Incline Dominions 6

[Johannes]

Yes.



And I'll keep dumping misfortune, you'll have bad events happen regardless.

 

[Isiloon]

so will yall sign up to my next 80-man game that's the question, also Johannes are you the same dude with the same pfp on pp13?

 

[Johannes]

so will yall sign up to my next 80-man game that's the question, also Johannes are you the same dude with the same pfp on pp13?

what does that mean

 

[coldcrow]

I want to debate the Heroism bless. In my opinion it is a really strong bless, bordering on OP for nations with good sacreds and readily available sacred mages. Assuming Heroism 4-5 If you fight the easy indies first you will get the first 2 stars after 2-3 battles which makes it better than the alternative (AS,DS etc). Your thugs and SCs will dominate the HoF. It also benefits your research corps.
So compared to: Attack,Defense skill, Precision etc it is much better as it does all. The only downside is the delay before the benefits kick in. Whats your opinion, considering other MP games?

 

[Malakal]

I want to debate the Heroism bless. In my opinion it is a really strong bless, bordering on OP for nations with good sacreds and readily available sacred mages. Assuming Heroism 4-5 If you fight the easy indies first you will get the first 2 stars after 2-3 battles which makes it better than the alternative (AS,DS etc). Your thugs and SCs will dominate the HoF. It also benefits your research corps.
So compared to: Attack,Defense skill, Precision etc it is much better as it does all. The only downside is the delay before the benefits kick in. Whats your opinion, considering other MP games?

Commanders easily get the 1-2 stars without any bless, mages by sitting in labs, XP scaling and effects make it not worth it IMO. Did some testing and heroism just buys you a few turns advantage.

Getting the first stars is easy and further stars are less worth it.

 

[coldcrow]

But commanders have consistently 1-2 stars more than without it during early/midgame. Which is the most important part of the game. As a non-incarnate bless it seems very strong as it bascially gives the combined benefits of AS/DS/Prec/magic scale for a long time.

 

[Malakal]

But commanders have consistently 1-2 stars more than without it during early/midgame. Which is the most important part of the game. As a non-incarnate bless it seems very strong as it bascially gives the combined benefits of AS/DS/Prec/magic scale for a long time.

If your commanders are meant to fight they will quickly amass the 3 stars or so. If they are not its useless for them only providing some RP.

I prefer a targeted bless. Also Glamour sucks dick as a magic path.

 

[Johannes]

After 2-3 battles you will have 1 star (15xp) anyway even without heroism. So getting 2 stars in that time, it's +1/1 more. For 4-5 points that's similar increase to what you'd get by investing in def or att, but depends on the timing whether you have such bonus or not. And you won't get more than +1/1 ever due to how xp levels scale. But getting the other bonuses from xp besides def/att is nice, too.

It's ok if you got leftover points, but nothing spectacular. Maybe better than straight att/def, but I wouldn't rate those very highly.

 

[Trash Player]

Put it this way: Heroism may be the best among the stat bonuses, but those are not impressive right now.
Dom 6 nerfs rainbow a lot and G isn't a particularly powerful path, bar a couple of options.

 

[Malakal]

Put it this way: Heroism may be the best among the stat bonuses, but those are not impressive right now.
Dom 6 nerfs rainbow a lot and G isn't a particularly powerful path, bar a couple of options.

What options do you have in mind? Only good thing is fae summons that are great but expensive and maybe legions demise but that's thaum 9 and very theoretical spell.

 

[Trash Player]

Wailing Winds, Vengeance of the Dead, Charm, awe and luck effects are G now. New and old stealth granting items. Harmonica. Ring of the False Prophet, a non-artefact H booster. Legion's Demise is game defining from my understanding. Bypass BV/Regen. No army wide counter. Maybe Aurora Borealis. Doesn't look that strong but another disruptive battlefield spell doesn't hurt. Lore of Legends, very very niche but useful when it matters.

 

[Malakal]

Actually I now remembered that Simulacurum could be a viable strat for a non immortal super caster pretender.

Charm I guess since not much else to cast, WW is obviously nice but thats crosspath, awe and luck are nice but I want something that kills enemies or at least disables them.

All things considered very niche.

 

[Andnjord]

You’ve also got that battle summon spell, 20(+5) ethereal illusions for one gem, good against armies that don’t have magic weapons.

 

[Johannes]

Ephemeral blast is a good evo.

 

[Tanaka]

I want to debate the Heroism bless. In my opinion it is a really strong bless, bordering on OP for nations with good sacreds and readily available sacred mages. Assuming Heroism 4-5 If you fight the easy indies first you will get the first 2 stars after 2-3 battles which makes it better than the alternative (AS,DS etc). Your thugs and SCs will dominate the HoF. It also benefits your research corps.
So compared to: Attack,Defense skill, Precision etc it is much better as it does all. The only downside is the delay before the benefits kick in. Whats your opinion, considering other MP games?

I agree I think it should be 25% not 35%...

 

[Hag]

There is something weird on the map of the latest codex game : provinces separated with water but with direct land connections :

Is is a bug or a feature ?

 

[Johannes]

Bug? Feature? This is Illwinter.

 

[covr]

I've never played any Ilwinter game - what's the difference between dominions and conquest of elysium? Also, what is actually core feature of Dom6? Is it like civilization/fall from heaven? Or total war games?

 

[Beastro]

I've never played any Ilwinter game - what's the difference between dominions and conquest of elysium? Also, what is actually core feature of Dom6? Is it like civilization/fall from heaven? Or total war games?

CoE is just factions and has nothing like Pretenders and their complexity in it.

It's a simpler game without MP and as a result, you can't really enjoy the fullness of it due to the AI.

 

[Tanaka]

I've never played any Ilwinter game - what's the difference between dominions and conquest of elysium? Also, what is actually core feature of Dom6? Is it like civilization/fall from heaven? Or total war games?

CoE is just factions and has nothing like Pretenders and their complexity in it.

It's a simpler game without MP and as a result, you can't really enjoy the fullness of it due to the AI.

COE does have MP but you have to sit down and play it in one sitting no one plays it per turn with breaks unfortunately so rarely are games continued after the sitting. You can find MP games here: https://discord.com/channels/221298002260656128/284731334495305730

 

[Dayyālu]

Btw, starting the fourth game. I'd like a modded game for once, but vote, join and let your voice be heard.

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/professionalthronesitters-iv-new-choices-edition.151479/

 

[Hag]

What's the opinion of the veteran MP crowd on the early game rebalance ? I've found that all three codex games were taking a lot of time to unravel, last two reaching turn 60 or more without a clear winner. How does it compare to previous versions ?

 

[Malakal]

What's the opinion of the veteran MP crowd on the early game rebalance ? I've found that all three codex games were taking a lot of time to unravel, last two reaching turn 60 or more without a clear winner. How does it compare to previous versions ?

Expansion phase is harder and longer, forts now take longer to build too, thats extra turns for the game right at the start.

Combat and magic was reworked so its harder to achieve absolute victories, even superior nation will take losses and fighting off several enemies becomes way more difficult. Harder to get away with the game.

Finally late game options were heavily nerfed, tartarians, blood, level 9 spells in general.

So yea, overall games should take longer.

 

[Tanaka]

What's the opinion of the veteran MP crowd on the early game rebalance ? I've found that all three codex games were taking a lot of time to unravel, last two reaching turn 60 or more without a clear winner. How does it compare to previous versions ?

Expansion phase is harder and longer, forts now take longer to build too, thats extra turns for the game right at the start.

Combat and magic was reworked so its harder to achieve absolute victories, even superior nation will take losses and fighting off several enemies becomes way more difficult. Harder to get away with the game.

Finally late game options were heavily nerfed, tartarians, blood, level 9 spells in general.

So yea, overall games should take longer.

Yeah I love the new changes myself. This is my favorite version of Dom.

 

[Dayyālu]

Let's get a new game going for January, brethrens. Remember to vote for Age.

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/professionalthronesitters-v-4th-edition-never-happened.152117/