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Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

Hellion

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Starfield released on a Wednesday, reached 250k players on launch day, and reached its peak the next weekend at 330k.
BG3 left early access on a Thursday, reached almost 500k on launch day, 800k on the weekend and peaked at 880k next weekend.
Veilguard reached 70k on launch day. By the same logic, it might reach 100k on Sunday, or maybe a few k more than that.

The copium will be that "more players bought it on console or played in on the EA App" but, taking into account the franchise, the companies involved, the mega marketing and positive reviewing campaign, and the lack of any real alternatives in the market atm, it most certainly is a flop no matter how one choses to see it.
 
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TORtanic? TOR was a decent storyfag MMO (like TESO), not even in the same ballpark as troonguard.
It was hated by people who:
A. Don't play MMOs
B. Did expect single player KOTOR3.
C. Care about the lore established in K1 & TSL.
D. Despise when former PCs are regressed by retarded writers.

It's oft told some of the other class stories were done well, but it was pure decline where it counted most. Not spiritually revolting like Failguard, but insulting enough at the time for people who wanted a proper conclusion to KotOR.
 

countrydoctor

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Took a look at the endings and jesus fucking christ.
All game events starting with Origins were puppeteered by some shadowy Organization 13 esque group. They were behind Loghain's actions among other things.

These writers managed to make the same monumental oopsie that retroactively wrecked early Kiseki games with Erebonian Curse by taking all the agency away from actual political players and actions in favor of yet another cringe supernatural villain. And judging by the quality of Veilguard's antagonists, in DA5 (if it ever happens) we won't be fighting two Corypheuses, but an even larger group of the same worthless saturday morning cartoon rejects.
 

kapisi

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OK, 5 pm west coast
Los Angeles, San Francisco, pull your weight! Pump those numbers, brother sister!
 

Warrax

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Who is the target audience for those 'surgery scars' anyway? It's from a cosmetic operation. Surely actual transgender people don't want them.

Might as well have black playing characters start with less money and worse equipment and be denied access to certain game areas.
 

Zed Duke of Banville

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We have reached the point were BG3 is the 'based' game lmao
At least it's a real RPG where you can do whatever you want. For example genocide all the trannies, if you like so.
As much as I'm loath to defend BG3, there are good aspects to that game mixed in with the decline, to wit:

Lessons developers should learn from Baldur's Gate 3:
  • Tactical, turn-based combat sells
  • An RPG should have at least a semblance of exploration
  • A considerable amount of interactivity with the world can be accomplished, even in a game with turn-based combat
  • Quests can have various Choices & Consequences associated with them, and there can also be consequences for player actions outside quests
  • RPGs can have a fairly non-linear structure
Lessons developers will learn from Baldur's Gate 3:
  • Sex sells, especially with viral marketing
  • Aside from a single player-generated character, the party members should be pre-generated and have ludicrously convoluted backstories
  • Vast amounts of money should be spent on voice-acting and motion-capture, especially for those pre-generated companions
  • Embrace the worst fantasy setting possible
  • Players don't care about basing your game on a poor ruleset, such as "D&D 5th edition"

Failguard, by contrast, lacks a single redeeming feature.
 
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Starfield released on a Wednesday, reached 250k players on launch day, and reached its peak the next weekend at 330k.
BG3 left early access on a Thursday, reached almost 500k on launch day, 800k on the weekend and peaked at 880k next weekend.
Veilguard reached 70k on launch day. By the same logic, it might reach 100k on Sunday, or maybe a few k more than that.

The copium will be that "more players bought it on console or played in on the EA App" but, taking into account the franchise, the companies involved, the mega marketing and positive reviewing campaign, and the lack of any real alternatives in the market atm, it most certainly is a flop no matter how one choses to see it.
A september (2024) report stated that Inquisition sold 12 million units. That's only after a decade since the game's launch. In comparison, Skyrim sold 60 million copies as of 2023. The Witcher 3 is said to have sold over 50 million, not even a decade into the game's release.
 

BlackAdderBG

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TORtanic? TOR was a decent storyfag MMO (like TESO), not even in the same ballpark as troonguard.
It was hated by people who:
A. Don't play MMOs
B. Did expect single player KOTOR3.
C. Care about the lore established in K1 & TSL.
D. Despise when former PCs are regressed by retarded writers.

It's oft told some of the other class stories were done well, but it was pure decline where it counted most. Not spiritually revolting like Failguard, but insulting enough at the time for people who wanted a proper conclusion to KotOR.
Yup, the dialog writing was pretty good and you could fuck around with some dialog choices, all the Empire classes were very entertaining.You can actually see by the difference who wrote what and guess what classes were written by bioware's retards and what by semi-decent authors. Overall the story though was bland and what they did to Revan and kotor2 lore was terrible.
 

Elttharion

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