Just reached level 10 and I think I did most of the Cyseal content. Went to fight Braccus and he killed the whole party with a meteor swarm even before I got one action, lol. But I have some ideas for next attempt.
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Divinity Divinity: Original Sin - Enhanced Edition
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just found the origin of this. What a newfag I am: http://www.rpgcodex.net/article.php?id=9391
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Goddamnit David Bisval.
I also made a failed attempt of a couple hours past year, the game has a *very* serious pacing problem in the beginning. You have a total of what, 3 fights, then hours of talking to dozens of people and running around, making equipment and levelup choices that you can't make sense of. Too talky. And it's not badly done, mind you, the quests in Cyseal are good, dialogues are good, but they're too much packed together in the early hours, while between levels 5-9 I've been only fighting and then returning to a ghost town where I had already talked to everyone and done everything.
Compare it to Baldur's Gate pacing, that game had it absolutely nailed. By the time you reach the big town with lots of dialogues and quests (and rewards), you were exactly looking forward to that, after having struggled the early levels through dungeons and wilderness.
In Larian's defense,
I missed the graveyard tunnel which packs a few low-level fights, breezed through them later on.
gaussgunner
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I started a Tactician replay and I'm still trying to get past the Cyseal hump even though I know all the bullshit. Cleared all the secret tunnels, now doing dumb shit like Headless Nick and the Philosophy of Death quiz for XP until I'm level 4-5 and I can venture out without getting instakilled by zombies. STILL finding things I missed the first time though.
Doing one thing right this time, I haven't accused anyone of Jake's murder or murdered anyone myself. Just being nice to everyone and robbing them blind
Doing one thing right this time, I haven't accused anyone of Jake's murder or murdered anyone myself. Just being nice to everyone and robbing them blind
retamar
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Just started the enhanced edition, 5 hours in it.
Played a dozen of hours at release, co op with a friend of mine, it was a mess, and we didn't get really far.
Have not seen any dramatic changes from the original game, but as I stated i barely played on release.
Game is fun, combat is quite good, dialogues and plot are....hummmm, whimsical? so far so good, I am liking it.
Played a dozen of hours at release, co op with a friend of mine, it was a mess, and we didn't get really far.
Have not seen any dramatic changes from the original game, but as I stated i barely played on release.
Game is fun, combat is quite good, dialogues and plot are....hummmm, whimsical? so far so good, I am liking it.
Due to heavy work I haven't played as much as I would like it, but I advanced in my first run (Tactician Mode) to around level 13 and after exploring completely cyseal and doing all quests and secrets there (or so I think), I did some stuff in Silverglen.
Some thoughts. Combat begins feeling a bit easier once you have 2-3 party members that can reliably use crowd control almost every turn. Charm, Freezing and Stun, plus a few others, will finally make you feel in control of the fights. I hope it gets harder soon, because the challege has been so far the biggest "pro" I've found in the game.
It is great that you can talk out of fights in certain situations; but when you do, you get no reward for it. It makes me pick fights on purpose, so I don't miss the XP and loot.
The dialogues and quests in silverglen are... okay I guess. But after all the sidequesting in cyseal most of it feels redundant.
All of this put within a context of me still loving the game. But this is the codex so I feel compelled to talk about the bad things only.
Some thoughts. Combat begins feeling a bit easier once you have 2-3 party members that can reliably use crowd control almost every turn. Charm, Freezing and Stun, plus a few others, will finally make you feel in control of the fights. I hope it gets harder soon, because the challege has been so far the biggest "pro" I've found in the game.
It is great that you can talk out of fights in certain situations; but when you do, you get no reward for it. It makes me pick fights on purpose, so I don't miss the XP and loot.
The dialogues and quests in silverglen are... okay I guess. But after all the sidequesting in cyseal most of it feels redundant.
All of this put within a context of me still loving the game. But this is the codex so I feel compelled to talk about the bad things only.
On tactician too? a pity.
vmar
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I've done 2 full playthroughs, one on classic and one tactician, and yea tactician isn't nearly as hard as I was hoping it would be. I honestly had an easier time with it due to meta game knowledge/better built parties than I did in my first run on classic. The only time I felt like I was in real danger was the first couple fights, after that it was pretty much a steamroll. Hell I was killing the level 8 enemies by the church in Cyseal at level 4 just to try to challenge myself. Tactician is more fun than classic but I'd like it if there were something harder than that, not counting honor mode because playing ironman in an rpg this long doesn't appeal to me.
Despite all that I can't stop playing the fucking game, the combat is just a blast. Easily one of my favorite rpgs from the last decade. Working on a 2x lone wolf run right now which has been a little more challenging, although still not as hard as I was expecting.
Despite all that I can't stop playing the fucking game, the combat is just a blast. Easily one of my favorite rpgs from the last decade. Working on a 2x lone wolf run right now which has been a little more challenging, although still not as hard as I was expecting.
but i'm not sure if it counts as challenge..
retamar
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Well, a few more hours in, I am still in Cyseal, having a blast. I feel like I am constantly underleveled, that fucking machine in the caves up north, is a really really tough fight. I tend to be underleveled on games because I do not play many sidequest, tend to hate the FedEx missions.
Well, I hope it gets a tad easier because a this moment I am really struggling on every fight.
do you have the remote to disable the robot's cannon?
retamar
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Yeah I got it, but at my current level I have not enough HP to resist the combat, I am little bit stuck right now, Can't win any fight on the beach ( I sneaked trough the cave and got the portal) trying to find some shit to do at Syceal, in order to get some extra XP.
retamar
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Already cleared that area.
lx07
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If you have walk in shadows you can skip Cyseal though and go straight to Silverglen or even Hunters Edge and Sacred Stone if you want. Bit too cheap that skill I think. You can't immediately get to Hiberhelm and so Phantom forest or at least I can't see how.
I agree with your point but there is no need to bore yourself going through all the Cyseal stuff if you don't want to.
Lacrymas
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That isn't a problem I, as a player, should be fixing by exploiting game mechanics. I know I don't have to talk to almost anyone in Cyseal even if playing normally, that doesn't fix the dialogues or intended pacing, not to mention me being underleveled if I skip it. The game has many more problems than pacing and terrible dialogues though and even if I manage to force myself through Cyseal, or skip it, they'll constantly be nibbling at my feet, the cons severely outnumber and overwhelm the pros. D:OS1 would be a great game if other, better, games didn't exist and I couldn't spend time with them instead, which ultimately damns it irrevocably. That doesn't mean D:OS isn't the best RPG to have come out of the Kickstarter campaigns then (PoE, Shadowrun, WL2 etc.), but that's a shallow comfort.
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