Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Cael]

I wonder what EA think about Ubisoft getting 9/11'd after their games flopped. A month ago Ubi was telling investors gamers were excited for Outlaws and Shadows and pre-orders were good. Then Outlaws bombed and Shadows got punted into 2025. If these couldn't move the needle, there is zero chance Dragon Age can. EA was telling their investors the same shit a few days ago lol.

Woke games are a death sentence now. The well has been poisoned. Like-minded devs pushed too hard and they all did it at the same time. People see this trash for what it is and want none of it.

Ubisoft is essentially a jobs project for canadians it's not a real company it's public sector funded welfare for bad devs and a wealth extraction program for its executives.

That sounds familiar...

"How do you get a small/medium enterprise (SME) in moo fuckedland?"
"Give a kiwi a big company and wait."

 

[Semiurge]

IGN's recent article seems like it did some damage to dragon age subreddit. Its entertaining to read the reactions when fans are forced to face the reality because they were in complete denial last week about the situation of choices from past games not carrying over.

It's so crazy to see criticism on r/dragonage that isn't immediately censored and removed.

I guess BioWare saying they don't care about canon actually did a number on their core fanbase.

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There shouldn't be a "canon" at all if your choices carry over to the sequels, but often there is because when a game series gets lengthy, and without the same set protagonist, it gets increasingly complex to implement these choices properly. So with each installment, the choices that carry over get more and more insignificant and cosmetic.

If they gave up on BioWare a decade ago (or more, for those of whom DAO was “the last good game”) then they were never going to buy the game anyhow. At which point: why should Bio listen to them? “Abandon your fanbase and woo us instead!” …okay, sure Jan.

Thank you for the kudos, but I think you overestimate my influence. By all reports, the writing is stellar (which I’d expect no less from Patrick and their team). As for the rest, whether you think it’s good or not it would be no different if I was still at BioWare.

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He's totally right here, though. Bioware games have always been super liberal for their era. People bitching about this are just bitching because their brains are so corrupted by the the culture wars that they bitch about how every game is woke.

They are the same sort of 2006 era boomers freaking out about lesbians in Mass Effect 1 on Fox News:



The truth is that you're all dumbfucks taking the click-bait that right wing influencers thrive on.

No one gives a fuck. If you don't want liberal politics, then don't play bioware games.

But rage sells, especially to fucking stupid people, and you men are buying.

Your being your way means that you can't see how politically radical games and media have become in just a decade. Media is the most important tool of communist programming, and has always been.

Another party member introduction where they strut around all cool and shit and all dialogue choices are just a different flavor of kissing their arses, and even when not your mildly sarcastic comment will be outshined by their superiorly witty quip. This is the good guy Rook, everybody's best friend or alternatively everybody's spit bucket. You will not get a chance to be an asshole, and even if you did they'd make sure to let the NPCs have the last laugh. Veilguard looks like a product of writers and designers who are too much in lust with their character creations and so they try to shield them from all harm, even at the cost of player agency. Then again, this thing was for the most part designed as an MMO so player agency and C&C were never the first priority. It's still an MMO with a "deeply touching" story tacked on it, and to hell with any player who wants to tell the story in his shameful cis-white-male way!



Oh well, at least you get to have pretty hair and mastectomy scars.

Reminds me of Astarion. He puts a knife to your throat, the most upset you can get about it is to throw a bitch fit. You can technically kill him, but only when the dialogue ends, and you finally have full control over your character's actions again.

Without having seen this scene it sounds like the player character's reaction is logical. If someone has a knife to your throat you'd try to negotiate with them because at the moment they have the upper hand.

 

[sosmoflux]

I have to admit all this talk is making me want to give Dragon Age II and Inquisition an actual go. Only ever played Origins and about 5 hours of II.

Surely not though, right? Surely not.

 

[Butter]

I have to admit all this talk is making me want to give Dragon Age II and Inquisition an actual go. Only ever played Origins and about 5 hours of II.

Surely not though, right? Surely not.

The suicide hotline is 24/7. You don't have to do this.

 

[Tyranicon]

I have to admit all this talk is making me want to give Dragon Age II and Inquisition an actual go. Only ever played Origins and about 5 hours of II.

Surely not though, right? Surely not.

I can't think of a single reason to recommend Inquisition.

The only reason to recommend II is that at least it's not Inquisition.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

So are you going to be playing this, Jenkem?

 

[Fedora Master]

I have to admit all this talk is making me want to give Dragon Age II and Inquisition an actual go. Only ever played Origins and about 5 hours of II.

Surely not though, right? Surely not.

These games are so bad they will retroactively make you dislike DAO

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Reminds me of Astarion. He puts a knife to your throat, the most upset you can get about it is to throw a bitch fit. You can technically kill him, but only when the dialogue ends, and you finally have full control over your character's actions again.

Without having seen this scene it sounds like the player character's reaction is logical. If someone has a knife to your throat you'd try to negotiate with them because at the moment they have the upper hand.

There are a bunch of chances to avoid it. If you failed the perception check to notice him approaching you from behind, and then failed the checks to see if you can push him away or kill him, your wimpy character kind of deserves to be reduced to begging. Even then you can save what remains of your dignity by having the parasite give him a headache so he knows you're not a thrall yet.

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

I have to admit all this talk is making me want to give Dragon Age II and Inquisition an actual go. Only ever played Origins and about 5 hours of II.

Surely not though, right? Surely not.

Yeah, I got the bug too. Been chipping away at Inquisition again on my Series X this past week. It's very flawed but mild fun can be had. It's missing something though... not sure what. My only real complaint is the structure is a complete mess.

I do wish I could go around punching and killing everyone like I did in Mass Effect 2. The renegade path was the only reason I adored that game. Punching the woman reporter in the face was peak 360 era gaming.

 

[Fedora Master]

Been chipping away at Inquisition

Stop being part of the problem

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

Been chipping away at Inquisition

Stop being part of the problem

Stop complaining about everything

 

[Fedora Master]

Been chipping away at Inquisition

Stop being part of the problem

Stop complaining about everything

I hit you because I love you

Sadly, you can't beat the stupid out of someone

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

Been chipping away at Inquisition

Stop being part of the problem

Stop complaining about everything

I hit you because I love you

Sadly, you can't beat the stupid out of someone

You complain incessantly like a woman. Just an observation. Hope that helps.

Veilguard is down to 118 on the Steam pre-order charts btw. Next few weeks are gonna be a show. Can't wait.

 

[gurugeorge]

If they gave up on BioWare a decade ago (or more, for those of whom DAO was “the last good game”) then they were never going to buy the game anyhow. At which point: why should Bio listen to them? “Abandon your fanbase and woo us instead!” …okay, sure Jan.

Thank you for the kudos, but I think you overestimate my influence. By all reports, the writing is stellar (which I’d expect no less from Patrick and their team). As for the rest, whether you think it’s good or not it would be no different if I was still at BioWare.

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Shame Gaider has apparently gone woketard. I always thought he did a pretty good job with the lore of DA:O, it was a good foundation as a grim, gritty game world.

 

[Bulo]

He's also a paedophile

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Veilguard is down to 118 on the Steam pre-order charts btw. Next few weeks are gonna be a show. Can't wait.

Many of their Reddit sycophants also turned out against them when they saw how few decisions got carried over from DAI. No wonder they tried to hide the fact, but that'll probably cost them quite a few preorders and refunds.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

And lol, what a pathetic attempt at a positive spin for their lazy decision,

 

[Skinwalker]

I have to admit all this talk is making me want to give Dragon Age II and Inquisition an actual go.

I replayed Cisquisition a year ago on a self-destructive whim, and all I can say is: DON'T DO IT. Stop yourself, before it's too late!

 

[Semiurge]

I have to admit all this talk is making me want to give Dragon Age II and Inquisition an actual go. Only ever played Origins and about 5 hours of II.

Surely not though, right? Surely not.

Yeah, I got the bug too. Been chipping away at Inquisition again on my Series X this past week. It's very flawed but mild fun can be had. It's missing something though... not sure what. My only real complaint is the structure is a complete mess.

I do wish I could go around punching and killing everyone like I did in Mass Effect 2. The renegade path was the only reason I adored that game. Punching the woman reporter in the face was peak 360 era gaming.

I swear even the terminator had a wider range of facial expressions than male shep.

Veilguard is down to 118 on the Steam pre-order charts btw. Next few weeks are gonna be a show. Can't wait.

Oof.

Veilguard is down to 118 on the Steam pre-order charts btw. Next few weeks are gonna be a show. Can't wait.

Many of their Reddit sycophants also turned out against them when they saw how few decisions got carried over from DAI. No wonder they tried to hide the fact, but that'll probably cost them quite a few preorders and refunds.

Never fear, at least the romances carry over. That should keep most of them happy.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Never fear, at least the romances carry over. That should keep most of them happy.

I bet that the romance one in particular is also somewhat disingenuous and in all actuality is only there to check for the Solas romance while disregarding the rest.

 

[Hedasd]

And lol, what a pathetic attempt at a positive spin for their lazy decision,

I dont understand why Mary Kirby is arguing with people. She worked on Dragon Age games since 2006 until Bioware fired her last year and she even sued the company. But I guess even Bioware does something right sometimes.

 

[Larianshill]

Without having seen this scene it sounds like the player character's reaction is logical. If someone has a knife to your throat you'd try to negotiate with them because at the moment they have the upper hand.

How about watching the scene instead of commenting on it without watching, you fucking retard. After he puts a knife to your throat, circumstances force him to step back and rethink his approach. You'd really expect to see "Nobody attacks me and lives" dialogue option afterwards, but it's not there.

 

[Pink Eye]

Aw man, that was wild, I've been in Florida for 20+ years, been at Sarasota, Venice, Daytona, Tampa, Bradenton, Brandon, Orlando, and I've ever seen anything like this before; a fucking hurricane then a tornado back to back ravaging and rattling my shitty apartment. I thought the apartment was about to get blown away. Just the sheer pounding from the wailing winds had me bracing for impact - of course my dumbass opened the front door to verify that yes, that is indeed a hurricane outside. I also tried going to the Gym during that because there was no way a lame hurricane was going to prevent me from completing my 60 day challenge; the Gym was closed, sadly, but I still managed to get a good workout at home with my dumbells and pull up bar.

Anyways, one thing has been fueling my existence throughout the ordeal, which is: I hate this game so much. God this game pisses me off.

Regarding David Gaider, man, what a faggot. Who the fuck denigrates critique from customers like that by saying: you're just a tourist. In any other industry someone doing that would result in them getting fired or, worse, your company will lose sales, hard. Yet, for some reason, game developers are able to constantly belittle their customers - what a fucked up industry. How does me being a tourist even make sense, I spent hundreds of hours playing Origins on the Xbox then a few more on PC. I'm sure there are a lot of other players who spent even more hours, possibly years, of their lives on that game. For fuck's sake does Gaider even remember that Origins had Broodmothers which were w*men that were kidnapped then raped by Darkspawn in order to breed more Darkspawn - very progressive, very woke. I guess the most "woke" thing Origins had was same sex romance but like, lesbians are hot and based. Also, sexy lesbians are not comparable to fuckin' "top surgery" scars, what the fuck.

How do you even begin to articulate that modern "progressive" bullshit is even comparable to lesbians?!

What a hilariously cool picture, damn. Today making a company ad like that would...well, on one hand, get an unbelievable amount of screeching from the "usual suspects", but also so many high fives from mentally healthy people.

Kek. Here's your companion bro:

That will be 69.99 plus don't forget to tip.

 

[Morgoth]

Regarding David Gaider, man, what a faggot. Who the fuck denigrates critique from customers like that by saying: you're just a tourist. In any other industry someone doing that would result in them getting fired or, worse, your company will lose sales, hard. Yet, for some reason, game developers are able to constantly belittle their customers

More power to them. Disagree with devs all you want, but they shan't be slaves to consoomers.

 

[Pink Eye]

they shan't be slaves to consoomers.

LOL! We pay their goddamned bills, get the fuck out of here. Give us hot women with big breasts and tight fat asses. Don't give us this tranny shit then call us tourists.