Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[Larianshill]

Social media is one thing, I just couldn't believe how hard woke retardism hit my social group. [...] i had to drop my project spend weeks renaming 100-200 repo's from "master" to "main" because master is now a bad word and im promoting slavery just by going to work doing some code.

In what Circle of Hell were you working to begin with?

Almost everyone does it now. You might see a "master" every now and then, but rarely do you see something "slaved".

 

[InD_ImaginE]

How can Veilguard been going slowly when the Singleplayer version only started development in 2021? That's 3 years to shipped product. Fairly good/normal pace, no?

The Life service debacle before that, that's on EA. Why do people keep forgetting that?

Total development was nearly 10 years. The first Dragon Age, with its two false starts, took five years and back then that was considered a terribly long development time.

You done with your midwittery? 7 out of those 10 years wasted is EA's responsibility. How many EA execs were fired for that? Zilch.

If you failed to materialize decent game in 7 years you are still fucking shit you moron

 

[Space Satan]

Guess where two Veilguard writers, kicked from bioware ended up - Ghost Of Yotei.

 

[Larianshill]

Oh fuck.

 

[Fedora Master]

You're not allowed to have nice things.
Ghost of Tsushima was too successful, hence it needed to be made lame and gay.

 

[VerSacrum]

It isn't possible to make the Sushima sequel any lamer than it already is anyway. From the very first reveal with the fat dyke protag it was clear what their agenda is here, so, a good place for these people.

 

[Larianshill]

So... I'm a ronin.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

So... I'm a ronin.

What happened to your servitude to Larian?

 

[Camel]

Guess where two Veilguard writers, kicked from bioware ended up - Ghost Of Yotei.

It isn't possible to make the Sushima sequel any lamer than it already is anyway. From the very first reveal with the fat dyke protag it was clear what their agenda is here, so, a good place for these people.

Dombrow already ruined one sequel to the popular game by being the lead writer - ME: Andromeda.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Guess where two Veilguard writers, kicked from bioware ended up - Ghost Of Yotei.

For all its faults Bioware served as a containment zone for those creatures. Now when it's collapsing the illness spreads to other companies.

Wanted to see Bioware's demise? Be careful what you wish for.

 

[Larianshill]

Dombrow already ruined one sequel to the popular game by being the lead writer - ME: Andromeda.

Sorry, username. Face is tired.

 

[mondblut]

Daily reminder from your conscience: Veilguard Codex thread up to 200 pages, even without bear sex, while excellent indie games languish inside 20-30 page threads.

Trainwrecks attract onlookers, news at 11.

 

[Bakir]

Is Ghost of Yotei chick the same one who played in L.A. By Night? Annabelle?

Ya Allah!...

Game is legendary in every department.

 

[Roguey]

You're not allowed to have nice things.
Ghost of Tsushima was too successful, hence it needed to be made lame and gay.

Tsuhima was already woke and gay, this changes nothing.

 

[Elttharion]

You're not allowed to have nice things.
Ghost of Tsushima was too successful, hence it needed to be made lame and gay.

Tsuhima was already woke and gay, this changes nothing.

Now its even woker and gayer

 

[Fedora Master]

You're not allowed to have nice things.
Ghost of Tsushima was too successful, hence it needed to be made lame and gay.

Tsuhima was already woke and gay, this changes nothing.

Now its even woker and gayer

There is always more and it's always worse

 

[Camel]

For all its faults Bioware served as a containment zone for those creatures. Now when it's collapsing the illness spreads to other companies.

Wanted to see Bioware's demise? Be careful what you wish for.

BioWare refugees is a myth now, they went to bsn.boards.net or dispersed to reddit, the first place is dying. Most of them became Larian fans, with the company's death and no new games the fandom will die out soon.

 

[Lord_Potato]

For all its faults Bioware served as a containment zone for those creatures. Now when it's collapsing the illness spreads to other companies.

Wanted to see Bioware's demise? Be careful what you wish for.

BioWare refugees is a myth now, they went to bsn.boards.net or dispersed to reddit, the first place is dying. Most of them became Larian fans. WIth the company's death and no new games the fandom will die out soon.

I meant Bioware devs, not fans. Imagine people responsible for Veilguard writing now being everywhere, ruining your favorite franchises.

 

[jaekl]

For all its faults Bioware served as a containment zone for those creatures. Now when it's collapsing the illness spreads to other companies.

Wanted to see Bioware's demise? Be careful what you wish for.

BioWare refugees is a myth now, they went to bsn.boards.net or dispersed to reddit, the first place is dying. Most of them became Larian fans. WIth the company's death and no new games the fandom will die out soon.

I meant Bioware devs, not fans. Imagine people responsible for Veilguard writing now being everywhere, ruining your favorite franchises.

How will it be any different if we add a couple more to the pool of people who have already been doing that

 

[Storyfag]

Guess where two Veilguard writers, kicked from bioware ended up - Ghost Of Yotei.

For all its faults Bioware served as a containment zone for those creatures. Now when it's collapsing the illness spreads to other companies.

Wanted to see Bioware's demise? Be careful what you wish for.

As Tyranicon has foreseen, Veilguard will be the doom of the entire industry.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

The bioware refugees you might be alluding to were probably those hardcore peeps who were in the BSN at the height of the ME series' popularity. But in reality I think the mainstream RPG audience is divided into those who like Bioware style games and Bethesda style games. CDPR and Larian have inherited bits of both but I think a lot of people think of something like Mass Effect 2 or Skyrim when they think of "rpgs". Only recently you've seen people calling Skyrim bad. The Witcher 3 and Baldur's Gate 3 have rectified a lot of things when it comes to rpg design, TW3's characters are probably better than anything Bioware has ever done, and BG3 having decent reactivity and turn based combat validated stuff that was seen as "outdated" for a long while.

 

[Sergio]

For all its faults Bioware served as a containment zone for those creatures. Now when it's collapsing the illness spreads to other companies.

Wanted to see Bioware's demise? Be careful what you wish for.

BioWare refugees is a myth now, they went to bsn.boards.net or dispersed to reddit, the first place is dying. Most of them became Larian fans. WIth the company's death and no new games the fandom will die out soon.

I meant Bioware devs, not fans. Imagine people responsible for Veilguard writing now being everywhere, ruining your favorite franchises.

Most of my favourite franchises are already ruined.

 

[HumanTotemPole]

Guess where two Veilguard writers, kicked from bioware ended up - Ghost Of Yotei.

Interesting that Kirstjanson and Kirby are still credited after being laid off in 2023.

Veilguard writing can't be bad. They were brave enough to say "non-binary" in a fantasy setting. That's quality writing in my book!

What's funny is that people who say things like "What do you mean the writing is bad??" are serious. They think this is a criticism being leveled at the content, i.e. the plot.

In reality the plot is irrelevant. When I say the "the writing is bad" I mean the technical aspect of the writing is terrible. The writing -- the words and phrases used, in the order that they are used -- is bad. It is bad craftsmanship. That's what "the writing is bad" means.

In the same way that you'd say "this house is poorly built" and someone responds "What do you mean? The color looks great??" you should realize at that point that the person you're talking to is a fucking idiot.

Too little interrogation of personal ideologies and too much twitter-mediated perceptual distortion. The drop-off in quality is at its clearest when compared to their older work. Weekes going from Mordin to Taash over time is obvious but here's a character conflict example prompted by replaying ME2. Contrast Jack versus Miranda:


With Taash versus Emmrich:


Pretty stark when you see it side by side like this no? ME2 isn't exactly great art (it's a cover shooter from the 360 era after all) but Jack and Miranda have understandable, justifiable reasons for their conflict directly tied to their backgrounds as portrayed in game. Their actions in scene and their reactions to the successful Paragon interjection are character consistent too, as indeed is Shepard's dialogue if you've been playing Paragon. Certainly all very Hollywood but again tonally consistent with the rest of the experience. It isn't even fully resolved at the end, entirely as you would expect for such a fundamental disagreement between the two.

That particular DA4 scene has been ragged on endlessly at this point and rightfully so. It's childish beyond belief - the reasons for the spat, the character portrayals, the immediate resolution using de-escalation techniques designed for 5 year old children. In-setting these characters are supposed to be a dragon hunter and an experienced necromancer in what was formerly the more grimdark of the two IPs. The laid-off staff writing staff and their fans are simply too lost in the sauce to see how objectively bad Bioware's writing has become. Poor characters, poor content, poor construction. True multi-domain failure.


Late edit: unrelated to the writing but the actual direction of the DA4 scene is significantly worse too. Lots of shot changes, dynamic cutting and character movement in the ME2 scene. None of that in the DA4 footage. It's like an Oblivion NPC conversation with slightly more varied idle animations, exudes the same kind of plastic uncanniness and inanity.

 

[Semiurge]

Have you seen the average Dragon Age fan on twitter? Especially the ones who showed up in droves to bat for the game when it just released. Of course Bioware thinks that's who their fans are, who they should appeal to.

It was hilarious because during launch the loudest twitter fans always had a handle like "Peg me Solas egg daddy" and then you look at their profile and it's some 300 sub youtuber that BioWare paid to do grassroots marketing and their entire channel is badly written erotic fanfiction about bald elves.

I refuse to believe there are that many hungry blueballs-achy gays in any game fandom, well this about Dragon Age I could maybe believe, but considering how widespread this flaming queer lingo is in other fandoms, it really pegs (pun) the question. Sex invites a lot of interest, and the gay horny is safe horny. These modern game studios still aren't ready to once again brand themselves as caterers to red blooded males. The incel stigma is still alive in the leftard circles.

Isn't it weird though? Some of those writers wrote character like Mordin from Mass Effect, therefore its not that they lacked talent, so it was either a shift on their priorities to follow their political views, or they were pushed to write that sort of trash and are now being used as scapegoat.

Look at what has happened over the last decade. Especially in progressive social circles. These people visibly wrecked themselves in mind/body/soul, started insisting on infinite genders, mentally justified mutilation of minors, blame their own race for nearly every ill in world history, came to think the world is doomed from climate change, probably still wearing covid masks, and think everyone pointing any of this out is a bigoted nazi. All of these writers have been marinating in this shit for all this time. Imagine not being allowed to voice an honest thought in over a decade and then you understand how this is possible.

Before you can convert someone, you must break them with brainwashing techniques. These types are broken in every way imaginable, they even reject their own identities and are trying to build something new, a trans-something, anything. They're the perfect receptacles of the modern marxist dogma. Afraid, confused, and above all - malleable, ready to adopt a marxist worldview. Those who were not were rounded up into workcamps as dissidents.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

Now when it's collapsing the illness spreads to other companies.

You're talking about Sony. You can't infect them with anything, they're the fucking patient zero.