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Depends on how many iterations they went through, no?
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Depends on how many iterations they went through, no?
PunchYouInTheFace
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It's not entirely accurate. Not to say that it's not representative because it's fair to say that the gameplay reveal was mixed.Gameplay video is almost at a 100k dislikes
YouTube's Return of Dislike estimation actually have 20-40% margin of error. It's an estimation. Not the actual numbers.
Cael
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Oh. My. Lord... Please tell me you are not this retarded...
Reinhardt
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last time it happened in nwn
This does not address the ROI issue.
Anthem spent 7 years in development. It had over 200 devs working on it.
Considering average annual salary (with both junior and senior devs, and bonuses)
They could've spent as much as 120-140 mln on it. And that does not include marketing. Which seemed to be pretty extensive with live action trailers, advertisements being everywhere etc.
It sold 3mln copies on release, and the other 2mln came later.
And you can't really count as 60 dollars x 3 mln because there is a retailer cut, publisher cut, developer cut etc.
Even if the copy is sold digitally, EA and Bioware still needs to split the money. But EA is the one financing most of the game's development.
So EA expecting the game to move plenty of copies when they spent so much money on it is not that surprising. The game probably (after cost) made a modest amount of money, which isn't something EA wants to report to the investors.
c'mon, DAO was a bad game, but Liliana and Morrigan were attractive.
Reinhardt
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not really. moving from drawn portraits to disgusting 3d pigs was a mistake.
BruceVC
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Viconia? Thats Bioware isnt it so that includes BG1&2
Grampy_Bone
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Except DA2 wasn't about this. It was about freeing the poor helpless
This is classic propaganda. It pretends you're making a decision as it forces you automatically to the 'correct' outcome. You can debate whether it was okay or not after the fact but there's no option to actually prevent the freeing of the dangerous people. DA:O meanwhile allows you to side freely against any faction, fuck the kingdom for the usurper, kill all the mages, slaughter elves for werewolf foot solders, and profane the ashes of psuedo-Christ just for a new class specialization.
The Jester
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DA2 tries hard to make the Mages look like the good guys but utterly fails because they break their "No blood magic" rule at the drop of a hat.
Kaivokz
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Not sure if anyone has addressed this yet, but that’s a Mass Effect style ability menu that pauses the game: it isn’t the general UI you have while playing.Do these people even try to play their games?Looks like some mobile chinese shit you can grab on google play store.
I look at this screen and cannot even imagine how it can be played. How can we get UI worse than some Amiga UI from 30 years ago.
I think DA4 will suck, but this thread is a circlejerk of people quickly approaching the retardation of the average DA lover.
Oh, don't get me wrong, they probably did spend a fortune on this thing particularly at the end when they were throwing everything they could at it to get it out the door but I would consider "flopping hard" as losing a lot of money. I don't even think it lost money, it just didn't come close to the expectations that EA had for the game.
Dishonoredbr
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I thought was pretty obvious, that's why i didn't mentioned anything, the combat is now ME Andromeda but in Dragon Age form. But still not great, considering we went from having as many abilities slots as we want to a limited 8 slots in Inquisition and now we only have 3 and lost direct control over companions. I guess you could argue that we have 9 abilites (PC + companions) plus a few combos.
More praise from PC Gamer 
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https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/d...ally-out-of-touch-ea-and-bioware-have-become/
:https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/d...ally-out-of-touch-ea-and-bioware-have-become/
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They definitely don't like it: https://www.pcgamer.com/games/dragon-age/larian-already-made-the-dragon-age-4-i-was-hoping-for/
Swen
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IDK what you goys complaining that its noooot truuuu Dragon Age are on about. It is THE expected sequel.
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Lacrymas
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No, he's an adult and we met half a year ago when he came to sing in my choir.
Grampy_Bone
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I am about 90% sure this is an up-jumped mobile game. Those generic as hell 'spooky skeletons' look like the same crap from every shitty Chinese gacha trash. Gameplay consists of running in a straight line and engaging a few monsters without even basic exploration or interaction. Game structure is said to be 'mission based' like a mobile game.
I'm sure at some point in development EA said to turn it into a mobile game. But it took too long and now EA feels like that gold rush has passed so they allowed them to rework it into a PC game. still, you can't wash off the stink. Explains why the game looks so simple and cartoonish, the basic bitch attack spam, the Chinese knockoff Varric, etc.
That's my assumption and I'm sticking with it until disproven.
I'm sure at some point in development EA said to turn it into a mobile game. But it took too long and now EA feels like that gold rush has passed so they allowed them to rework it into a PC game. still, you can't wash off the stink. Explains why the game looks so simple and cartoonish, the basic bitch attack spam, the Chinese knockoff Varric, etc.
That's my assumption and I'm sticking with it until disproven.
Lacrymas
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It's just a symptom of being redone from scratch 3 times. It's a linear corridor and mission-based action game because that's the easiest/fastest to develop. I wouldn't be surprised if they already had the shell of such a game and just retooled it to be a Dragon Age one to save even more time/money. That would explain why none of the iconography even vaguely resembles Dragon Age.
Drakortha
Liturgist
And therefore, Larian didn't make the Baldur's Gate 3 we were hoping for.
Checkmate.
Well, Dragon Age: Origins was already Baldur's Gate 3, so we've come full circle.
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