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Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

Artyoan

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Decided to enter the hive and read up how the faithful were taking it. Came across this post about the writing and thought it was quite good. I don't agree entirely as I think the author attempts to assign blame to 'tumblr' as opposed to what has become standard left/prog group behavior over the past decade. Weekes is a they/them. He wants to push a message far more than he wants to tell a good story and that is how they got bharves. People don't just regress, they can lose their minds outright.
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Dishonoredbr

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Decided to enter the hive and read up how the faithful were taking it. Came across this post about the writing and thought it was quite good. I don't agree entirely as I think the author attempts to assign blame to 'tumblr' as opposed to what has become standard left/prog group behavior over the past decade. Weekes is a they/them. He wants to push a message far more than he wants to tell a good story and that is how they got bharves. People don't just regress, they can lose their minds outright.
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Veilguard felt sickly cozy. It's tried way too hard to force the "cozy farm game". You had the one that really loves coffee, books , his pet, etc without asking if that compliments their personality or story.

Some of them do , but end up being out place. Harding going to camping in middle of blighted war zone or Darvin wasting half of his character arc to a cute pet doggo with wings.
 

Elttharion

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PCGaymer is truly the trashiest of the trash.
Nothing but pure garbage.
Discovered it 2 years ago or so, read a few articles there and I was done, finished, never wanted to hear from it again.
Does a disservice to the PC community overall.
What a piece of shit.
Not that you are wrong (although The Gamer and Eurogamer are even worse than PCG, somehow) but that article is actually decent, at least in as much it does not portray Veilguard in positive light, at all.

It would be decent if the jurno wasn't trying to paint Origins as a second coming of Jesus. It wasn't - it was mediocre to decent at times rtwp game, released in dire times when there was almost nothing of value published in RPG genre. Yeah, there were some cool ideas, but today we should see it and measure it for what it really is.
If the only good DA game was "mediocre", why are we even wasting time getting upset over Veilguard's direction? What do we want to return to, some "mediocre" game nobody should even remember (because it's "mediocre")? No, while that game wasn't exactly the second coming of Jesus, it was still pretty damn awesome.
No no, you misunderstand. I am not upset, I think the direction they took Veilguard is freaking hilarious.
 

Elttharion

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Decided to enter the hive and read up how the faithful were taking it. Came across this post about the writing and thought it was quite good. I don't agree entirely as I think the author attempts to assign blame to 'tumblr' as opposed to what has become standard left/prog group behavior over the past decade. Weekes is a they/them. He wants to push a message far more than he wants to tell a good story and that is how they got bharves. People don't just regress, they can lose their minds outright.
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They need someone
The answer for why the writting sucks is staring the redditor straight in the face and he still cant break his programming...
 

Harthwain

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These idiots should start demanding to boycott EA for firing BioWare's staff on the grounds of it being discriminatory to the developers of such a masterpiece. I mean, why would you dismantle a studio that just has Returned to Form™? It is obviously a sabotage from bigots in suits!
 

Konjad

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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Codex+ Now Streaming! Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
What were the Doctors thinking when they made a bargain with the EA Devil?
Don't blame EA, they were maybe 50% of the problem. Tops.

EA was the problem 100% of the time the moment they took over.

But I'm not surprised Chuds would be siding with the Button-Awesome imbeciles.
Bioware was always chasing trends, they even wanted to make Baldur's Gate an RTS because RTS games were popular back then, but the publisher had more sense than them.

Thanks,
Sherry
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Taxnomore

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Whatever you think of Bioware, from the founders point of view, the EA buyout was an excellent move for anyone who had shares in the company for a long long time.

Companies die. If you made a buttload of money during your 20 year run, who cares if you're filing for bankruptcy at some point? You still won.
 

Larianshill

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EA was the problem 100% of the time the moment they took over.
Absolute delusion, although I've come to expect it from you. By every account of people who actually know anything about the situation (like Jason Schreier), at every opportunity EA asked "Would you like literally anything else but rope?", but Bioware kept insisting on more rope to hang itself with. Let's take Anthem, for example - there's a false narrative surrounding it, about how poor RPG studio Bioware was stopped from making epic single player RPGs to make this slop. But that's not what happened at all. Bioware wanted to make Anthem. It was their idea. And then after pitching it and getting approval, began the real horror story - there's the infamous account of the Bioware workers watching the Anthem trailer for the first time and going "Wait, this is the game we're making?". How terrible does your vision have to be, that your own workers have no idea what's the game they're making looks and plays like? What game could such workers end up making?

After Andromeda, Anthem and Veilguard, EA have shown shocking forgiveness to Bioware. They've killed off studios for less.
 
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Space Satan

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I can't blame docs. They were offered a huge sum and probably won't have to work a day for the rest of their lives. It is like with that MySpace creator - some guy said that he was a looser because he sold his service, and he answeredthat he earned about 200 mils and you live your life hoping for a day off
 

v1c70r14

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EA was the problem 100% of the time the moment they took over.
The problem being Bioware not being rightfully shut down after Jade Empire flopped? I guess you could blame EA for Bioware existing past 2007, but you can't blame EA for the terrible games they made without EA's financial help.
 

Maxie

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EA was the problem 100% of the time the moment they took over.
The problem being Bioware not being rightfully shut down after Jade Empire flopped? I guess you could blame EA for Bioware existing past 2007, but you can't blame EA for the terrible games they made without EA's financial help.
BioWare created Ass Effect right after their acquisition by Microsoft, it was a good call to hedge.
 

Roguey

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What were the Doctors thinking when they made a bargain with the EA Devil?
The Old Republic was their dream game, and they needed a lot of money to make it happen. EA was willing to provide it. Once it and ME3 shipped, they didn't give a damn what happened to the company, they fulfilled their dreams, retired gracefully.
 

Larianshill

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Veilguard writing can't be bad. They were brave enough to say "non-binary" in a fantasy setting. That's quality writing in my book!
 

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