From Software Elden Ring - From Software's new game with writing by GRRM

[Sunri]

The item included in the latest update

• Fixed a bug in the balance adjustment of the boss "Starscourge Radahn" in update 1.03, in which the power of some attacks was unintentionally reduced.

still much weaker than OG Radaman.

 

[Haplo]

Flame of the Redmanes is supposed to deal heavy poise-damage along serious damage - I intend to try it out next.

That fucking thing is totes broken, the poise damage is absurd, you can down most mobs and even bosses for a riposte in two fucking hits. It's gonna get nerfed 100%.

Ech, the poise break is pretty awesome. But its all it has going for it. Fan cone range is pathetic, so is its damage. Even its graphics are... uninspired, to say the least.
Its poise-break is the only advantage - albeit an extremly cool one.
Overall I'd rate it as not nearly as broken as a lot of other stuff.

Overall I'd rate it as not nearly as broken as a lot of other stuff.

It stuns Malenia in two hits, and you can hit her once while she gets up from the riposte, which means that you only need to hit her once to stun her again. You can basically stunlock her for the entire fight (2:56 - 3:16 and 6:51 - 7:12):

Beating Malenia in less than a minute is kinda degenerate.

I understand that you treat Malenia as some kind of holy ultimate boss.

But the fact is that she's a light armored enemy, without high poise. She should be relatively easy to stagger IMO.
It won't work nearly as well on most other bosses.
And this Weapon Art has basically one purpose only - to stagger an enemy at point blank. And you need to time its use well to achieve that.

IMO its weaker then many other strong Weapon Arts. And IMO I think its fine that it does the one thing it is good at well.

 

[Bigg Boss]

I got a little bored after clearing a few boss fights so I tried starting my own fight club.

Spoiler

They did not take to it right away.

But Kaleb Sporeman looks non threatening enough.

 

[Sunri]

Flame of the Redmanes is supposed to deal heavy poise-damage along serious damage - I intend to try it out next.

That fucking thing is totes broken, the poise damage is absurd, you can down most mobs and even bosses for a riposte in two fucking hits. It's gonna get nerfed 100%.

Ech, the poise break is pretty awesome. But its all it has going for it. Fan cone range is pathetic, so is its damage. Even its graphics are... uninspired, to say the least.
Its poise-break is the only advantage - albeit an extremly cool one.
Overall I'd rate it as not nearly as broken as a lot of other stuff.

Overall I'd rate it as not nearly as broken as a lot of other stuff.

It stuns Malenia in two hits, and you can hit her once while she gets up from the riposte, which means that you only need to hit her once to stun her again. You can basically stunlock her for the entire fight (2:56 - 3:16 and 6:51 - 7:12):

Beating Malenia in less than a minute is kinda degenerate.

I understand that you treat Malenia as some kind of holy ultimate boss.

But the fact is that she's a light armored enemy, without high poise. She should be relatively easy to stagger IMO.
It won't work nearly as well on most other bosses.
And this Weapon Art has basically one purpose only - to stagger an enemy at point blank. And you need to time its use well to achieve that.

IMO its weaker then many other strong Weapon Arts. And IMO I think its fine that it does the one thing it is good at well.

I tested it and i had to hit black blade kindred five or six times to stagger him, IMO not good.

 

[NJClaw]

I understand that you treat Malenia as some kind of holy ultimate boss.

But the fact is that she's a light armored enemy, without high poise. She should be relatively easy to stagger IMO.
It won't work nearly as well on most other bosses.
And this Weapon Art has basically one purpose only - to stagger an enemy at point blank. And you need to time its use well to achieve that.

IMO its weaker then many other strong Weapon Arts. And IMO I think its fine that it does the one thing it is good at well.

I agree that weapon arts should be good at what they do, but hopelessly stunlocking an end-game boss is not "being good at what you do", it's just ridiculous. I would be fine with them making it even stronger and able to stagger every boss in a single hit, but they should add a system of increasing resistances like what's already there for blood loss. For the first 2-3 times it staggers in 1 hit, then it goes to 2-3 hits, and then to 4-5 or something like that. Otherwise it's not a tool to play the game, but basically a cheat that allows you to skip certain encounters. I can see why others might have fun playing like this, but in my eyes it's just a gimmick that I tried once and will never use again because it breaks a good chunk of the game.

 

[Bigg Boss]

Only if you are good enough. How many people would be good enough to cheese these bosses if they did not ask their friends how they did it? Also who cares if they beat the boss in a cheap way because they still suck at the game? Idk I haven't even gotten to the hermaphroditic fuck but I hear about them every day haha.

 

[cvv]

I tested it and i had to hit black blade kindred five or six times to stagger him, IMO not good.

Have you actually hit it? The arc range is kindda meagre, sometimes it looks like you've hit something but you haven't.
I haven't tested it on Black Blade yet, killed him before I found out about this AoW and I don't wanna transtition to NG+ yet, but I have never come across anything in the game that survived three hits. Vast majority of mobs and bosses went down in one or two.

 

[Sunri]

I tested it and i had to hit black blade kindred five or six times to stagger him, IMO not good.

Have you actually hit it? The arc range is kindda meagre, sometimes it looks like you've hit something but you haven't.
I haven't tested it on Black Blade yet, killed him before I found out about this AoW and I don't wanna transtition to NG+ yet, but I have never come across anything in the game that survived three hits. Vast majority of mobs and bosses went down in one or two.

I saw dmg numbers, so I guess I hit him I also used it on basic dragon (non boss) in caelid, and he requires 2 hits to stagger which is much better but still critical hit are not that great in this game anyway

 

[NJClaw]

Only if you are good enough. How many people would be good enough to cheese these bosses if they did not ask their friends how they did it? Also who cares if they beat the boss in a cheap way because they still suck at the game? Idk I haven't even gotten to the hermaphroditic fuck but I hear about them every day haha.

It's not about other people, I only care about me (and marginally about Niggerinx and Kruno). I would like the game to give me tools that I can use without feeling like I'm cheating. When I found that ash of war I was like "wow that's cool", but then it quickly became "no wait, I want to actually play the game".

 

[Bigg Boss]

Only if you are good enough. How many people would be good enough to cheese these bosses if they did not ask their friends how they did it? Also who cares if they beat the boss in a cheap way because they still suck at the game? Idk I haven't even gotten to the hermaphroditic fuck but I hear about them every day haha.

It's not about other people, I only care about me (and marginally about Niggerinx and Kruno). I would like the game to give me tools that I can use without feeling like I'm cheating. When I found that ash of war I was like "wow that's cool", but then it quickly became "no wait, I want to actually play the game".

I understand. Thanks for the friendly response. I guess I am the kind of guy that will kill a boss with a crossbow (if I have to) while he runs into a wall so I can turn the game off without being annoyed for the night.

 

[Haplo]

I understand that you treat Malenia as some kind of holy ultimate boss.

But the fact is that she's a light armored enemy, without high poise. She should be relatively easy to stagger IMO.
It won't work nearly as well on most other bosses.
And this Weapon Art has basically one purpose only - to stagger an enemy at point blank. And you need to time its use well to achieve that.

IMO its weaker then many other strong Weapon Arts. And IMO I think its fine that it does the one thing it is good at well.

I agree that weapon arts should be good at what they do, but hopelessly stunlocking an end-game boss is not "being good at what you do", it's just ridiculous. I would be fine with them making it even stronger and able to stagger every boss in a single hit, but they should add a system of increasing resistances like what's already there for blood loss. For the first 2-3 times it staggers in 1 hit, then it goes to 2-3 hits, and then to 4-5 or something like that. Otherwise it's not a tool to play the game, but basically a cheat that allows you to skip certain encounters. I can see why others might have fun playing like this, but in my eyes it's just a gimmick that I tried once and will never use again because it breaks a good chunk of the game.

IMO its very inferior to tools like Bloodhound's Step - which is just invincibility frames instantly on demand plus you're instantly in the enemy face. Which means you're immortal as long as you're careful.

Or Ruins - you can stunlock enemies from safe distance and they cannot hope to even reach you. It will also make humanoids airborne, so you can hit them when they get up. Same old Hoarstomp - was stunlock at range till dead.

I wonder how many Giant Hunts you need to poise-break Malenia - since this is pretty comparable I think.

 

[NJClaw]

IMO its very inferior to tools like Bloodhound's Step - which is just invincibility frames instantly on demand plus you're instantly in the enemy face. Which means you're immortal as long as you're careful.

I don't really think that direct comparisons between the two are meaningful, but I also prefer Bloodhound's Step. To me, the difference between the two is that Bloodhound's Step, while being incredibly powerful, still makes me feel like I'm playing the same game. Sure, it makes the entire game a lot easier because you can avoid attacks with far more lenient windows and can maneuver around enemies in otherwise impossible ways, but you're still reading enemies' attacks, avoiding them, and retaliating. On the other hand, Flame of the Redmanes stops the enemies from doing anything while you just torture them until they die.

I wonder how many Giant Hunts you need to poise-break Malenia - since this is pretty comparable I think.

Giant Hunt is very good against Malenia, but it still requires you to play the game and face the encounter. Since she's a small enemy, it doesn't poise-break her, but it sends her flying with a single hit. However, you need to time your attack perfectly, because if you hit her while she is attacking she will just hyperarmor through it, and if you use it while she is idle she will just dodge it. What this means is that you need to let her do her move, and then can use Giant Hunt to get a window where you can deal massive damage. I used it with two powerstanced colossal swords, and you can melt her very quickly. But you still need to play the game.

Flame of the Redmanes, on the other hand, can be used with closed eyes, since it will stagger her during any attack animation (even the deadly-flurry-of-despair™) and she (like most enemies) can't dodge it with the simple sidestep she uses.

I played the encounter with all three of these weapon arts. The one I had the most fun with was Bloodhound's Step: you can take a lot of risks and zip in and out of her combos, but you still have to fight and defeat her. Using Giant Hunt isn't that different from just hitting her 3 times with a greatsword after she is done with her combos. Flame of the Redmanes just plainly felt like cheating: you only have to avoid the dive-bomb and block through the flying-copies attack, she gets staggered out of every other move.

 

[cvv]

Yeah....Flame of the Redmanes is not as blatant as summoning a Mimic but it still feels like a glitch.

Bloodhound Step is definitely one of the most fun ways to play the game.

 

[Efe]

just tried it on niall. tales 3 casts to stagger.
doesnt do shit when his adds block the flames.
flames animation is longer than actual area of effect.
does it work? yes. is it broken as fuck? dont think so

 

[Kjaska]

Interesting to listen to. Let it run in the background or something.

the pretentious homo with a double-barreled surname strikes again! Five hours of drivel where it takes him ten sentences to explain a single thought that could've been expressed in just one.

clicked into some random spot and heard that he finished god of war without ever using a block button, and because of that he had to turn difficulty down. What a retard.

Don't watch this video.

Noah-Cuckwell Gayways is so bad at anything action. He called the old God of War trilogy "button-mashers". At least he was honest enough to include his own low skill gameplay footage, so a discerning eye can instantly spot it. But boy does his crowd probably lapped that shit up. With people like Cuckwell getting praise for his drivel I can understand why Matthewmatosis quit.

 

[Haplo]

just tried it on niall. tales 3 casts to stagger.
doesnt do shit when his adds block the flames.
flames animation is longer than actual area of effect.
does it work? yes. is it broken as fuck? dont think so

Same with O'neal

 

[Kjaska]

I don't think "it's fantasy" is always an excuse to include any and everything. There's always a balance between the fantastic and the grounded to be found for immersion. Think the reaction to Battlefield 5. BF games were never "simulations" of what a war looks like, people know it, but they felt immersed in it.. but when you include a cripple fighting with her prosthetics on the battlefields of 1940 the immersion breaks.
Also, fantasy elements aren't as fantastic when they are too common. The world should be mysterious and unique, not your character. The dragons are cool because they're rare, powerful, and you're not a dragon. The more grounded the character feels, the more you feel immersed in the struggle against the greater odds of the strange creatures that inhabit a world.

I would take your argument seriously, if Elden Ring was grounded fantasy. If Nepheli wasn't wearing two strips of fur. If I wouldn't encounter 25+ dragons during the game. If rolling INTO an AoE attack wasn't one of the best ways to mitigate the damage. If my ass clad in full plate wouldn't get staggered by a dog bite. If one of the main friendly NPCs wasn't a pair of giant fingers with a grey head of hair.

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

 

[NJClaw]

POV: you created an account on the RPG Codex forum and you just said "RPG GAME"

 

[Silva]

I don't think "it's fantasy" is always an excuse to include any and everything. There's always a balance between the fantastic and the grounded to be found for immersion. Think the reaction to Battlefield 5. BF games were never "simulations" of what a war looks like, people know it, but they felt immersed in it.. but when you include a cripple fighting with her prosthetics on the battlefields of 1940 the immersion breaks.
Also, fantasy elements aren't as fantastic when they are too common. The world should be mysterious and unique, not your character. The dragons are cool because they're rare, powerful, and you're not a dragon. The more grounded the character feels, the more you feel immersed in the struggle against the greater odds of the strange creatures that inhabit a world.

I would take your argument seriously, if Elden Ring was grounded fantasy. If Nepheli wasn't wearing two strips of fur. If I wouldn't encounter 25+ dragons during the game. If rolling INTO an AoE attack wasn't one of the best ways to mitigate the damage. If my ass clad in full plate wouldn't get staggered by a dog bite. If one of the main friendly NPCs wasn't a pair of giant fingers with a grey head of hair.

What's your point? That it's impossible to immerse/suspend disbelief in a fantasy world?

Because if so, I'll point you to Christian catholicism, a piece of fiction that makes Elden Ring feel tame. And it has millions of adherents with no difficulty at all in suspending disbelief for it.

 

[HeatEXTEND]

where a lot of times you roll way later after the key press

You roll on release.

 

[Kjaska]

I don't think "it's fantasy" is always an excuse to include any and everything. There's always a balance between the fantastic and the grounded to be found for immersion. Think the reaction to Battlefield 5. BF games were never "simulations" of what a war looks like, people know it, but they felt immersed in it.. but when you include a cripple fighting with her prosthetics on the battlefields of 1940 the immersion breaks.
Also, fantasy elements aren't as fantastic when they are too common. The world should be mysterious and unique, not your character. The dragons are cool because they're rare, powerful, and you're not a dragon. The more grounded the character feels, the more you feel immersed in the struggle against the greater odds of the strange creatures that inhabit a world.

I would take your argument seriously, if Elden Ring was grounded fantasy. If Nepheli wasn't wearing two strips of fur. If I wouldn't encounter 25+ dragons during the game. If rolling INTO an AoE attack wasn't one of the best ways to mitigate the damage. If my ass clad in full plate wouldn't get staggered by a dog bite. If one of the main friendly NPCs wasn't a pair of giant fingers with a grey head of hair.

What's your point? That it's impossible to immerse/suspend disbelief in a fantasy world?

Because if so, I'll point you to Christian catholicism, a piece of fiction that makes Elden Ring feel tame. And it has millions of adherents with no difficulty at all in suspending disbelief for it.

My point is that if I can defeat the First Eldan Lol and the final boss of the game - who is a literal god - wearing this, then the defence "boobplate and chainmail bikini's aren't realistic" doesn't apply.

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

Nice thighs, a man of culture.

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

So I've finally beat Bloodborne.

Even better than Dark Souls 1. Such a perfect game.

Now I completely understand how it was a "system-seller" for PS4 or "software-seller" for PS Now. Also the only Lovecraftian game which didn't royally fuck everything up. What I don't understand is why the DLC isn't there. Or should I get a console for that? But it has no PS4 Pro/ PS5 update (and DS3 did).

I guess it says something about Elden Ring that halfway through I shrugged my arms and played a different game from start to finish. Last time I did before that was, in addition to Eleonora's +8, upgrade Godskin Peeler with Seppuku so I can jump like a retard and apply bleed per attack.

No fun in a game like that. I don't understand people who autistically dedicate a 20min video to some ridiculous "build" and min-maxing it so the boss goes down in 8 seconds instead of 10.

 

[Kjaska]

How many of the Soulsbornes got a big DLC? In other words, how likely is a big DLC for Elden Ring?