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Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

La vie sexuelle

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If I play a cleric, I need a knight for defense and a mage to cast offensive spells.
nigga u wot. if you play cleric you ARE a knight for defense AND a mage to cast offensive spells.

Likewise, when you play as a barbarian, you have a +2 bonus to AC when you beat your wife, but we are talking about team play here.
 

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If I play a cleric, I need a knight for defense and a mage to cast offensive spells.
nigga u wot. if you play cleric you ARE a knight for defense AND a mage to cast offensive spells.

Likewise, when you play as a barbarian, you have a +2 bonus to AC when you beat your wife, but we are talking about team play here.
cleric is the most universal class who don't need no fucking team.
 

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If I play a cleric, I need a knight for defense and a mage to cast offensive spells.
nigga u wot. if you play cleric you ARE a knight for defense AND a mage to cast offensive spells.

Likewise, when you play as a barbarian, you have a +2 bonus to AC when you beat your wife, but we are talking about team play here.
cleric is the most universal class who don't need no fucking team.

It all depends on what game you play. If you can play solo a game designed for a team, it means that its gameplay mechanics are poorly designed (for example, because it belongs to the D&D product line).
 

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Dragon Age just seems to veer so rapidly and trend-whore so bad I wouldn't be surprised if the next entry is a Genshin clone, and it certainly gives the impression that their "lore" are messy attempts at duct-taping it all together.
That sums it up. Even Origins went through multiple identity crises because they wanted to chase trends and couldn't decide what to do. It was originally an Asian fantasy then WoW got popular and it became a WoW game then Warhammer got popular and it became a Warhammercraft game.

It never had an identity and has never known what it wants to be.
 

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It was originally an Asian fantasy
where did you read that? that sounds like a tall tale
Mix of old interviews and the E3 2004 footage where it looks like a cross of Jade Empire and Conan. The concept art's also got a very different aesthetic.
dragon-age-origins-e3-2004-demo-v0-byuzwa02xt4d1.jpeg
 

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It was originally an Asian fantasy
where did you read that? that sounds like a tall tale
Mix of old interviews and the E3 2004 footage where it looks like a cross of Jade Empire and Conan. The concept art's also got a very different aesthetic.
dragon-age-origins-e3-2004-demo-v0-byuzwa02xt4d1.jpeg
huh I never knew that. that could explain why they made Jade Empire. someone over there had a real hard on for ancient china
 

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iirc they listed game of thrones as inspiration right from the start, even when dragon age was looking like nwn module.
 
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It was originally an Asian fantasy
where did you read that? that sounds like a tall tale
Mix of old interviews and the E3 2004 footage where it looks like a cross of Jade Empire and Conan. The concept art's also got a very different aesthetic.
dragon-age-origins-e3-2004-demo-v0-byuzwa02xt4d1.jpeg
huh I never knew that. that could explain why they made Jade Empire. someone over there had a real hard on for ancient china
Bioware admitted they wanted to cash in on the brief wuxia madness of the early 00s, but other than the hype for a handful of movies (I can only think of 3), nothing happened beyond that.
 

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casters are ghey and wear dresses. if i wanted to play as woman i would chose chainmail bikini babe or tight leather-clad rogue.
Trope and nothing else. Propaganda. Mages can alter reality and make warriors or clerics kill themselves. They are power incarnate.
 

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casters are ghey and wear dresses. if i wanted to play as woman i would chose chainmail bikini babe or tight leather-clad rogue.
Trope and nothing else. Propaganda. Mages can alter reality and make warriors or clerics kill themselves. They are power incarnate.
victor changed name again?
hey, what do you think about manlets and finger of death? just to be sure.
 

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Grey Wardens were clearly based on the Night's Watch in GoT. At least it was something.

The Darkspawn were gnarly though. Born from the deepest nightmares, propagating endlessly by dragging women captives underground, barfing in their mouths and raping them until they turn into giant monstrosities, birthing hundreds of spawn like engorged ticks. That's just going on everywhere, all the time, waiting for a demon-dragon to awaken and lead them to the surface and exterminate all life. The first game said there were seven(?) dragons, and the game involved the fifth so there were two more. Their appearance had accelerated so the writers clearly meant for that to build to an apocalyptic showdown.

Gaider threw that all away because modern writers don't like 'evil monster races.' That's racist. So he wrote a boring story about evil religion and made mages an allegory for gay rights. The Grey Wardens present an interesting dilemma, how to get disparate factions to settle their BS to fight the end of the world? Do you allow werewolves to slaughter elves because you think they'll make better shock troops? The Veilguard have no choices to make. They just fight the evil white guys.

DA2 made you an observer to the story rather than a participant. DA1 really let you make some interesting choices, in the second and third game everything important is out of your hands. You can't stop Anders from blowing up ersatz-Christianity, and the demon invasion in Inquisition is meaningless. Someone must have told Gaider he had to have an actual villain in that game so of course he picks an evil white guy. The Darkspawn were a reminder of man's folly, the demons are just pawns of a bad guy. Gaider also ditched the monotheistic savior religion and replaced it with boring, standard fantasy gods.

A faceless evil consuming the world isn't great for conversations, but like zombies and post-apoc fiction the point is to create situations where the social order is upended and then explore the possibilities this creates. The darkspawn were also impossible to rehabilitate and modern writers love giving villains sympathetic stories.
 

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