Incline Disco Elysium - The Final Cut - a hardboiled cop show isometric RPG

[Parabalus]

Well I can confirm the game runs on a toaster (I asked about this a few days ago). Question: I'm taking my sweet time to do stuff, talking with people and so on, I'm halfway the first day and still haven't investigated the corpse, should I worry about getting timed out of things, or can you take your sweet time to do things?

Also, in case I replay this, how important are the experience levels here? I'm finding a lot of EXP by exhausting convo options and I'm not sure I want to read all that again in a second playthrough (doing right now a 4413, my idea for the 2nd time around was a straightfoward physical cop)

You will have way too much XP and time is really lenient.

If you're worried about time explore dungeons at 2:00.

Yes? What does 'doing fine' have to do with minmaxing?

You have to dump something when minmaxing. The reds are of the least use.

Dumping Phys to 1 yes, but if you want to pass every check you'll need some red skills.

 

[fantadomat]

If you get butthurt by my post then you are getting butthurt from all the screenshots with dialogue in them.

And yet you were the only one who spoiled me. Only slightly, that's true, but still. I know I can't force you not to post spoilers, but I am happy that everyone else uses the tags, at least.

For people who expect some harsh and accurate political commentary with particularly black humor or at least commentary as sharp as it goes in real life, I think you will be disappointed.

I didn't, I expected it to be funny. For the most part I was disappointed, and the explicitly political humour was a good step below the rest of it.

Ohhh and what did i spoil for you?


I do agree on the humour,the political one was not that good unless you went full on larping as one ideology.

 

[Strange Fellow]

Ohhh and what did i spoil for you?

Spoiler

That the killer was a man and that you'd get to talk to him. I know it's not much, but it irked me nonetheless.

 

[Shadenuat]

I didn't, I expected it to be funny. For the most part I was disappointed, and the explicitly political humour was a good step below the rest of it.

Yeah I can't say I found a lot of it funny either, maybe chuckled a few times with my own skills talking to me but that's mostly it.

 

[toro]

Game is better with high Psyche and Int. Worse with high Physical and Mot. I've start 2nd playthough and i already missing a lot content (first play was high Psy+Int) while getting less content for current Phys and Motoric.

I disagree. Perception might be the most useful skill in the game and it's linked to Motorics.

 

[†††]

If you're worried about time explore dungeons at 2:00.

Does that mean I could simply choose to not sleep?

 

[Shadenuat]

Perception might be the most useful skill in the game and it's linked to Motorics.

Yes and I feel it's only one there and you can get it fairly high with 1 yellow even.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

For those keeping track of people's game-lengths: I'm in the late A.M. of the fourth day and Steam tells me I've sunk 25 hours in. I'm a completionist and trying to knock out every single quest.

 

[Parabalus]

Game is better with high Psyche and Int. Worse with high Physical and Mot. I've start 2nd playthough and i already missing a lot content (first play was high Psy+Int) while getting less content for current Phys and Motoric.

I disagree. Perception might be the most useful skill in the game and it's linked to Motorics.

You can pump PER to 8 with an early thought even with 1 MOT.

If you're worried about time explore dungeons at 2:00.

Does that mean I could simply choose to not sleep?

Yes.

People leave the streets, shops close, but dungeons are open.

 

[fantadomat]

Ohhh and what did i spoil for you?

Spoiler

That the killer was a man and that you'd get to talk to him. I know it's not much, but it irked me nonetheless.

You can't be serious lol. That is obvious by playing the game for an hour. Your real world perception must be very low to not notice where the things are heading in the game. In the first few hours you should have noticed that the game is not a investigation game but more of a novel. Also all the other investigations are a lot more fun than the main one.

 

[Strange Fellow]

That is obvious by playing the game for an hour.

Spoiler

It's not, the two prime suspects are both women.

In the first few hours you should have noticed that the game is not a investigation game but more of a novel.

I don't like to have crime novels spoiled for me either.

 

[Shadenuat]

People leave the streets, shops close, but dungeons are open.

imagine me, making arrest like pro, finishing difficult finishes, sending partner to finish, and in the darkness of the night I pursue the killer in my cloak, saber from fisher waifu in one hand, flashlight in other, pistol at ready. I pass whole city and through bridge, the cold of a night mixed with silver cold of falling snow. LIKE SEROUSLY LARPING HERE
I pass the difficult checks and my super intuition guides me to exact place, I click the button of awesomeness

and game literally states place is plot-locked for now.

well uh. time to read some comic books I guess??

that moment and gunfight in bronx was where game failed me hard twice and left really bad feeling.

 

[fantadomat]

That is obvious by playing the game for an hour.

Spoiler

It's not, the two prime suspects are both women.

In the first few hours you should have noticed that the game is not a investigation game but more of a novel.

I don't like to have crime novels spoiled for me either.

Ahhhh the fuck are you talking about. By not being an investigation game,it just means that all the clues and info you gathered is useless and it will end up with a stupid twist. I knew where the game was going by the end of the first day,it is obvious lol. I really feel sad if you thought that those two acctually have anything to do with the murder,they are far too poor of a suspects that it is painful. This game ignores anything to do with real criminal investigation and just wants to tell a cool story about a drunk detective. There is no actual finding a motives,alibi or forensic information. You are just moving along and talking about meh shit you have heard,you are not actually asking questions that a detective would ask.

 

[fantadomat]

LOL TwinkieGorilla is still butthurt about my comment related to his table top fetish.

 

[Strange Fellow]

Okay, well I didn't know where the plot was going and I didn't know that those people weren't involved. You must be much smarter than me.

 

[Twiglard]

I don't like to have crime novels spoiled for me either.

Let's discuss it when people had time to play the game. He has a valid point for once. It's bad to

Spoiler

Introduce a character at 11th hour who's actually had done the deed.

 

[Shadenuat]

the story of a drunk detective is cool tho.

if I wanted to be all derpdeep about it, for me politics and murder looked like decorations around the real story of a tormentpain of one's human soul;
or something like that
I am not very deep.

 

[toro]

Prime Junta Let me put it like this. If you need to selectively take away logic from your story to serve tension, pacing or themes then you're doing it wrong. What I would propose is a fundamental reconstruction of this part of the plot, not a band aid, if I would be one to decide. I’m not and won’t be, so I just point out obvious – and indeed in my opinion biggest – flaw.

Spoiler

You know there will be a tribunal and you're under time pressure.

Funny thing. You're not. Tribunal is plotgated, not timegated. Which is also a major flaw.

Popiel Brother you are a beast!

You managed to articulate so many issues I also had with the game ending. Your criticism is spot on.

Kudos.

Prime Junta you cannot be objective about the game.

It's ok. You love the game, I love the game but the devs fucked themselves in the ass.

Once again the promise of a game world with full reactivity was broken. They did much more than other games (I give you that) but all pretense of reactivity was dropped towards the end and no words can change that.

Stop defending this shit the game's ending.

 

[fantadomat]

Okay, well I didn't know where the plot was going and I didn't know that those people weren't involved. You must be much smarter than me.

Don't be a butthurt cynical asshole,it is not smart but experience. I have watched,read and played a lot more shit than you,at this point i just know where shit are heading pretty fast in most entertainment mediums. The trick is to try and discover how the writer is thinking,which is not very hard since most of them think the same way and are not very smart themself. In those things the most unlikely option is usually the one you will get because writers want to twist and surprise the reader/watcher/gamer. It is very simple psychology.

I don't like to have crime novels spoiled for me either.

Let's discuss it when people had time to play the game. He has a valid point for once. It's bad to

Spoiler

Introduce a character at 11th hour who's actually had done the deed.

Yeah it is pretty bad thing to do,that is why i didn't like the main story and enjoyed the side stuff a lot more.

the story of a drunk detective is cool tho.

if I wanted to be all derpdeep about it, for me politics and murder looked like decorations around the real story of a tormentpain of one's human soul;
or something like that
I am not very deep.

Yeah it is pretty fun game and the writing is not bad. Did enjoy the character "growth" in it. Even thinking of making a true bulgar charc with 6 in everything and 20 skill pointz for a start .

 

[Twiglard]

I am not very deep.

The man's nightmares are worse than mine. I genuinely felt bad seeing the one at the end of the game, while I saw the Christchurch video and felt nothing.

Anyway can you get any additional content by being a political wingnut all the time? Some boots literally "level up" your capitalism. Does it give extra thoughts or anything?

Stop defending this shit.

It's not either game of the century or shit. There are levels in-between. /obvious

Yeah it is pretty bad thing to do,that is why i didn't like the main story and enjoyed the side stuff a lot more.

Wish there were more involved side quests, like PS:T. There are a few, but the strongest story is overwhelmingly the main quest.

Except

Spoiler

the pale

mindfuck.

 

[toro]

Stop defending this shit.

It's not either game of the century or shit. There are levels in-between. /obvious

I was referring to the game's ending. I did not say the entire game is shit. /maybe-not-so-obvious

 

[Twiglard]

Even thinking of making a true bulgar charc with 6 in everything and 20 skill pointz for a start

True Bulgars are the ones that jump the border to Poland and set up unlicensed markets here. Pretty chill people, unlike you.

 

[fantadomat]

Wish there were more involved side quests, like PS:T. There are a few, but the strongest story is overwhelmingly the main quest.

I did enjoy all the side shit,it is a shame that they were so few. The game would have been better if there were a few small stories and not one overarching plot story. And the end game explanation of the P is pretty interesting.

 

[fantadomat]

Even thinking of making a true bulgar charc with 6 in everything and 20 skill pointz for a start

True Bulgars are the ones that jump the border to Poland and set up unlicensed markets here. Pretty chill people, unlike you.

I am pretty chill yo. Also if i am going to make money of you i will be twice as chill.

 

[Twiglard]

Wish there were more involved side quests, like PS:T. There are a few, but the strongest story is overwhelmingly the main quest.

I did enjoy all the side shit,it is a shame that they were so few. The game would have been better if there were a few small stories and not one overarching plot story. And the end game explanation of the P is pretty interesting.

The end game explanation? There's an explanation

Spoiler

by the corporate lady

and later

Spoiler

in the fishing village

but I didn't see any endgame explanation?

Even thinking of making a true bulgar charc with 6 in everything and 20 skill pointz for a start

True Bulgars are the ones that jump the border to Poland and set up unlicensed markets here. Pretty chill people, unlike you.

I am pretty chill yo. Also if i am going to make money of you i will be twice as chill.

But then you'd have to come here and sell rags. Until some racist calls the police and you have to bail.