaise proper, the coast, and the islet) have their "overview" Shivers checks; that one is the most interesting, and the only one with a weather requirement.

I guess I just missed something about Klaasje the first time around!

 

[Prime Junta]

When I visited them in 2017 Robert said that he has a much bigger game already outlined, Disco is its first chapter.

 

[Twiglard]

So far the most interesting checks seem to be situational more than level dependant, there is a very interesting shivers check which you can only get if you are on the church grounds while it's snowing. It reveals a ot of lore about the immediate surroundings and gives more info about what I assume are the ideological vision quests they had to cut, as well as about the "dungeons" they were talking about in the devlogs which they also had to cut.

Could you please transcribe/screenshot it?

 

[Deadass]

another curious thing

Spoiler

in the church there is a shivers check that tells you Revachol will be destroyed in 22 years by a nuclear blast

 

[ScrotumBroth]

I've finished the game and have burning questions.

Is there a way to help Cuno and his friend? I felt like we've bonded a bit, but then it's business as usual.

Is dicemaker a one time only encounter? I couldn't go to her room again.

Is there a way to play the production schedule filament?

I've done the church questline late in game and feel like I've been locked out of finishing the 2mm hole logic check, something about Pale giving me a -10. What gives Pale understanding? Clearly not Ruby encounter.

And is finding Van Dyke's posters pertinent to finishing the syne quest for Egg? I had 8% chance to help him mix it up with my poor hand eye coordination.

Do we know for a fact that the deserter was peeping Tom and the shooter in the case? I've found the whole phasmid encounter surreal.

Is there any purpose whatsoever of having Joyce move to the fishing village? I've finished talking to her early on and had no new lines.

What happens when Harry finishes the realization he's an alcoholic thought? It's so slow I've finished the game before it was done.

Is Klaasje's insane shivers check related to figuring her out?

What's inside the rhetoric container?

 

[Prime Junta]

(1) Yes but man does it cost you.
(2) I could visit her several times.
(3) Yes.
(4) Joyce L. Messier.
(5) Don't know.
(6) Yes.
(7) Depends on your previous convos. You clearly missed a big, big chunk of Joyce L. Messier for some reason.
(8) Sort of.
(9) A very, very, very rich man.

 

[vota DC]

The sober thought is long but really powerful. If you don't mind physique you get a +1 on empathy, authority, volition and Esprit! You also get a penalty on physical insteument and no more bonus from al gul.

 

[HoboForEternity]

The sober thought is long but really powerful. If you don't mind physique you get a +1 on empathy, authority, volition and Esprit! You also get a penalty on physical insteument and no more bonus from al gul.

do you have to be sober all game ?

 

[vota DC]

No, it just deny the bonus.

 

[ScrotumBroth]

(7) Depends on your previous convos. You clearly missed a big, big chunk of Joyce L. Messier for some reason.

I had a very hard white check when we discussed reality and world we live in, but this was long before I started Church quest. I wonder if game never counted a player would drill Joyce thoroughly early in game.
What unlocks the Pale convo with her?

Also, aerodrome made me chuckle. Only a Slav would use that word.

 

[Prime Junta]

I had a very hard white check when we discussed reality and world we live in, but this was long before I started Church quest. I wonder if game never counted a player would drill Joyce thoroughly early in game.
What unlocks the Pale convo with her?

That one. You have to either get lucky with the check, have very high Conceptualisation, or internalise Jamais Vu (you get it in that convo too). Jamais Vu drastically lowers the difficulty.

 

[ScrotumBroth]

Yep, I had that thought early on, which is probably why I passed the check. But it obviously doesn't count without having started the church quest.

 

[Alpan]

Yep, I had that thought early on, which is probably why I passed the check. But it obviously doesn't count without having started the church quest.

No, I had the same issue in my first playthrough, I think there's a bit of a bug with that interaction. You need to have Kim disapprove of the discussion just after passing that check, and then ask him to move aside (another, easier white check, I forgot which skill) so you can discuss the pale in peace, then discuss the pale with Joyce, going through the entire tree. That causes the flags to trigger properly when you get the church quest. Otherwise you get the -10 modifier even if you're knee deep in pale lore.

 

[frajaq]

another curious thing

Spoiler

in the church there is a shivers check that tells you Revachol will be destroyed in 22 years by a nuclear blast

Does anyone have the full text for that moment? I failed that check with a high phys character at like 97% on my run and just rolled with it

it sounds like I missed out huge if its the one moment where Revachol really speaks to you in a huge paranormal way

 

[Alpan]

(1) Yes but man does it cost you.

Are you referring to the detective Cuno path or something else? Always wondered if there were more interactions with Cunoesse in particular.

 

[Ensi]

So the firefight happened before I could ask Joyce about the pale and also tell Evart about shit etc. Am I just screwed when it comes to figuring out the pale and everything else? Feels like the game just got cut in half.

 

[HanoverF]

If you don't have a pre Ruby encounter save, yes.

 

[Ensi]

Laaaaaaaaame. I probably do but I guess I'll just do another playthrough after a while.