Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[damager]

The uniques laying around are a nice touch. I prefer that to some C&C from bad nu-bioware writers carrying over for sure.

 

[Nano]

Man, it bums me out to think there won't be any cool closure for Loghain if you kept him around considering the games gave you 3 different times to take him out with each one involving some measure of sacrifice (losing Alistair at the Landsmeet, Morrigan's ritual, leaving Hawke in the Fade). With no import he'll be stuck in the fridge like the Warden and all the other characters with uncertain fates.

Why do you want these people to actually write any material for characters like Loghain and the Warden? These writers are maliciously incompetent. Anything they touch they destroy.

 

[Fargus]

Main reason to import is for the attribute increases that you can get during the first game tbh.

Only downside is you will get to play as the same class over and over. Usually not a problem for me because i play as a fighter and second game lacks decent fighters other than psycho midget.

 

[AwesomeButton]

the idea of decisions carrying over between games originated with the Baldur's Gate saga

did it really? I never noticed, but then again, I haven't played those games in 20 years. I just remember Jahira's husband was dead at the start.

You're right actually. There was no NPC-related stuff in terms of who would be alive and who wouldn't, but you could import your character from BG, although the inventory wasn't carried over. Imoen had this line in the beginning about how Irenicus has sold your best equipment.

So I guess the first big scale world state import must have been in DA2. I remember a lot of decisions being posible to set there. They had created a web application where you could set up a world state for DA2 and it would spit out a save file for importing into the game.

 

[Fargus]

So I guess the first big scale world state import just have been in DA2

Mass Effect 2. And some of your decisions made there are really helpful in the third game if you want to make peace between Quarians and the Geth.

 

[Lord_Potato]

A pity CDPR didn't do it for Witcher 2. All your choices from W1 are meaningless. You can romance Shani all you want - in the prologue of W2 Geralt wakes up next to Triss. Even if you played W1 as an elf enthusiast, you can still support Roche and his elf-killers in W2 without any problems.

They allowed transfer of some decisions from W2 to W3, sometimes with dramatic consequences (like Letho's appearance in the third game and him taking part in the battle for Kaer Morhen) but it was still underwhelming in comparison with what Bioware did in Mass Effect games (regardless of the dissapointing color-coded endings of ME3).

 

[Storyfag]

A pity CDPR didn't do it for Witcher 2. All your choices from W1 are meaningless. You can romance Shani all you want - in the prologue of W2 Geralt wakes up next to Triss. Even if you played W1 as an elf enthusiast, you can still support Roche and his elf-killers in W2 without any problems.

Schwartze-Skinned-Unterpersonn, bitte.

Act 3 has major changes dependent on your relationship with the Order of the Flaming Rose, potentially making the Knights non-hostile (which is key to avoiding a big fight when saving the la Valette kid and giving it to Roche), and granting you access to their camp and the merchant therein. You can even listen to their prayers (and I can tell you translating them to English was a kicker).

There are also some small reactions (optional fight, iirc) in Act 2, depending on whether you lifted Adda's curse or not.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Schwartze-Skinned-Unterpersonn, bitte.

Act 3 has major changes dependent on your relationship with the Order of the Flaming Rose, potentially making the Knights non-hostile (which is key to avoiding a big fight when saving the la Valette kid and giving it to Roche), and granting you access to their camp and the merchant therein. You can even listen to their prayers (and I can tell you translating them to English was a kicker).

There are also some small reactions (optional fight, iirc) in Act 2, depending on whether you lifted Adda's curse or not.

Details, details. Now I vaguely remember you could bring Aerondight from W1 into W2, if you got it from the Lady of the Lake. So what, with the new, broken itemization of W2 it was quickly outclassed by generic sword nr 325.

But lets focus on the big issues that actually matter. Where is fuckable Shani in Witcher 2, eh? I'm tired of this redhead witch stalking Geralt wherever he goes.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

They allowed transfer of some decisions from W2 to W3, sometimes with dramatic consequences (like Letho's appearance in the third game and him taking part in the battle for Kaer Morhen) but it was still underwhelming

Unfortunately that's due to them not being able to implement all that they had planned. Iorveth for example was supposed to show up in relation to a plague-related plot.

 

[Pink Eye]

Honestly, I wish Bioware would have taken the Larian approach and just made the games take place hundreds of years into the future; this would not only give the game a new blank to drawn on but it'd also prevent the continuity from getting *too* convoluted when you have to consider so many variables from save import. I think the whole save import thing probably added more work than necessary for what basically amounted to little details that only hardcore fans would notice. For me personally, I didn't really notice much when I imported form Origins to DA 2 - the game still had the same conflict of Mage fags hating Templar fags and a mage fag committing 9/11 on the Chantry. I also didn't notice if my Origins import changed anything with Mage fags practicing blood magic in the end which is the reason why Templar fags hated them - could just be a DA 2 thing though, never played Inquisition.

Though on that note, I did have some fun references when I imported Mass Effect 1 to the sequel.

 

[Konjad]

Honestly, I wish Bioware would have taken the Larian approach and just made the games take place hundreds of years into the future;

Does it really matter when the gameplay is likely shit and the game is full of tranny propaganda?

Hundreds of years into the future would be modern times or Mass Effect anyway.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Hundreds of years into the future would be modern times or Mass Effect anyway.

Sorry, fam. Generic fantasy setting. Technology doesn't seem to advance in these))

 

[Pink Eye]

Sorry, fam. Generic fantasy setting. Technology doesn't seem to advance in these))

Eh, Dragon Age in the future would have turned into popamole cover garbage that Mass Effect 3 turned into.

 

[Child of Malkav]

Regarding David Gaider, man, what a faggot. Who the fuck denigrates critique from customers like that by saying: you're just a tourist. In any other industry someone doing that would result in them getting fired or, worse, your company will lose sales, hard. Yet, for some reason, game developers are able to constantly belittle their customers - what a fucked up industry.

Well, my theory is that because they have their backs covered (they receive money to exist) they don't care about making good games. They just care about pushing the agenda. Normally, a company would care about profits and profits come from customers and would refrain from attacking or insulting in any way, their customers. Which brings me to the next point.
Insults. And attacks. These people are not gamers. This industry is populated by suits at the top and devs desperate for jobs or women/trannies hired because diversity requirements. None of these people are gamers. They didn't grow up playing video games. Their hobbies don't include videogames. To the point where a number of them literally coming out and saying they hate games and gamers. Some cases with a writer chick saying that and that other SBI dude/thing saying he wants to burn the industry to the ground.
Now here's the thing: the fans are not gamers either. My theory is that they're movie watchers. They're shallow, superficial and they chase trends.
Back when video games came out they made fun of nerds playing them. Now they are playing as well but for different reasons: trend chasing, shilling, streaming, status etc.
They are the main audience for these movie games or bad, woke games in general.
Did you notice that in the vast majority of cases, reviewers don't talk about gameplay and when they do, they don't talk about the mechanics or go in depth on them? They only focus on story, characters, voice acting, animations, music etc. All of these are movie qualities.
Have you also noticed that in arguments, when actual gamers talk or obsess over certain mechanics or features, the fake fans at some point call them nerds? The same exact insult they used to thtow back when games were in their infancy, so to speak. They out themselves easily. So the modern audience is comprised of very few gamers, a lot of activists for various political and social subjects, shills which are just doing their marketing job, useful idiots who eat shit and order double, trannies (IDK how many there are but there seems to be quite a few which is weird because for them not being able to reproduce they sure multiply) and movie goers who play games for completely different reasons than gamers do.
The gaming industry is dead and the crash/collapse cannoy come soon enough.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

the idea of decisions carrying over between games originated with the Baldur's Gate saga

did it really? I never noticed, but then again, I haven't played those games in 20 years. I just remember Jahira's husband was dead at the start.

You're right actually. There was no NPC-related stuff in terms of who would be alive and who wouldn't, but you could import your character from BG, although the inventory wasn't carried over. Imoen had this line in the beginning about how Irenicus has sold your best equipment.

So I guess the first big scale world state import must have been in DA2. I remember a lot of decisions being posible to set there. They had created a web application where you could set up a world state for DA2 and it would spit out a save file for importing into the game.

In Pillar of Eternity 2 you can import many choices you have made in the previous game. Although many of them ar not particularly interesting or far reaching, they are nice touches nevertheless.

 

[Pink Eye]

The gaming industry is dead and the crash/collapse cannoy come soon enough.

I think the gaming industry is *too* big to fall but companies like Ubisoft who are responsible for grabbing rich cultures and just "moderinizing" them in their Asscreed series, are finally getting their comeuppance.

 

[NecroLord]

Honestly, I wish Bioware would have taken the Larian approach and just made the games take place hundreds of years into the future; this would not only give the game a new blank to drawn on but it'd also prevent the continuity from getting *too* convoluted when you have to consider so many variables from save import. I think the whole save import thing probably added more work than necessary for what basically amounted to little details that only hardcore fans would notice. For me personally, I didn't really notice much when I imported form Origins to DA 2 - the game still had the same conflict of Mage fags hating Templar fags and a mage fag committing 9/11 on the Chantry. I also didn't notice if my Origins import changed anything with Mage fags practicing blood magic in the end which is the reason why Templar fags hated them - could just be a DA 2 thing though, never played Inquisition.

Though on that note, I did have some fun references when I imported Mass Effect 1 to the sequel.

Yet more sequel retardation, where every piece of a franchise has to be either a sequel or a prequel after the original .
Why not explore a different time period entirely? Tevinter Imperium? Andraste and Maferath?

 

[Asymptotics]

Honestly, I wish Bioware would have taken the Larian approach and just made the games take place hundreds of years into the future; this would not only give the game a new blank to drawn on but it'd also prevent the continuity from getting *too* convoluted when you have to consider so many variables from save import. I think the whole save import thing probably added more work than necessary for what basically amounted to little details that only hardcore fans would notice. For me personally, I didn't really notice much when I imported form Origins to DA 2 - the game still had the same conflict of Mage fags hating Templar fags and a mage fag committing 9/11 on the Chantry. I also didn't notice if my Origins import changed anything with Mage fags practicing blood magic in the end which is the reason why Templar fags hated them - could just be a DA 2 thing though, never played Inquisition.

Though on that note, I did have some fun references when I imported Mass Effect 1 to the sequel.

Yet more sequel retardation, where every piece of a franchise has to be either a sequel or a prequel after the original .
Why not explore a different time period entirely? Tevinter Imperium? Andraste and Maferath?

Because the current team of writers think that a Tevinter is a type of gender you get when going from male to female to retard to nigger to male to nigger again. And as much as they want to - they couldn't actually make that into a story that even reddit could stomach.

 

[AwesomeButton]

This industry is populated by suits at the top and devs desperate for jobs or women/trannies hired because diversity requirements. None of these people are gamers. They didn't grow up playing video games. Their hobbies don't include videogames.

What's worse is that if a good idea somehow breaks to the surface by some indie proof of concept game, it will get bought out and watered down as soon as the suits find its sales numbers to be making it "viable".

 

[thesecret1]

Honestly, I wish Bioware would have taken the Larian approach and just made the games take place hundreds of years into the future;

Does it really matter when the gameplay is likely shit and the game is full of tranny propaganda?

Hundreds of years into the future would be modern times or Mass Effect anyway.

Damn man. Imagine Bioware going through with this. DA series ends with the total elimination of magic in the world, leading up to a grand reveal that Dragon Age is actually a prequel to Mass Effect.

 

[Ryzer]

Honestly, I wish Bioware would have taken the Larian approach and just made the games take place hundreds of years into the future;

Does it really matter when the gameplay is likely shit and the game is full of tranny propaganda?

Hundreds of years into the future would be modern times or Mass Effect anyway.

Damn man. Imagine Bioware going through with this. DA series ends with the total elimination of magic in the world, leading up to a grand reveal that Dragon Age is actually a prequel to Mass Effect.

That would explain why both series are popamole garbage.

 

[Jenkem]

So are you going to be playing this, Jenkem?

I've never played a Dragon Age in my life why would I start now? The series has always been trash.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

"No real Frenchmen" huh

Lost colonists!

Did you see the Paris opening ceremonies. The French are flaming faggots these days

No. The French worship the inhabitants of their former colonies and work their butts off for them, but this LGBT circus, although supported by the government, does not have the same importance as in the USA. Yes, they have always been there, especially in Paris, but there is a difference between "In my city there is a BDSM club where all the fags go" and "In my city there is a BDSM club where all the fags go, which has been recognized by the city authorities as a cultural institution and monument of national heritage".

Moreover, the opening ceneromique is also the Comité international olympique and, informally, the European Commission, so it is rather an expression of the aspirations of global elites.

Baguette detected.

Québécois are a minority in Canada. Moreover, the entire LGBT "culture", vocabulary, flags and the belief that sexuality is something different from sex and that this sexuality can be the basis of human identity - these are (((Anglo-Saxon))) inventions.

ftfy

Most French ( all white btw) that arrive in Québec vote massively for Jean-Luc Mélenchon ( Far-Left candidate that hates White people, imagine Licorice on steroid)

Marxism replaced Catholicism in France, and among the unprivileged masses its dirty variant, trade union Marxism (this is the main reason why Anglo-Saxon LGBT Marxism never developed in France). Mélenchon embodies this whole ethos of the rebellious French folk, even if it doesn't make sense to common sense.

Stray Gods did pretty well

How?

 

[Pink Eye]

Tevinter Imperium?

Bro they turned Tevinter into a homosexual LARP simulator. It went from a grim dark region that you read about in earlier Codex entries to whatever the fuck this is:

 

[AwesomeButton]

Every next game is the contaminated memory of the last one.