Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[Larianshill]

Have you seen the average Dragon Age fan on twitter? Especially the ones who showed up in droves to bat for the game when it just released. Of course Bioware thinks that's who their fans are, who they should appeal to.

 

[Tyranicon]

Have you seen the average Dragon Age fan on twitter? Especially the ones who showed up in droves to bat for the game when it just released. Of course Bioware thinks that's who their fans are, who they should appeal to.

It was hilarious because during launch the loudest twitter fans always had a handle like "Peg me Solas egg daddy" and then you look at their profile and it's some 300 sub youtuber that BioWare paid to do grassroots marketing and their entire channel is badly written erotic fanfiction about bald elves.

 

[Larianshill]

Have you seen the average Dragon Age fan on twitter? Especially the ones who showed up in droves to bat for the game when it just released. Of course Bioware thinks that's who their fans are, who they should appeal to.

It was hilarious because during launch the loudest twitter fans always had a handle like "Peg me Solas egg daddy" and then you look at their profile and it's some 300 sub youtuber that BioWare paid to do grassroots marketing and their entire channel is badly written erotic fanfiction about bald elves.

but femcel version

 

[Camel]

Have you seen the average Dragon Age fan on twitter? Especially the ones who showed up in droves to bat for the game when it just released. Of course Bioware thinks that's who their fans are, who they should appeal to.

While I agree about an average BioWare Twitter fan contingent, the EA's Marketing department has 525 employees and I think they gave BioWare a realistic overview of their main audience, it's just nuBioWare and Andy Busche made the game for themselves.

 

[Larianshill]

I have no reason to suspect that EA marketing department is any more competent than Bioware. Do you?

 

[Camel]

I have no reason to suspect that EA marketing department is any more competent than Bioware. Do you?

No beautiful women, top surgery(mastectomy) scars in the character creator, ugly troon Taash is an option for a male romance, a female dwarf is an another option for romance. It's like Veilguard made a conscious effort to repel a male gamer. BG3 for all degeneracy and faggotry has Shadowheart.

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

Daily reminder from your conscience: Veilguard Codex thread up to 200 pages, even without bear sex, while excellent indie games languish inside 20-30 page threads.

 

[Sergio]

Daily reminder from your conscience: Veilguard Codex thread up to 200 pages, even without bear sex, while excellent indie games languish inside 20-30 page threads.

Ok but it's 200 pages of angry rants.

 

[Camel]

Daily reminder from your conscience: Veilguard Codex thread up to 200 pages, even without bear sex, while excellent indie games languish inside 20-30 page threads.

Right, Veilguard was made by an unknown game studio, had zero controversies and didn't cost at least double the cost of BG3. Guys, the BioWare/EA game is discussed more than some obscure indie game, I'm too dumb to understand why it happens.

 

[NecroLord]

Daily reminder from your conscience: Veilguard Codex thread up to 200 pages, even without bear sex, while excellent indie games languish inside 20-30 page threads.

Shitting on AAA studios and their business practices never goes out of style.

 

[toro]

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

If there is a "nu ME" in the making (and that's a BIG IF), what are the chances they make a decent game of it for a change?

Can they? They don't have the talent. Let's presume for a second they fire their incompetent writers and hire someone who can actually write story and dialogue, without inserting woke garbage into the story. There's still a lot to Mass Effect - action, character design, animations, gunplay... Veilguard did have one redeeming quality - locations looked pretty. So I guess they have at least a few competent designers on their team. But what about everything else? And then there's the issue of management. Good managers don't result in Veilguard, so they too need to go.

The market also isn’t where it was when they created the Mass Effect series. Cover based shooters were all the rage back then, but now the market has shifted back to more run and Gun gameplay. Mass Effect was never a good tactical cover based shooter, but they’d probably have to do something even better today to get by if being a cover based shooter was what they were staying with.

Cover based shooters "were all the rage" due to the fact that technology finally allowed for that kind of gameplay. The first cover based shooter for the xbox was Kill Switch, which was noteworthy simply for its cover based combat. It was novel at the time, and it definitely wasn't just a "trend". Cover based combat was ubiquitous for the same reason that physics, destructible environments, and console multiplayer were ubiquitous -- it was cutting edge for the time.

Why don't we see cover-based combat today? It's because devs are talentless hacks for the most part, and studios have transitioned to making games for the lower common denominator who weren't gamers back in the day and have since taken up the hobby since it's become popular and acceptable to play games now. This is also the reason we don't really see much interactivity in games now, no destructible environments and no cover-based combat. There's a brand new audience to cater too, and this audience doesn't care about any of that.

The first cover based shooter was WinBack on the N64 and that was five years before Kill Switch. Kill Switch just did blind fire. And that’s just within third person shooters, since Gun.Smoke on the NES (the arcade version didn’t have this) let you shoot from cover. Maybe some other game did what Gun.Smoke did in ‘88 first, I don’t know, but that’s the oldest game I know of that let you shoot over cover while the cover blocked incoming projectiles.

I wouldn’t exactly call the move away from cover based shooting to be a negative.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

Have you seen the average Dragon Age fan on twitter? Especially the ones who showed up in droves to bat for the game when it just released. Of course Bioware thinks that's who their fans are, who they should appeal to.

Given how many copies this game sold, BioWare didn’t even manage to get the average Dragon Age fan. What you’re talking about is clearly a small subset of their audience, a subset too small to support BioWare and the games they make.

 

[Takamori]

I think they only aimed at the hamplanets back when Bioware forums were a thing that used to write fanfics all day about bioware characters.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

If BioWare did what the people on their old forum wanted Dragon Age would have a combat system and armor system more like Dragon’s Dogma. I remember them having a big thread over there where people would show off their created characters and how they mixed and matched armor parts; as that thread grew more and more people there also wanted a Dragon Age that played like Dragon’s Dogma. Although when people asked for that someone from BioWare might come in and say something like: Oh no, we wouldn’t do something like that, we do more tactical gameplay.

 

[Decado]

Veilguard writing can't be bad. They were brave enough to say "non-binary" in a fantasy setting. That's quality writing in my book!

What's funny is that people who say things like "What do you mean the writing is bad??" are serious. They think this is a criticism being leveled at the content, i.e. the plot.

In reality the plot is irrelevant. When I say that "the writing is bad" I mean the technical aspect of the writing is terrible. The writing -- the words and phrases used, in the order that they are used -- is bad. It is bad craftsmanship. That's what "the writing is bad" means.

In the same way that you'd say "this house is poorly built" and someone responds "What do you mean? The color looks great??" you should realize at that point that the person you're talking to is a fucking idiot.

 

[Oreshnik Missile]

I think its high time to admit that the local majority who still plays video games actually played this shit and liked it. But the problem is local faggots are closeted and are afraid of publicly admitting this fact.

The very foundations of this site are being shattered as we speak. Truly fabulous times. Slava Ukraini!

I'm literally just replaying underrail over and over, the rest of the RPG genre doesn't exist for me.

 

[Poseidon00]

I have possibly fake memories of early Dragon Age concept art with mongols. And it bothers me very much. Post all early DA stuff plox.

This was back when Dragon Age was still running on the Neverwinter Nights engine.

If Dragon Age had remained a series of Neverwinter Nights modules Veilguard never would have happened

 

[Myobi]

Isn't it weird though? Some of those writers wrote character like Mordin from Mass Effect, therefore its not that they lacked talent, so it was either a shift on their priorities to follow their political views, or they were pushed to write that sort of trash and are now being used as scapegoat.

 

[Artyoan]

Isn't it weird though? Some of those writers wrote character like Mordin from Mass Effect, therefore its not that they lacked talent, so it was either a shift on their priorities to follow their political views, or they were pushed to write that sort of trash and are now being used as scapegoat.

Look at what has happened over the last decade. Especially in progressive social circles. These people visibly wrecked themselves in mind/body/soul, started insisting on infinite genders, mentally justified mutilation of minors, blame their own race for nearly every ill in world history, came to think the world is doomed from climate change, probably still wearing covid masks, and think everyone pointing any of this out is a bigoted nazi. All of these writers have been marinating in this shit for all this time. Imagine not being allowed to voice an honest thought in over a decade and then you understand how this is possible.

 

[Thalstarion]

Isn't it weird though? Some of those writers wrote character like Mordin from Mass Effect, therefore its not that they lacked talent, so it was either a shift on their priorities to follow their political views, or they were pushed to write that sort of trash and are now being used as scapegoat.

Look at what has happened over the last decade. Especially in progressive social circles. These people visibly wrecked themselves in mind/body/soul, started insisting on infinite genders, mentally justified mutilation of minors, blame their own race for nearly every ill in world history, came to think the world is doomed from climate change, probably still wearing covid masks, and think everyone pointing any of this out is a bigoted nazi. All of these writers have been marinating in this shit for all this time. Imagine not being allowed to voice an honest thought in over a decade and then you understand how this is possible.

Yep. I've lost a fair few friends to the craziness of social media. I gradually watched them become completely different people in order to 'fit in'. I'm convinced some people are just wired to be weak to peer pressure whereas others can thankfully resist it.

 

[Inec0rn]

Social media is one thing, I just couldn't believe how hard woke retardism hit my social group. It was bizzare, 4 dudes become trans, some of their dads went trans too, there are 15039 genders, address me as shes/ehs/xxe/godandsavior etc.

And it as un-excapable!!, retard progressive friends i can give some leeway but then you would go to work and there's flag emoji's and pronouns on everything, i had to drop my project spend weeks renaming 100-200 repo's from "master" to "main" because master is now a bad word and im promoting slavery just by going to work doing some code.

I've basically lost faith in humanity from the last decade and I now want a quiet off-grid lifestyle.

 

[Harthwain]

Social media is one thing, I just couldn't believe how hard woke retardism hit my social group. [...] i had to drop my project spend weeks renaming 100-200 repo's from "master" to "main" because master is now a bad word and im promoting slavery just by going to work doing some code.

In what Circle of Hell were you working to begin with?

 

[Artyoan]

Social media is one thing, I just couldn't believe how hard woke retardism hit my social group. [...] i had to drop my project spend weeks renaming 100-200 repo's from "master" to "main" because master is now a bad word and im promoting slavery just by going to work doing some code.

In what Circle of Hell were you working to begin with?

Bioware, of course.

 

[Inec0rn]

Social media is one thing, I just couldn't believe how hard woke retardism hit my social group. [...] i had to drop my project spend weeks renaming 100-200 repo's from "master" to "main" because master is now a bad word and im promoting slavery just by going to work doing some code.

In what Circle of Hell were you working to begin with?

oh only a large government agency at the time.