Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[cvv]

If only there were actual quality posts, or even funny ones more often.

Well you're here now, care to contribute with one of those?

 

[Larianshill]

Interest seems pretty muted outside of the dedicated BioWare community. Veilguard's peak is only slightly higher than the Mass Effect Collection.

Still higher than a lot other RPGs, though. Greedfall, Disco Elysium, Outer Worlds. A bit less than DOS2.

 

[The Wall]

Dragon Age: Inquistion, Skyrim and Fallout 4 are probably LAST playable AAA somewhat RPGs from North American Continet.

BGIII is more playable than either of those 3, if you accept you are the old guy at the table of giggling teenagers.

Belgium is American vassal state but ain't on American continent

 

[Brancaleone]

Alt? Are you kidding me? I wouldn’t waste my time with such nonsense. I just call things how I see it. Dealing with such fragile psychs, this naturally creates a lot of butthurt. This board is now barely different from Reddit, or an ign comment section. Just like there, you get mass down voted for pointing out the obvious logical fallacies the retarded user base posts. Only difference is I’m not banned. Yet.

You didn't get downvoted, there's no such thing here. You got, at most, a bucketful of shit.

Smilies are downvotes basically. But yes, it is a board full of shit, on that we agree

No, they are not. I could still read your post, even if it were showered with shit "smilies" on this forum.

That is the big difference between this place and that fucking trash heap that is Reddit. And it's certainly a YOU problem if you personally feel offended by them.

I don’t feel offended, it’s just childish social media garbage akin to Reddit, twitter or Facebook set in the style of an old forum. If only there were actual quality posts, or even funny ones more often. Instead it’s just culture war garbage. On every thread. This game is shit for a million reasons. Mostly it seems due to writing, voice acting, animations, and gameplay. Them shoving some tranny quanari with a terrible redesign and no option to kill them or tell them to fuck off is a problem with writing and art. Did the devs have an agenda? Yes. Would I care if the game was good? Most likely not. I know, this is a controversial take around here.

"So what if there is a big steaming turd floating right in the middle of your bowl of chili-con-carne? Can't you just enjoy the rest of your chili like a normal person? I go to a restaurant to eat and talk about food, and that turd is not food, so please stop talking about it. I'm fine with you discussing the beans, the mincemeat, the sauce, there's plenty to criticize in there. I'm sorry, this is not a coprology seminar, and I'm definitely not interested in your speculations on why the chef put it in there. Can't you simply eat your way around it like a good boy? It smells weird only until you get used to it, then it just smells normal. What do you mean, of the last ten bowls of chili you got, nine had a turd in them? You are just paranoid, that's what you are. All this obsession of yours with turds in your food is just you trying to be edgy."

 

[The Wall]

Instead it’s just culture war garbage. On every thread. This game is shit for a million reasons. Mostly it seems due to writing, voice acting, animations, and gameplay. Them shoving some tranny quanari with a terrible redesign and no option to kill them or tell them to fuck off is a problem with writing and art. Did the devs have an agenda? Yes. Would I care if the game was good? Most likely not. I know, this is a controversial take around here.

In no universe out of infinite number of they/thems, are deranged trannies like Corrine Bushe and Patrick Weekes, DIRECTOR for game and LEAD WRITER able to make quality RPG in vein of Origins or previous RPGs but with a wittle little bit of tranny spice sprinkled over it. It's not that game is shit because of tranny writing. It's because of tranny writing and EVERYTHING THAT WOULD LEAD TO EVER BEING TRANNY WRITING WITH STR8 OUT OF TUMBLR/REDDIT/DISCORD RETARDEDLY HILARIOUS LINGO USED SERIOSLY IN SERIOUS DARK MEDIEVAL FANTASY SETTING

DO YOU AND OTHER IMBECILES WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING, UNDERSTAND AT LEAST THAT NOW AND WHY WE TALK ABOUT CULTURE WAR STUFF! Because it's akin to telling guy with no legs that reason why he's so slow is that his wheelchair has squeky wheels. No. IT'S BECAUSE HE'S A FUCKING CRIPPLE! At least he ain't mentally crippled like trannies that made this "game" and you

 

[Pink Eye]

Now we wait for sales I guess. I'm very interested in what EA expectations were and what their benchmark for a "success" is for Vilguard. The devil is in the details, or, in this case, the sustainability after the initial hype. Dragon's Dogma 2, a game that sold way more than this, struggled with its long term sales after the initial hype died off - for context, there was a huge hype by us DD fans because we expected the sequel to be a better title than the first, the original director was also at the helm so we were pretty hopeful - mainly because he directed DMC 5 which secured confidence. Dragon's Dogma 2 cashed in on all the built up goodwill from us fans for its 2 mil something sales. When people realized just how poorly the game ran, streamlined mechanics, unfinished story, bad implementation of pawn system, etc; the game got negative steam reviews and now sits at 'mixed' steam ratings. DD 2 sales have struggled ever since, see: https://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/data/pdf/explanation/2024/2nd/explanation_2024_2nd_01.pdf

To add to the shit cake, the Director would leave Capcom, post support for DD 2 would be pretty much non-existent, and Capcom would prioritize its resources on Monster Hunter instead.

Now that was a game that sold way, way, more than Veilguard. Had way, way, more players. Plus it had some serious organic support from enthusiastic fans. Vileguard on the other hand relied heavily on manufactured, aggressive, marketing - EA must have paid a lot of money for that, and even then it still didn't scratch the top ten (for context Elden Ring, DD 2, DMC 5, all did) so it's going to be interesting to see the sustainability after the fact - no way they're recouping costs from marketing alone. I personally believe this is a dud but we won't know for sure until months later.

I've seen articles proclaim this launch as *the* 'biggest' for Bioware, but again, as others have noted, this is Bioware's first release on steam on day one. Steam has a bigger potential market for games than the proprietary service EA uses - I'm not saying releasing on steam will give you an immediate hit, but it does help, a lot.

Here's my uneducated dumb dumb opinion: I believe earnestly that the LGTBQ+ elements, the political preaching from the rainbow freaks, did way more harm in instilling confidence than anything else. I think even as a shit RPG with poor game design Vileguard could have secured more sales if it didn't neuture itself with the poor fan service on offer - no sexy companions, terrible ass/boob slider, tranny shit, DEI compromises, etc. I think if you make sexy, attractive, characters you can sell off of that alone: The First Descendant had way more players because of its fan service (said players will drop but it still pulled a crap ton of players because of its attractive character design); another example is the entirety of the Gacha industry which doesn't even have gameplay in some instances, just trading cards with hot waifus, and that industry makes over a billion dollars a year. You can't have a bad game with also bad fan service and expect it to sell as much as your competitors, you got to at least do one thing right.

Another thing I'm looking forward to is the normie perception. Very interested in how normies recieve this title. It's only been a day so far so its in the air if the game will get a super low metacritic score, get negatively review bombed, maybe have juicy controversy, etc. I'm not really hopeful in this front though since normies have gotten even dumber over the years.

 

[GrainWetski]

And also to see some Codexers show their edgy and extremist side, it reminded me of my nephew when he would say some idiotic absurdities and my brother would swear that "I don't know where he learned this" - on the internet no doubt.

Wow.
Alright Mr. Centrist.

The WORST kind. Because they don't offer anything EXCEPT: mathematical average of culturaly acceptable opinion from 10 years ago and today

No great writers, thinkers, scientists or statesmen were normie or centrist. Why? Because to be centrist is to be passive, to be something THAT. HAS.TO. FIT into ever changing background canvas of socially acceptable norms. They don't offer no solutions, no original thoughts, nothing. In programming their value would be: NULL. Not nothing, NULL

"Hello, fellow humans! I'm just like you guys! By the way, don't you think both sides are just as bad? One side is destroying games(and the entire western world looking at the bigger picture) and banning everyone that dissents, the other is merely shitposting on a forum. Basically the same thing!"

Never noticed how the internet centrists only ever have very obvious generic leftist opinions? Really makes you think..

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

Lefties always get super butt hurt about ‘culture wars’ when people don’t mindlessly eat up the propaganda

 

[retarded mouse]

Well, I'm trans, and this game sucks

 

[Xorazm]

Xorazm I think they say stupid shit like that, because modern devs have to fill the void with constant chatter. I guess, it's hard to come up with stuff.

Aye, that's slotting into my thesis that for some reason - probably because they have no inoculations against microtransactions - they're swinging for Gen Z on this one, and one thing thing we've all heard over and over is how easily distracted dem kids is, which might explain the constant nattering. If you can tie that audience together with the existing, profoundly gullible buy-anything DA audience, you've got a captive market ripe for exploitation.

Just a guess, but it sort of amends earlier about why I want to see what they're offering for myself. Most everybody has settled on "woke propaganda, move on," which is to be expected, but I can't shake the sense that EA is playing a longer game of some kind. "Stupid" is what I land on only after I've ruled out "evil," and it's just too weird to me that EA dropped fat stacks on this and the execrable Immortals of Aveum within about a year - both YA romps with childish gameplay, fancy visuals and exhaustingly juvenile sub-Marvelspeak.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Now we wait for sales I guess.

EA never disclosed sales numbers for Inquisition, and they won't disclose now. They will lump it up with other titles and talk about "successful releases" in the next investor call in January (I think).

Same as Inquisition, this one has flopped and they will cover it up. If there was anything to brag about, they would, but there will be nothing and that's how you can tell it flopped.

 

[The Wall]

Interest seems pretty muted outside of the dedicated BioWare community. Veilguard's peak is only slightly higher than the Mass Effect Collection.

Still higher than a lot other RPGs, though. Greedfall=AA SHIT FROM 5 YEARS AGO , Disco Elysium=FIRST TITLE (AND LAST) FROM INDIE STUDIO, Outer Worlds=BIOWARE>OBSIDIAN IN EYES OF NORMIES. A bit less than DOS2.

A bit less then DOS2 tells you everything

 

[Xorazm]

If only there were actual quality posts, or even funny ones more often.

Well you're here now, care to contribute with one of those?

I was going to reply the guy complaining about being disgusted at the sight of vultures picking at a corpse with "You do you, so long as there's flesh on the bones I'll carrion."

Then I thought "....I just spent an hour with Veilguard, I really don't think I should trust my sense of what's amusing for at least a day."

 

[Pink Eye]

EA never disclosed sales numbers for Inquisition, and they won't disclose now. They will lump it up with other titles and talk about "successful releases" in the next investor call in January (I think).

Oh, well that sucks. I didn't know. I don't really play or buy EA games. I think the only triple A publisher I follow and buy games from is Capcom and they usually release reports of their sales.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Now we wait for sales I guess.

EA never disclosed sales numbers for Inquisition, and they won't disclose now. They will lump it up with other titles and talk about "successful releases" in the next investor call in January (I think).

Same as Inquisition, this one has flopped and they will cover it up. If there was anything to brag about, they would, but there will be nothing and that's how you can tell it flopped.

They actually did

https://gameworldobserver.com/2024/09/18/da-inquisition-12m-copies-sold-vs-other-bioware-games

12 million, according to them.

• Dragon Age: Origins — 3.2 million copies sold in three months;
• Dragon Age II — over 2 million copies sold in two months;
• Baldur’s Gate — 2.8 million copies sold as of 2015;
• Baldur’s Gate II — over 2 million copies sold as of 2005;
• Neverwinter Nights — 2.2 million copies sold as of 2007;
• Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic — 3.2 million copies sold as of 2007;
• Jade Empire — 500k copies sold in two months, below expectations;
• Mass Effect — 1.6 million copies sold in six weeks;
• Mass Effect 2 — over 2 million copies shipped in two weeks (ME1 & 2 sold over 7 million units combined as of April 2011);
• Mass Effect 3 — over 6 million copies sold (the entire trilogy sold over 14 million units as of July 2014).

 

[GaelicVigil]

You all realize that this androgynous, anthropomorphic, genderless, demon looking creature they're promoting in modern AAA games lately are all representing Moloch or Baphomet, right? This is the god of Judaism and goes back to 600 - 500 BC before and during the Exile. Robert Sepher has made a ton of videos about this topic. They are pushing their religion on you.

 

[Artyoan]

Dragon's Dogma 2 cashed in on all the built up goodwill from us fans for its 2 mil something sales. When people realized just how poorly the game ran, streamlined mechanics, unfinished story, bad implementation of pawn system, etc; the game got negative steam reviews and now sits at 'mixed' steam ratings. DD 2 sales have struggled ever since

DD2 remains my game of the year, even with the many issues. Though if it doesn't receive any dlc or patches to address the cut content, I'll be butthurt. DD2 was also $70. Veilguard is $60.

Looking to me like the writing is the most detrimental part of Veilguard for the intended audience (not me). Even the people who wanted to love it are getting burned.

 

[I eat frozen vegetables]

The worst part is that everything you did from the first three games results in absolutely nothing in this game. You can't import what you did previously, especially since the last two games allowed you to do so.

 

[Larianshill]

The worst part is that everything you did from the first three games results in absolutely nothing in this game. You can't import what you did previously, especially since the last two games allowed you to do so.

...hey, remember that huge website they've launched ages ago, for importing all your very important decisions into Inquisition? It had that stylistic art for every single one. Guess that one was a waste of time and money.

 

[The Wall]

The worst part is that everything you did from the first three games results in absolutely nothing in this game. You can't import what you did previously, especially since the last two games allowed you to do so.

Good thing that Dragon Age: Awakening is last Dragon Age game. Maybe II if Isabella gives me good blowjob. That's how people should look at this. As fan-fiction from tumblr. Because that's what it exactly is

 

[Pathfinder: WoTR]

You all realize that this androgynous, anthropomorphic, genderless, demon looking creature they're promoting in modern AAA games lately are all representing Moloch or Baphomet, right? This is the god of Judaism and goes back to 600 - 500 BC before and during the Exile. Robert Sepher has made a ton of videos about this topic. They are pushing their religion on you.

I wish. Would be great if games were full of hidden satanic symbolism like 1980s america thought D&D was. But in reality they are just lame and gay.

 

[Necrensha]

You all realize that this androgynous, anthropomorphic, genderless, demon looking creature they're promoting in modern AAA games lately are all representing Moloch or Baphomet, right? This is the god of Judaism and goes back to 600 - 500 BC before and during the Exile. Robert Sepher has made a ton of videos about this topic. They are pushing their religion on you.

You are aware that the are several thousands of years of distance between the creation of Moloch and Baphomet, right?
Moloch is the actual god of the jews, while Baphomet is just french fanfiction.

 

[Fedora Master]

Every fucking major thread we get at least one or two of these "old reg date, low post count" "totally not some butthurt regular's alts" posters that act surprised at the Codex attitude towards woke shit. It's funny but also sad.

 

[Pink Eye]

DD2 was also $70. Veilguard is $60.

Yeah but Veilguard didn't have Denuvo. I don't know if this is self basis at play here, but I think PC gamers are more likely to support games without Denuvo. The fact that Veilguard still didn't pull in as much players as DD 2 did, well, that says a lot.

 

[Skinwalker]

You all realize that this androgynous, anthropomorphic, genderless, demon looking creature they're promoting in modern AAA games lately are all representing Moloch or Baphomet, right?

Yes. I have noticed that they specifically promote anrogynes with unnaturally high cheekbones or prominent eyebrow ridges, a.k.a. the ways demons would be depicted in something like Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

That's the new normal, goyim. Transition.