Dragon Age: Inquisition Pre-Release Thread

[Space Satan]

Imagine someone at Biowhore dev team posted something like this. There would be an outrage, petitions, boycots, manchildren tears and EA would force entire studio to make a penance pilgrimage to the local fag holy site.

 

[Lemming42]

local fag holy site.

gaider's house

 

[DalekFlay]

I'm going to ignore you and I'm not going to lie about it. After I see the screens at high details . If you're going to waste your time, at least do something valuable to society and make a LP.

I might not play it day one because my PC needs an upgrade and it might not be finished by then. I'm sure you'll have PLENTY of Codexers to choose from however. Most talk a good game and then put 100 hours in anyway.

 

[Stainless Veteran]

Eh, I'll probably pirate that shit, just to seed it so more people could download it for free. And I usually don't pirate games anymore, thanks to Gabe and russian steam prices, and also to GOG and my huge backlog of unplayed oldies there. But this fucking game I'll pirate as a matter of principle. As for playing it - I'll probably try it, I'm morbidly curious if they could make anything worse than DA2.
And to think, back when it just came out I kinda liked DA:O.

 

[Excidium]

I'll play it because fem qunari look hot

 

[Borelli]

Will torrent it. When exactly depends on Codex's early impressions of it.

 

[Azalin]

Orcs riding on rockets and dual wielding flame axes sounds fantastic falling from sky enemy.
Naturally axes will have FIRE BEAM attack and they can use them 3 times per encounter.

 

[Morgoth]

The superfluous amount of information and opinions will be enough to kill off any interest for this game within release day.

Thanks, Internet.

 

[Utgard-Loki]

You're not edgy enough.

yeah, how could i not like this amazing game that takes place in this beautiful run of the mill fantasy setting that makes no sense. with lovable characters such as minsc, the mentally handicapped ranger and viconia the EVUL rape victim drow cleric of an EVUL GAWDESS of EVUL. the amazing encounter design™ where half the monster manual is present in almost every dungeon and occasionally you meet a wizard or cleric. the great rtwp combat that encourages precise maneuvering smart use of abilities and rationing of items(just block a door with your fighter, let archers and wizards do their pewpew and then let the cleric heal people in case of unlucky rolls. fuck me if that's not tacticoolio what is?).

baldurs gate 2 might not be a completely bad game (like for example everything else bioware shat out after it), but it certainly is not a great, or even good, one.

 

[Rake]

yeah, how could i not like this amazing game that takes place in this beautiful run of the mill fantasy setting that makes no sense.

Forgotten Realms isn't the best setting ever, but it's not ground to bash the game unless you dismiss every game set there or in similar generic settings, including Gold Box games, ToEE, Divinities, MotB.

with lovable characters such as minsc, the mentally handicapped ranger and viconia the EVUL rape victim drow cleric of an EVUL GAWDESS of EVUL.

Well, yes the character's are Biowarian in vein , but better than their recent offerings. Most of them aren't bad, and even if you dislike all of them, in BG they were mostly just stat screens.

the amazing encounter design™ where half the monster manual is present in almost every dungeon and occasionally you meet a wizard or cleric.

You are more mentally handicapped than Minsc. BG2 had the best encounter design from every RPG out there. It was one of the strongest parts of the game.

the great rtwp combat that encourages precise maneuvering smart use of abilities and rationing of items(just block a door with your fighter, let archers and wizards do their pewpew and then let the cleric heal people in case of unlucky rolls. fuck me if that's not tacticoolio what is?).

Well, you had more choices and abilities in combat than Gold Box games, Fallout games and Ultima games. And because BG2 had the aforementioned great encounter design, it's better than ToEE, despite the second having better combat system, wasted to kill bugbear after bugbear. With SCS, BG2 have one of the best combat in RPGs

 

[Excidium]

the amazing encounter design™ where half the monster manual is present in almost every dungeon

 

[abnaxus]

Viconia was no rape victim, she did the raping.

 

[Jools]

I'm not even going to steal this. That bandwidth could be better used for porn that doesn't preach to me.

What? You don't like pr0n with morulz?

 

[DalekFlay]

Forgotten Realms isn't the best setting ever, but it's not ground to bash the game unless you dismiss every game set there or in similar generic settings, including Gold Box games, ToEE, Divinities, MotB.

Yeah.

And honestly if you hate traditional fantasy settings then you're a pretty fucked RPG player, because 90% of RPGs use that setting.

 

[Commissar Draco]

Viconia was no rape victim, she did the raping.

Wymyn is raepe victim even while doin' the rapeing cause male patriarchy forces her to raape; check yo privilege you cis scum; compared to latter offering BG2 romances are OK; they happen over time, are not telegraphed and can be ended by taking the wrong choice easily... or your wifu being perma snuffed by your party members; just imagine the of modern Biodrones if Pirate Slut or Pedo Phantasy were choked by Avelline or Bro Dwarf in dark alley while main character takes piss.

 

[set]

Uh, I don't know about you, but BG2 has some of the best encounter design around. There were no Ithilids in what's her face's Keep and there weren't any trolls in the prison where they kept Imoen. I think some recycling can be forgiven, considering a BG2 run from beginning to end that doesn't abuse glitches and is earnest in the player's pursuits to explore every nook and cranny... takes what -- a month of playtime? I'd be hard pressed to beat BG2, knowing all the things I know about it, in under several weeks, unless I were deliberately rushing through all the dialogue and skipping shit everywhere. BG2 is perhaps the longest 'modern' and 'mainstream' RPG I can think of. And you can't make players fight monocultures of enemies... so inevitably, there is going to be some reuse.

BG2 nevertheless is ten times more competently designed, encounter-wise, than any BioWare RPG of recent memory. DA3 will be just as poorly paced and designed as DA2 and DA:O, with cramped hallways for encounter areas, enemy melee/archer enemies with no notable abilities to be worried about, and WoW-ish bosses against dragons and liches. Will DA3 have an enemy lich that can stop time and rape your face? I think not. Will DA3 have melee enemies which can kill your beefiest tank in two hits? No way in hell! Will there be any memorable abilities or encounters in DA3? Nope. Who was Kangaxx in DA:O? He didn't have any memorable shit to worry about. Will there even be a 'secret boss' in DA3 a lowbie party can encounter? By the gods, no! BioWare is selling this game to people who enjoy antigames, not the "core".

I'm shocked by how Divinity OS is. I mean, the whole weather/environment design is perfect. A lot of enemy encounters are memorable just by how you can blow them all up with oil barrels or shock/freeze them in place (or how you have to deal with these things being placed around your party). DA:O tried to do this with a few random oil slicks hard-coded here and there... DOS has the balls to do it everywhere, to even make you use this stuff to survive. It also gives you multiple avenues to approach enemies from, severla times I found alrenate routes to reaching them because attacking them head-on put my party in a bad position. There's no such thing ever happenin in DAO or DA2 and I bet you a free copy of DA3 it won't occur in DA3 either. Because BioWare is terrible at designing everything.

 

[Infinitron]

There's actually a homage to Kangaxx in DA:O: http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Gaxkang

 

[Volourn]

"Will DA3 have melee enemies which can kill your beefiest tank in two hits?"

Not one BG2 melee enemy does. Not even the dragons.

Why are both the anti and pro BG2 sides lying in this thread? Oh eyah, it's the fukkin' Codex. Of course they lie. Can't have an HONEST debate. got to make shit up.

 

[Rake]

"Will DA3 have melee enemies which can kill your beefiest tank in two hits?"

Not one BG2 melee enemy does. Not even the dragons.

Illithids...

 

[Volourn]

L0L That's a good one. But, unless your 'beefiest tank' has an IQ of a gnat it'll take more than 2 hits. Though, I'm sure he meant pure raw damage or else he'd have just said illithuids. After a cleric with harm could kill a tank in 2 hits too. Proves nothing.

 

[hoverdog]

yeah, how could i not like this amazing game that takes place in this beautiful run of the mill fantasy setting that makes no sense. with lovable characters such as minsc, the mentally handicapped ranger and viconia the EVUL rape victim drow cleric of an EVUL GAWDESS of EVUL. the amazing encounter design™ where half the monster manual is present in almost every dungeon and occasionally you meet a wizard or cleric. the great rtwp combat that encourages precise maneuvering smart use of abilities and rationing of items(just block a door with your fighter, let archers and wizards do their pewpew and then let the cleric heal people in case of unlucky rolls. fuck me if that's not tacticoolio what is?).

baldurs gate 2 might not be a completely bad game (like for example everything else bioware shat out after it), but it certainly is not a great, or even good, one.

 

[Goat Vomit]

EDGY

I dunno, he makes some good points. I think it all depends on what you judge the games in relation to. If you're used to swimming in a river of shit and find a dirty but relatively clean lagoon you will enjoy it so much more than someone who hopes for crystal clear water to bathe in. I'm not saying that swimming in a river of shit makes you a bad person or anything especially if you have no options, I'm not bigoted against indians after all, what I am saying is that it's okay to wish for more than that. There's little that's edgy about it.

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

yeah, how could i not like this amazing game that takes place in this beautiful run of the mill fantasy setting that makes no sense. with lovable characters such as minsc, the mentally handicapped ranger and viconia the EVUL rape victim drow cleric of an EVUL GAWDESS of EVUL. the amazing encounter design™ where half the monster manual is present in almost every dungeon and occasionally you meet a wizard or cleric. the great rtwp combat that encourages precise maneuvering smart use of abilities and rationing of items(just block a door with your fighter, let archers and wizards do their pewpew and then let the cleric heal people in case of unlucky rolls. fuck me if that's not tacticoolio what is?).

baldurs gate 2 might not be a completely bad game (like for example everything else bioware shat out after it), but it certainly is not a great, or even good, one.

So close. Keep trying.

 

[set]

There's actually a homage to Kangaxx in DA:O: http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Gaxkang

Yeah, that's what I was talking about. I don't even remember that fight, other than it being dumb on nightmare -- he had a ton of HP and it was just unmemorable. Does he even stop time? He might, but I can't honestly recall.

 

[set]

L0L That's a good one. But, unless your 'beefiest tank' has an IQ of a gnat it'll take more than 2 hits. Though, I'm sure he meant pure raw damage or else he'd have just said illithuids. After a cleric with harm could kill a tank in 2 hits too. Proves nothing.

I dunno Volourn, Minsc is my beefiest tank in BG2 usually and he always dies in 2 hits.

Ithilids are particular challenging when those chaos/fear (forget their names, it's been so long) enemies are paired up with them -- they scatter your party if you don't position right/resist the fear, and then the Ithilids isolate your melee and you get owned.

Why would you get any intelligence on a fighter anyway? C'mon, this is D&D. Two hits. It's an interesting challenge, you have to pull back your front line after they take the first hit. There are probably better solutions, I know I abused door closing to separate Ithilid packs (can't do this in DA either, BioWare actively forbids you from even fleeing from encounters, or even initiating many of them with a large range gap; forget "closing doors" my god it's a notable thing if the encounter isn't scripted to spawn in your face when you trip an invisible wire).

What's reall nice about BG2 is there are ways to beat these enemies, and shit like Beholders -- pepole know the strategies thoroughly by now and if you start discussing BG2 I think some people take it for granted what these strategies are. In DAO, no one talks about "that tactic they used to defeat X", because who had trouble with the werewolf boss? What abilities did he even have again...? Oh wait, it was a she, wasn't it? Gee. The only memorable boss in DAO was that fat bitch and only because it was a fight which tested your endurance. That encounter was probably the best one in DAO, too bad everything leading up to it is bland boring shit. As for DA2, or hell, ME1-3, I can't name a memorable boss or encounter that tested my tactical use of skills. Even on the hardest difficulty, everything is pretty straight forward. Get it? Even the levels themselves are -- straight forward --. Not that BG2 didn't have its share of hallways, but there are many places where it did not.