Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[kapisi]

To be fair, it's not like Loghain was ever made to be a reasonable, good leaning person. He was a cartoon villain from the get go.

Loghain was a good villain, but to learn his motivations you had to recruit him and talk to him, which very few people did.

There's also a book that expands on his and king's story, but I haven't read it

 

[Hellion]

Loghain was a good character. From Origins up till Inquisition it was left purposely unclear if he betrayed the king because he was power-hungry or because he feared the king would sell his country to Orlais, and they left clues that supported both reasons scattered throughout Origins.

So now they say that "ACTUALLY HE WAS MANIPULATED INTO DOING IT"? Lame and gay.

 

[Pink Eye]

I thought the reason why Loghain betrayed the King was because the King was an idiot who wanted to do some suicidal charge at the Darkspawn for glory. It's been a decade since I last played Origins though so I could be wrong on this.

 

[Alienman]

Loghain was a good character. From Origins up till Inquisition it was left purposely unclear if he betrayed the king because he was power-hungry or because he feared the king would sell his country to Orlais, and they left clues that supported both reasons scattered throughout Origins.

So now they say that "ACTUALLY HE WAS MANIPULATED INTO DOING IT"? Lame and gay.

I blame the Marvel curse.

 

[Spectral Pontifex]

You thought Origins was safe from these hacks since this was a soft reboot of the franchise? Nope, turns out a bunch of mystery niggas have been manipulating EVERY SINGLE event throughout the franchise. Those old debates on whether Loghain acted out of greed or desperation? No some spooky man made him do it. Bravo Weekes, absolute peak writing.

Inquisition made it pretty clear that they are going with the "We wuz ebil elven godz" explanation for everything.

Gaider's ideas weren't completely horrendous as long as he was kept in check by his sane colleagues and the more sane era of 2000s in general.

 

[normie]

I thought the reason why Loghain betrayed the King was because the King was an idiot who wanted to do some suicidal charge at the Darkspawn for glory.

no, it was because Loghain had a big nose and dark armor

 

[Larianshill]

I thought the reason why Loghain betrayed the King was because the King was an idiot who wanted to do some suicidal charge at the Darkspawn for glory. It's been decade since I last played though so I could be wrong on this.

It's very complicated and controversial. Calian certainly didn't help himself, but Loghain absolutely jumped at the opportunity. He didn't have to frame the Grey Wardens for regicide, he certainly didn't have to usurp the throne and make himself regent, he absolutely did not have to meddle in the Circle affairs and promote Uldred's bullshit (it's very easy to miss, but he's directly to blame for the circle questline), and there was nothing about the situation that demanded him to elevate earl Howe into the position he was in, or recruit a blood mage to assassinate his political rivals.

 

[Peachcurl]

It didn't even come close to touching the top ten.

It's really just a banana. You click, a number goes up, banana.

I understand why people prefer this to Veilguard.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

If this is the peak, it's actually a disaster. Looking at my crystal ball the game will sell around 200k on PC day one and for these types of games the ratio with consoles is around 30/70. So with preorders they could crack one million and flood the shill sites with all kind of fake "fastest selling ever on full moon when the earth was 48 degree compared to the sun on Saturday" types of press releases. Even if you read that they sold a million day one you should know that these games drop of the cliff on consoles compared to PC so it will probably never hit 2 million until it's in bundles and deep discounts. Under 100 million revenue for a game that is reportedly with a development budget of 150 millions is colossal flop.

 

[Pink Eye]

 

[aloeh]

It didn't even come close to touching the top ten.

Looks like Throne and Liberty is doing good.

I heard it's filled with p2w bullshit. I wonder why have a high retention.

 

[thesecret1]

It didn't even come close to touching the top ten.

It's really just a banana. You click, a number goes up, banana.

I understand why people prefer this to Veilguard.

The Banana game is so popular because it's not, in fact, just about clicking a banana. The real gameplay is in the meta, since the whole thing is a skinner box where there's a large amount of "super rare" bananas that have some very low % chance to drop as steam items. People then trade with these super rare bananas (using real money), some of them going for hundreds or even thousands of dollars. Why? Mostly because of speculation – people buy bananas not because they want bananas, but because they hope to resell them to some other rube that wants to speculate with bananas. The dev then periodically releases new bananas or even creates events for exclusive bananas that cannot be obtained save for a short time window – all to create more very scarce bananas so that people yearn for them and buy them.

 

[Pink Eye]

What a banana market.

 

[Spectral Pontifex]

The Banana game is so popular because it's not, in fact, just about clicking a banana. The real gameplay is in the meta, since the whole thing is a skinner box where there's a large amount of "super rare" bananas that have some very low % chance to drop as steam items. People then trade with these super rare bananas (using real money), some of them going for hundreds or even thousands of dollars. Why? Mostly because of speculation – people buy bananas not because they want bananas, but because they hope to resell them to some other rube that wants to speculate with bananas. The dev then periodically releases new bananas or even creates events for exclusive bananas that cannot be obtained save for a short time window – all to create more very scarce bananas so that people yearn for them and buy them.

I demand immediate return to feudalism and end to market economy.

 

[Melcar]

Totally bananas

 

[Alienman]

What a banana market.

 

[Modron]

What a banana market.

He forgot to mention people are botting it 24/7 in the background while doing other stuff, it's basically cryptomining for zoomers.

 

[Pink Eye]

I am genuinely curious what some normies expected when they bought this shit.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

We have reached the point were BG3 is the 'based' game lmao

At least it's a real RPG where you can do whatever you want. For example genocide all the trannies, if you like so.

 

[Alienman]

I am genuinely curious what some normies expected when they bought this shit.

 

[The Wall]

So LITERALLY Veilguard's all time peak failed to touch Baldur's Gate 3 daily peak. Morgoth ouch. That gotta hurt

 

[Fargus]

That wukong ching chong players peak... Entire tyranid hive fleet was playing it that day.

 

[kapisi]

Will it beat 103k peak of Twitcher 3, yay or nay?

Edit - goddammit, I said yay or nay

 

[Child of Malkav]

That instantly makes it non-canon to me. Much like the nu-Star Wars, Alien franchise and such.

Well, nothing after Origins is canon anyway.

 

[Child of Malkav]

That wukong ching chong players peak... Entire tyranid hive fleet was playing it that day.

Choina numbah wan!!!