Incline Disco Elysium - The Final Cut - a hardboiled cop show isometric RPG

[MRY]

Notable Steam reviews

It's interesting -- it seems like Steam reviews have some kind of critical mass thing going on, because the number of "likes" that my review has accelerated. It suggests that an interesting way to sabotage a game would be to write an unpersuasive but enthusiastically positive review on Day 1, have it upvoted by fanboys until it hits that critical mass, and then watch it sit forever as the most helpful review. Good thing for these guys it's felipepepe's magisterial review that took off instead.

(This problem is even more acute on GOG, which doesn't do anything to promote recent reviews, so once you're the most popular, you are insurmountable. I remember Primordia's superfan explaining that before she posted her review the instant GOG permitted reviews to be posted, and it seems she was right -- no other review comes remotely close (332 vs 111), and once you get past the first page of five reviews, the drop-off is even more dramatic. #1 review = 332 helpful ratings; #6 review = 13.)

Other data-crunching, probably already flagged by someone, but DE is roughly in the ball-park of largest concurrent players of TTON (5.1k vs. 7.3k), which is kind of amazing given the relative market power of the two products.

 

[Prime Junta]

They should do an iOS port as well. The UI would work on a touchscreen almost as-is.

 

[Alpan]

Notable Steam reviews

It's interesting -- it seems like Steam reviews have some kind of critical mass thing going on, because the number of "likes" that my review has accelerated. It suggests that an interesting way to sabotage a game would be to write an unpersuasive but enthusiastically positive review on Day 1, have it upvoted by fanboys until it hits that critical mass, and then watch it sit forever as the most helpful review. Good thing for these guys it's felipepepe's magisterial review that took off instead.

Isn't there a simpler explanation, which is that your (great!) review fulfills the criteria of being <1 week old, and simply got lucky with its initial few likes, leading to a snowball effect as it became gradually more visible and attracted more likes? Like Felipe's review, it'll likewise disappear next week.
I don't think the general Steam user wastes a lot of time changing the default time filter, and those who do are probably looking for something more -- at that point they'd be too cognitively invested to be led astray by grandoise reviews.

 

[Alpan]

... "We think it really is going to lend itself very well to console play because you don’t need to go over minute tactics and use a mouse because it’s very narrative in its nature.”

An interesting claim. Though I don't doubt that the game will sell, I don't think this is a game that lends itself well to (living room) console play at all. Saying that this game "lends well" to consoles seems rather like saying "this game will be playable on consoles" to me. Those two consoles are fundamentally social experiences, and here the game offers nothing.

Disco Elysium is fundamentally a very inward-directed experience, the emphasis on writing demands a very specific form of focused attention, a sense of deep time. There is a console that can provide this, and it's called the Nintendo Switch. Their efforts would be better spent on porting to game to that, IMO.

 

[Prime Junta]

An interesting claim. Though I don't doubt that the game will sell, I don't think this is a game that lends itself well to (living room) console play at all. Saying that this game "lends well" to consoles seems rather like saying "this game will be playable on consoles" to me. Those two consoles are fundamentally social experiences, and here the game offers nothing.

Colleague of mine had bought it and played it for a few hours with a friend last weekend over a few beers. He thought it was tremendous fun, especially the part about laughing and groaning over the dialogue and deciding what to do next. The game doesn’t force a pace on you and lends itself very well to that.

 

[tripedal]

They should do an iOS port as well. The UI would work on a touchscreen almost as-is.

It runs like ass (even worse than the typical Unity game, and that's really saying something), I doubt mobile hardware could handle it.

 

[Mortmal]

Notable Steam reviews

It's interesting -- it seems like Steam reviews have some kind of critical mass thing going on, because the number of "likes" that my review has accelerated. It suggests that an interesting way to sabotage a game would be to write an unpersuasive but enthusiastically positive review on Day 1, have it upvoted by fanboys until it hits that critical mass, and then watch it sit forever as the most helpful review. Good thing for these guys it's felipepepe's magisterial review that took off instead.

(This problem is even more acute on GOG, which doesn't do anything to promote recent reviews, so once you're the most popular, you are insurmountable. I remember Primordia's superfan explaining that before she posted her review the instant GOG permitted reviews to be posted, and it seems she was right -- no other review comes remotely close (332 vs 111), and once you get past the first page of five reviews, the drop-off is even more dramatic. #1 review = 332 helpful ratings; #6 review = 13.)

Other data-crunching, probably already flagged by someone, but DE is roughly in the ball-park of largest concurrent players of TTON (5.1k vs. 7.3k), which is kind of amazing given the relative market power of the two products.

Sounds like an evil mastermind plotting the downfall of competition. But disco is not an adventure game you should not worry about ..oh wait .. it is one.

 

[MRY]

Notable Steam reviews

It's interesting -- it seems like Steam reviews have some kind of critical mass thing going on, because the number of "likes" that my review has accelerated. It suggests that an interesting way to sabotage a game would be to write an unpersuasive but enthusiastically positive review on Day 1, have it upvoted by fanboys until it hits that critical mass, and then watch it sit forever as the most helpful review. Good thing for these guys it's felipepepe's magisterial review that took off instead.

(This problem is even more acute on GOG, which doesn't do anything to promote recent reviews, so once you're the most popular, you are insurmountable. I remember Primordia's superfan explaining that before she posted her review the instant GOG permitted reviews to be posted, and it seems she was right -- no other review comes remotely close (332 vs 111), and once you get past the first page of five reviews, the drop-off is even more dramatic. #1 review = 332 helpful ratings; #6 review = 13.)

Other data-crunching, probably already flagged by someone, but DE is roughly in the ball-park of largest concurrent players of TTON (5.1k vs. 7.3k), which is kind of amazing given the relative market power of the two products.

Sounds like an evil mastermind plotting the downfall of competition. But disco is not an adventure game you should not worry about ..oh wait .. it is one.

Spoiler

 

[Mortmal]

Notable Steam reviews

It's interesting -- it seems like Steam reviews have some kind of critical mass thing going on, because the number of "likes" that my review has accelerated. It suggests that an interesting way to sabotage a game would be to write an unpersuasive but enthusiastically positive review on Day 1, have it upvoted by fanboys until it hits that critical mass, and then watch it sit forever as the most helpful review. Good thing for these guys it's felipepepe's magisterial review that took off instead.

(This problem is even more acute on GOG, which doesn't do anything to promote recent reviews, so once you're the most popular, you are insurmountable. I remember Primordia's superfan explaining that before she posted her review the instant GOG permitted reviews to be posted, and it seems she was right -- no other review comes remotely close (332 vs 111), and once you get past the first page of five reviews, the drop-off is even more dramatic. #1 review = 332 helpful ratings; #6 review = 13.)

Other data-crunching, probably already flagged by someone, but DE is roughly in the ball-park of largest concurrent players of TTON (5.1k vs. 7.3k), which is kind of amazing given the relative market power of the two products.

Sounds like an evil mastermind plotting the downfall of competition. But disco is not an adventure game you should not worry about ..oh wait .. it is one.

Spoiler

Oh shit.. I for one , always said primordia was clearly a far superior adventure game!

 

[TT1]

They should do an iOS port as well. The UI would work on a touchscreen almost as-is.

I would love to play it on the ipad, indeed.

 

[Saduj]

Hey. I'm about to start my first playthrough of DE. I usually do some research and planning before I play any game. I can't decide on what build should go in DE. I was thinking an intelligent/socially intelligent copper, so focusing on INT and PSYCHE I have no idea how to distribute my points.

I got two questions:
1) Should I build in favor of PSY/INT like 4 4 2 2 or should I go full extremes ie 6 4 1 1 or 5 5 1 1. The default builds seem to be pretty "extreme" ie 1 logic 5 psyche or 6 intelligence, 1 psyche etc.
2) Also - is it a good idea to select your signature skill outside of the skills you want to focus? For example is going 4 4 2 2 but signature in perceptiona good idea? I heard it's a very important skill and it'd raise cap for other skills in that tree to 3 , or is it better to pick a signature from a tree that you focus on ie from INT or PSY like logic, rhetorics or suggestion?

I don't think anything is necessarily "better". It all depends on personal preference. I went 4/2/3/3 and tagged Rhetoric. I did appreciate having the flexibility to experience some of the skills I wasn't focusing on and to start putting points into the ones I liked. You don't need to pump a ton of skill points into a few skills in order to feel competent in them. I didn't experience the content for ultra high skill levels so I can't really comment on it.

 

[Abu Antar]

I'm glad I waited with my purchase. Will buy the confirmed PS4 version.

 

[Rev]

They should do an iOS port as well. The UI would work on a touchscreen almost as-is.

It would probably be a lot more playable on a smartphone or tablet than on consoles with a gamepad, that's for sure. Although the lack of a traditional combat system surely helps to make it more playable on consoles as well, compared to the likes of Baldur's Gate, PoE, etc.

 

[Mortmal]

Also would be very fun to vote a phone game as GOTY.

 

[TT1]

Ok, so I just finished the game, in 46h.

Spoiler

It's hard to express in words how beautiful this game is, and how important it has become to me in the last days. It messes with me the same way Torment messed with me, 20 years ago. I clearly remember the day Ravel asked me "What can change the nature of a man?" and, idk... 20 answers popped up on the screen: I took off my glasses, put my hands on my face and for a few minutes I had no idea what to do. I got up from my chair and went for a walk around the neighborhood. This is exactly the feeling I had with Disco Elysium. And again I had to take a walk to calm down and clear my mind.

The writing is absolutely phenomenal and of such a high quality that I do not remember having affected me that way in any game I have ever played. The dialogue with the ex-wife on the island is one of the saddest and most moving things I have ever read in my life (she is pregnant, but it's not yours because she had aborted your child) and anyone who has not been moved by it can be declared dead. In a way this is the same feeling as when I read Daytripper (from Fabio Moon & Gabriel Ba) and couldn't stop crying.

I will play it again, but not now. I don't have stomach for this now. I will wait for expansions, DLC, whatever. Jesus Christ, what a ride.

This game is a work of art.

I need a tattoo. A hug. A drink.

 

[AwesomeButton]

They should do an iOS port as well. The UI would work on a touchscreen almost as-is.

I'm playing it on an Asus Zenbook 14, with a touchscreen, among other laptops. It's still easier to use the keyboard in most cases. But touch for movement is fine.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

I had a 17% chance of making the karaoke drama skill check on my second playthrough...

...and inadvertently succeeded. While wearing an almost-complete set of FALN clothing and the Shades of Self-Destruction.

 

[Prime Junta]

You know what I liked about the karaoke?

Spoiler

They made it sound like karaoke, not like a professional singer. Even though the VA was a professional singer.

 

[axedice]

Sounds like a bug. I don't think it's possible to lose them, and definitely you can't drop them. Could you have pawned them off?

Nah, tools and clothes can not be pawned. I checked the forums, other people have encountered it aswell. If you give Kim the chain cutters during the autopsy, there is a chance that he won't give them back to you. You should reload a previous save and do the autopsy again if it happens but I didn't realize I've lost them at the time, so it's either a quick bugfix (wont happen), inventory edit (is this possible?) or a restart for me

 

[AwesomeButton]

Some spoiler stuff regarding the autopsy and boots:

Spoiler

If discover the hole during the first field autopsy, Kim wants to bag the body and take it in the car immediately. This prevented me from being able to get the boots. Is there a workaround for this. The first time I played we didn't find the hole immediately and we had to store the body in the bear fridge. Then I was able to get the boots by waiting for Kim to go to sleep and sneaking back alone.

 

[FeelTheRads]

"First" field autopsy? I did an autopsy after getting it down from the tree, found the hole and Kim said he should take it to the morgue or something, but I didn't select that. I just had something like "leave for now" or whatever. Then the body was left there and I got back during the night to get the boots. I don't know anything about any storing in the fridge.

Guess we did something different.

 

[AwesomeButton]

"First" field autopsy? I did an autopsy after getting it down from the tree, found the hole and Kim said he should take it to the morgue or something, but I didn't select that. I just had something like "leave for now" or whatever. Then the body was left there and I got back during the night to get the boots. I don't know anything about any storing in the fridge.

Guess we did something different.

You didn't pick the option to bag the body, and just exited the dialogue. In theory you could have continued the autopsy on the next day. If you find the fridge, and also if some other condition is met, I'm not sure what, you can store the body in the fridge.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Well, you didn't have the option to exit the dialogue without bagging it?

 

[Haba]

Ok, so I just finished the game, in 46h.

I need a tattoo. A hug. A drink.

Couple of weeks have passed and the feeling still lingers.

Maybe it is the shiver in my spine that is telling me that this won't happen for a second time in my lifetime.

I had almost forgotten how it feels to genuinely be immersed in a game.

 

[HoboForEternity]

https://www.escapistmagazine.com/v2...s-playstation-4-xbox-one-ports-for-next-year/

it's a great news. i really hope more people play and love this game as much as i do while making ZA/UM as much money as possible.