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Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

Storyfag

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Not buying or playing this but I read the spoilers and to say this is a “return to form” for BioWare should be grounds for execution. Holy fuck is everything in DAV revealed as “the elves did it”?

The Black City, the central mystery of the setting? Merely the prison Solas created for the elf gods and the Blight.
The Blight itself? Created by the elf gods after they tranquilized the Titans from the cut off dreams of the Titans.
The Old Gods? FUCKING ELVES AGAIN! Revealed as Horcruxes for the elf gods.
Also Elves are actually spirits taken mortal form!
Andraste was a Mythal host like Flemeth, there is no Maker.


Guess they realized this might be their last game because wtf would they even do with DA5 given they answered all of the major mysteries of the setting in the gayest way possible.
So people in DA:O being racist against elves were right all along?
Yeah that’s the hilarious bit. All the hatred against elves is justified, they are literally to blame for all the bad stuff that’s happened. Troonguard’s main message is “around elves, watch yourselves”.
So copying Witcher 1:1 again.
 

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They learned from Andromeda, which everyone hated.

Now you can't hate on this game without also hating all the extra diversity.

Pretty standard playbook moves from AAA. We've been seeing this for years, but Purpleguard is such a stinker even it's hardcore defender fanbase is abandoning it. Just look at reddit.

That's an eye-opener. What if that was the reason why EA went "make it as inclusive as you want"? It won't turn shit into gold, but may protect a game from some losses when the leftoids include it as a part of their culture war.
Eye-opener? Were you living under a rock for the past... dunno... generously speaking 5 years? It has been recognised as the standard tactic in all forms of entertainment at least back then. Most proimnently in film and TV, granted, but obviously also in games.
 

Raghar

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I watched a streamer from the beginning, and I saw the species selection screen. Aside of they can't make properly looking dwarf, they also added black as a normally looking character. Frankly aside of that tall species that were invaders, I don't even remember seeing anyone with black skin and curly hair as a commoner on street.
Elves looked so bad he didn't even shown theirs image, he had his face on that area and said "They look REALLY bad, trust me."

Then I saw, there is ONE normally looking person in presets. (white male) And I saw tow menus. One of them was how the character should be called "he, she, they". The second what is called his sex. WTF is this shit?

If they hired me as RPG developer then at least they would need to fire me first before this screen would be permitted.
 

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I think it's possible that after Gaider left Bioware, the clueless EA suit Gary McKay thought something like: Well the last lead writer was gay and he came up with the whole premise of Dragon Age. He was alright. The new "non-binary" guy worked under him, so he can't be that bad. He can't possibly be so totally incompetent as to veer the entire franchise off into a deep delusional gay/trans abyss. I'll just let them do whatever they want, what do I know about this shit anyway?
 

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People who say you can ignore parts of the game with troon propaganda are a little disingenuous.
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People who say you can ignore parts of the game with troon propaganda are a little disingenuous.

Why can't we have a "all fucking niggers must fucking hang" dialogue option, while we're there? I mean, no one's forcing anybody to choose it either...
 

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Not buying or playing this but I read the spoilers and to say this is a “return to form” for BioWare should be grounds for execution. Holy fuck is everything in DAV revealed as “the elves did it”?

The Black City, the central mystery of the setting? Merely the prison Solas created for the elf gods and the Blight.
The Blight itself? Created by the elf gods after they tranquilized the Titans from the cut off dreams of the Titans.
The Old Gods? FUCKING ELVES AGAIN! Revealed as Horcruxes for the elf gods.
Also Elves are actually spirits taken mortal form!
Andraste was a Mythal host like Flemeth, there is no Maker.



My worst fears came to pass, these hacks ruined the best mysteries of the setting. The prophecy that nu bioware would fuck up everything to do with the black city and the maker has happened.
 
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People who say you can ignore parts of the game with troon propaganda are a little disingenuous.
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This is nothing new, if you consider that all Bioware videogames punish you if you're not Lawful Good 100% of the times, with Mass Effect reaching cartoony heights with it actually locking the good ending in 3 behind a 100% paragon playthrough across all games. If you do as much as choosing ONE (1) renegade prompt or dialogue option you effectively cuck yourself out of it. And let's not even mention Baldur's Gate. This is how Bioware does story writing: you're forced into their rollercoaster ride and the ride never ends.
 

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I am actually curious to see the reactions now that some of the reviewers that were denied reviews codes are going through the game. ACG just put out a first impressions post and while he didnt shat all over the game its a pretty negative article.

Source for it
 

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This is nothing new, if you consider that all Bioware videogames punish you if you're not Lawful Good 100% of the times, with Mass Effect reaching cartoony heights with it actually locking the good ending in 3 behind a 100% paragon playthrough across all games. If you do as much as choosing ONE (1) renegade prompt or dialogue option you effectively cuck yourself out of it. And let's not even mention Baldur's Gate. This is how Bioware does story writing: you're forced into their rollercoaster ride and the ride never ends.
BioWare locked the "perfect" ending in ME3 behind a "galactic readiness" bar which required playing a multiplayer.
 
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This is nothing new, if you consider that all Bioware videogames punish you if you're not Lawful Good 100% of the times, with Mass Effect reaching cartoony heights with it actually locking the good ending in 3 behind a 100% paragon playthrough across all games. If you do as much as choosing ONE (1) renegade prompt or dialogue option you effectively cuck yourself out of it. And let's not even mention Baldur's Gate. This is how Bioware does story writing: you're forced into their rollercoaster ride and the ride never ends.
BioWare locked the "perfect" ending in ME3 behind a "galactic readiness" bar which required playing a multiplayer.
And 100% paragon choices. It wasn't just multiplayer either, since you had to rely on a browser game and, iirc, a phone app. At some point, the readiness could only be achieved in single player via a full paragon playthrough. if you didn't had that, you could do multiplayer.
 

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Also since it turns out the elves really did do everything in the setting, by all logic there really should have been a route to go full hitler on elf kind.

Literally everything wrong with the setting is the fault of elves, and yet every past game they acted like butthurt victims.

In retrospective that rapist noble from the city elf origins was right and if i ever play origins again i will save him at every turn whilst leaving the elves in the dungeon to their fate, being tortured to death is too kind a fate for all the evils they have unleashed on the setting.
 

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This is nothing new, if you consider that all Bioware videogames punish you if you're not Lawful Good 100% of the times, with Mass Effect reaching cartoony heights with it actually locking the good ending in 3 behind a 100% paragon playthrough across all games. If you do as much as choosing ONE (1) renegade prompt or dialogue option you effectively cuck yourself out of it. And let's not even mention Baldur's Gate. This is how Bioware does story writing: you're forced into their rollercoaster ride and the ride never ends.
BioWare locked the "perfect" ending in ME3 behind a "galactic readiness" bar which required playing a multiplayer.
And 100% paragon choices. It wasn't just multiplayer either, since you had to rely on a browser game and, iirc, a phone app. At some point, the readiness could only be achieved in single player via a full paragon playthrough. if you didn't had that, you could do multiplayer.

This just isn't true. You could achieve a full paragon score with the occasional renegade choice in every single ME game, and could also get enough war score for the best ending in ME3 without doing full paragon.

There was an issue with the war assets score not being able to reach enough for the perfect ending without getting the points from multiplayer when it was first released, but they patched that to reduce the amount required for the perfect ending so it was achievable with doing multiplayer.

Full renegade lost you too many points IIRC (unless you did the multiplayer) for the best ending, but it wasn't necessary to do full paragon to get it. You could end some quests the renegade way and still get the required war score for the best ending.
 
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This is nothing new, if you consider that all Bioware videogames punish you if you're not Lawful Good 100% of the times, with Mass Effect reaching cartoony heights with it actually locking the good ending in 3 behind a 100% paragon playthrough across all games. If you do as much as choosing ONE (1) renegade prompt or dialogue option you effectively cuck yourself out of it. And let's not even mention Baldur's Gate. This is how Bioware does story writing: you're forced into their rollercoaster ride and the ride never ends.
BioWare locked the "perfect" ending in ME3 behind a "galactic readiness" bar which required playing a multiplayer.
And 100% paragon choices. It wasn't just multiplayer either, since you had to rely on a browser game and, iirc, a phone app. At some point, the readiness could only be achieved in single player via a full paragon playthrough. if you didn't had that, you could do multiplayer.
This is objectively wrong stop talking
 

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