Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[Sweeper]

Watching reddit bugmen champion this soulless product which is utterly devoid of... anything really, is the most schadenfreude thing I've ever experienced.
Just imagine being that dude. They're inhabiting the lowest circle of hell.

 

[Yosharian]

So what's the general consensus on the game?

it's quite decent

It's kinda like Hogwarts Legacy, but gay(er). Meh game, bad DA game.

I'm so tired of seeing this shit 'oh it's not a terrible game, it's just a bad DA game'

No, it's a fucking shit game

 

[Axel_am]

It's kinda like Hogwarts Legacy, but gay(er).

Spot on description. I was wondering if anybody else was thinking this the other day.

 

[BrotherFrank]

Yeah i have noticed the "it's just a bad DA game" cope pop up a lot all of a sudden.

Is this the new firmware update after "a return to form for bioware!" failed that every npc will be repeating now?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Yeah i have noticed the "it's just a bad DA game" cope pop up a lot all of a sudden.

It's not a cope, but it isn't necessarily praise either. It's a milquetoast game that is mechanically competent, but boring and inoffensive (and infantile, in both writing and 'accessible' gameplay). The video game equivalent of some meh Pixar movie.

 

[Nikanuur]

Compiling a list of registered Veilguard players is vital work for the safety of the Codex. Perhaps it should be mandatory for them to inform us of their proclivities upfront before entering an area where RPGs are being discussed.

But what about those who willingly undergo the macabre ordeal of entering the Veilguard gaemplay Deep Waters of Unthinkable Abomination in order to assess the horribleness factor, and to refund the game with due negative review afterwards?
I thought about it for a while myself, to be honest, but then I remembered that my Protection from Evil spell is only of 7th level, and as such, I have mostly inefficient defense against the abhorrent, monstrous conversations of pure torpidity, much less against the UI and costumes' muddle-some virulence I'd encounter there.

 

[Yosharian]

It's a milquetoast game that is mechanically competent

It is entirely not mechanically competent

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

Did the whole of Starbuck clap after that?

That story is clearly fake. I mean how is anyone even meant to believe that? There’s no way that type of person would ever be in a Starbucks right now, not with Starbucks supporting the Jews Israel. Or at least they’d never publicly announce they went to Starbucks. Post October 7th the new super left wing thing is to be incredibly antisemitic. You gotta love seeing people bitch about Kanye West bring antisemitic one day, and then a little later saying they won’t watch a Disney movie because they support Jews Zionist. Hopefully the whole Reddit gave them a good talking to with some bonus side eye before banning the person for being at Starbucks.

 

[Thalstarion]

Narcissists are often utterly crazy even if they're cunning enough to maintain a sense of outward stability in public. After having had the immense displeasure of having to deal with one first hand, I can safely say that they invest a lot of time in spinning fake narratives about events that didn't transpire.

There's one key trend in these fake stories. They usually end one of two particular ways. Sometimes both. Either they humiliate their supposed opposition or they convert them into sharing in whatever it is they're trying to promote. There's also a not so subtle attempt to signal their virtue, with the hope that their fellow narcissists will praise them. Of course, they'll know full well this supposed event didn't happen but in order to 'own the conservatives' they'll play along.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

Also, I can't put my finger as to exactly why but I can't stand Jason Schreier. What a clown.

Probably the only video games journalist I can recall by face and name, and he has managed to get a lot of inside information just by interviewing annoyed developers. He does good work, and you do benefit from it, even if you end up watching someone else's retelling of his journalism, because you can't stand him.

Schreier sucks. My favorite thing he did was pretend he had insider information on Fallout 76 when all he was doing was repeating the publicly available leaks that had been posted on 4chan years earlier. He waited until it became incredibly clear the 4chan stuff was actually real, and then he started writing about it saying it was something an insider had told him.

 

[Decado]

From IGN (which posted a fairly glowing review):

https://www.ign.com/articles/dragon-age-the-veilguard-is-at-war-with-itself

"The sequel to Inquisition’s Dread Wolf story is trapped in an action game with no interest in the past."

You don't say.

 

[Yosharian]

I am installing Dragon Age Origins and attempting to mod it up to its eyeballs, let's see if this shit holds up

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

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Don't come to youtube tomorrow.

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I didn't actually watch the video but the thumbnail was too hilarious to pass up. I actually find this guy crazy talented from watching his gamedev videos, but he might be going a little too hard in this direction.

Oh yeah, Mr. "I didn't want to make this video".

Find him kind of hard to watch. No particular reason. Something just doesn't resonate for me with him.

His gimmick is very cringe. Dude seems like a mega sperg.

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

It's a milquetoast game that is mechanically competent

It is entirely not mechanically competent

Compared to Devil May Cry 5, absolutely not. But as a AAA western game meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator, it's mechanically competent in that sense.

 

[Harthwain]

So the games you mentioned failed because they were woke, but BG3 succeeded despite being woke? That's a bit of a double standard innit?

Baldur's Gate 3 was made by Larian. The same developers who made Divinity: Original Sin 1 and 2, both very successful games as well.

Korean webcomic authors are light years ahead of Bioware when it comes to writing fantasy stories.

They are very based, because they don't care for wokeness of the West and focus on stories to make sense first and foremost.

You can't compare video game stories to regular stories, though. Video game stories must account for player agency and drive gameplay.

I disagree. Having a competent story can still help a video game. And the "player agency" is very limited, even if we talk specifically about cRPGs, especially narrative-driven ones.

 

[abija]

Compared to Devil May Cry 5, absolutely not. But as a AAA western game meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator, it's mechanically competent in that sense.

Drop this crap, it doesn't fly. Even if most people here didn't touch the game, it's painfully obvious just by watching couple minutes of gameplay that it's "mechanically atrocious".

 

[Larianshill]

"The sequel to Inquisition’s Dread Wolf story is trapped in an action game with no interest in the past."

Oh, NOW you are criticizing the game. Now, not when it came out.

 

[scytheavatar]

It's a milquetoast game that is mechanically competent

It is entirely not mechanically competent

Compared to Devil May Cry 5, absolutely not. But as a AAA western game meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator, it's mechanically competent in that sense.

The lowest common denominator loves games like Baldur's Gate 3 and Elden Ring. These games have far more "mechnical competence" than Veilguard. Heck even Witcher 3's combat has more depth.

The idea that the masses loved dumbed down, shallow games already has been proven to be false when Final Fantasy Mystic Quest bombed decades ago. Already reproven when Final Fantasy XVI flopped last year.

 

[Harthwain]

Compared to Devil May Cry 5, absolutely not. But as a AAA western game meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator, it's mechanically competent in that sense.

Drop this crap, it doesn't fly. Even if most people here didn't touch the game, it's painfully obvious just by watching couple minutes of gameplay that it's "mechanically atrocious".

Yeah, even people who were excited for it were disappointed.

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

Compared to Devil May Cry 5, absolutely not. But as a AAA western game meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator, it's mechanically competent in that sense.

Drop this crap, it doesn't fly. Even if most people here didn't touch the game, it's painfully obvious just by watching couple minutes of gameplay that it's "mechanically atrocious".

Cut the shit. Most people that played it say the combat is good. It’s the one thing most people agree on.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

Heck even Witcher 3's combat has more depth.

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

It's a milquetoast game that is mechanically competent

It is entirely not mechanically competent

Compared to Devil May Cry 5, absolutely not. But as a AAA western game meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator, it's mechanically competent in that sense.

The lowest common denominator loves games like Baldur's Gate 3 and Elden Ring. These games have far more "mechnical competence" than Veilguard. Heck even Witcher 3's combat has more depth.

The idea that the masses loved dumbed down, shallow games already has been proven to be false when Final Fantasy Mystic Quest bombed decades ago. Already reproven when Final Fantasy XVI flopped last year.

Not entirely true. Look up console reviews of Baldur’s Gate 3 and you’ll see tons of “played the first combat encounter and uninstalled. I hate turned based combat. It’s boring.” They need ADHD combat loops with lots of particle effect, something Veilguard delivers.

 

[Dark Souls II]

Most people that played it say the combat is good. It’s the one thing most people agree on.

"Most people" are not even sentient.

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

Most people that played it say the combat is good. It’s the one thing most people agree on.

"Most people" are not even sentient.

The consensus is that the combat is good/fine. It’s the lack of depth, bad writing and faggotry that everyone has problems with.

 

[Artyoan]

Update on my prediction. Metascore is 79 on pc, 83 on ps5. So my 82 was fairly close. Reviews on steam are not mixed but still mostly positive so I missed there.

I was right about the main criticism but the biggest complaint seems to be the writing in general, not just the story/characters. Even a few minutes on the dragon age reddit reveals that the hardcore fans find it be childish and the whole thing feels Disney/Marvel. To top it off, a secret true ending taints the previous Dragon Age games while plot developments render those games meaningless anyway since everyone in those regions is likely dead. Bravo.

Judging by EA's silence, they aren't even going to say it held up initially. They may just admit that it underperformed out of the gate and substantially so. If it were selling well, I imagine they would say so and Schreier wouldn't be quietly deleting tweets.

So in conclusion, my prediction was mixed as I actually overestimated the game.