From Software Elden Ring - From Software's new game with writing by GRRM

[Skinwalker]

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Do make sure to visit Rykard's boss room after the fact.

Oh, I already did. Not sure if I should kill her too? Just for peace of mind?

Shabubu and Shit-Eater

Spoiler

Really, those two should have been the same ending. Even the characters of Shabrabra and the Turd-Eater are so similar in their description, that I thought they were the same person. Both endings are also unlocked in the same place (the sewers), and involve largely the same thing: cursing all life in the world with either madness or the omen-curse.

When you have concepts in your storyboard that aren't clearly differentiated, the right thing to do is employ Occam's Razor and combine the two into one. Turd-Eater should have been Shabriri, and his questline (intersecting with the eye-eating girl) should have led you to the Three-Fingers, and the Lord of Chaos ending.

Also, the Frenzied Flame appears to have first been summoned as a Jew and/or Gypsy curse. This game gets so many things right, and all for the wrong reasons.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

She's eating Rykard to bring him back---a snake type deal. Dung Eater is a rogue, though, Chaos and Frenzy is a movement on its own ironically.

 

[Caim]

Oh, I already did. Not sure if I should kill her too? Just for peace of mind?

You can do a side mission where you give her an item, but From fucked up and didn't attach a reward to this. You can attack and kill her if you want, only for her Crucible Knight bodyguard to invade you and kick your ass. If you beat him you get an incantation and can loot Tanith's outfit, neither of which you can get any other way.

Also, the Frenzied Flame appears to have first been summoned as a Jew and/or Gypsy curse. This game gets so many things right, and all for the wrong reasons.

There was supposed to be a way more involved quest line where you help out Kale (the merchant from the start of the game) find the Frenzied Flame and take revenge, but it got cut.

 

[Skinwalker]

Anyway, killed Tanith (and her supremely-parryable bodyguard). No eatings of defeated monsters on my watch.

Also tried killing Hyetta, but sadly, she's invulnerable (you can step right outside the pacifism zone and shoot her with an arrow, but they go through her body).

And of course, I had already killed Shabiri and the loathsome Dung-Eater.

Feels good to kill evil bastards.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

hyeta is not evilllll!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!111!

 

[notpl]

After finally beating Rykard, I can't help but notice that he, Shabubu and Shit-Eater seem to have very similar end-goals: slightly different ways of bringing total damnation, destruction and chaos to the entire world. I assume the Volcano Manor wasn't yet another ending, given that you can't actually join them?

Of course you can join the Volcano manor. What did you think saying you were joining them and subsequently doing a bunch of missions for them meant?

 

[Caim]

hyeta is not evilllll!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!111!

Correct, she's blind.

And once you find her at ligma of the lakes she's dead, a corpse possessed by the Frenzied Flame. Same goes for Shabriri once you meet him in the mountains.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

After finally beating Rykard,...

Someone else didn't bother upgrading the Serpent-Hunter spear, which can be done even before triggering Rykard's appearance.

 

[Skinwalker]

After finally beating Rykard,...

Someone else didn't bother upgrading the Serpent-Hunter spear, which can be done even before triggering Rykard's appearance.

Why would I bother upgrading it?

 

[Skinwalker]

And once you find her at ligma of the lakes she's dead, a corpse possessed by the Frenzied Flame. Same goes for Shabriri once you meet him in the mountains.

Hm, are you sure? I think that she's Irina come back to life as a Tarnished... and somehow was gotten hold of chaos-worshippers to feed her eyes and make her into a maiden who serves Three-Fingers.

 

[Lyric Suite]

And once you find her at ligma of the lakes she's dead, a corpse possessed by the Frenzied Flame. Same goes for Shabriri once you meet him in the mountains.

Hm, are you sure? I think that she's Irina come back to life as a Tarnished... and somehow was gotten hold of chaos-worshippers to feed her eyes and make her into a maiden who serves Three-Fingers.

I think Shabriri offers the clue of what kind of relationship there is between Hyetta and Irina.

 

[notpl]

hyeta is not evilllll!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!111!

Correct, she's blind.

And once you find her at ligma of the lakes she's dead, a corpse possessed by the Frenzied Flame. Same goes for Shabriri once you meet him in the mountains.

What? No she isn't, she's a willing consort, like every waifu - ranni, fia, hyetta, melina, they're all prophets awaiting their respective Lord. I don't believe the frenzied flame even has an ego, I think it's meant to be the death thereof. It drives people mad because on some level they all crave it, the way anyone might intrusively think about jumping when near a great fall.

 

[Skinwalker]

Spoiler

Hm, Fia's questline had a fairly underwhelming ending. She gave me a rune, that's probably going to enable an ending option at the end. Don't think I'll be picking that one, I have no sympathies for pro-undead people and necrophiliacs. Oh, and they did another Alfred scene, now with D's twin raving over how he killed Fia. The set-up for this questline suggested something better than how it actually played out.

Also, Godwyn was a mermaid? What?

 

[Caim]

Also, Godwyn was a mermaid? What?

His soul died but his body did not, and it kept living in death. This grew rampantly out of control with all sorts of unnatural growths sprouting up everywhere. You can find Godwyn's eyes all over the place, including in the piles of corpses that sprout up from the ground where there's a presence of those who live in death, as well as on the basilisk enemies.

Also, right above where you find Godwyn there's an undeep part of the moat of Leyndell. Check the backs of the small crabs there, as well as the big boy (and take note of the status effect it can inflict).

 

[Dhaze]

It's probably a bug that Sorceress Sellen appears at the Witchbane Ruins before the appropriate part of her questline and while still appearing in her initial location in Waypoint Ruins.

A glaring bug that they never fixed in any subsequent updates?

Late reply, but...

Patch 1.02 Calibration 2.02 for Scholar Of The First Sin:

Fixed issue whereby weapon durability was decreased drastically when used on enemy corpses, friendly characters, etc. (Especially apparent for users running the game at 60 fps as the durability decrease rate was linked to the frame rate).

Meaning it took FromSoft over a year after the initial release of Dark Souls 2 before they managed to fix the truly insane durability bug. Before that, they had claimed there was no bug.

It's FromSoft. Bug-wise, anything's possible.

 

[Skinwalker]

Anyway, that thing with Sorceress Sellen wasn't a bug, just the usual vague and weird FS "storynottelling".

Spoiler

When you find the primeval sorcerer in Mount Gelmir and go back to her, Sellen (the one in Waypoint Ruins) admits that she is an astral projection, and that her real body is held prisoner in Witchbane Ruins, and then asks you to go and "release" her, in a manner of speaking. Obviously, it's still completely retarded that the player can discover Sellen's still-living body, but with no ability to ask her about it.

 

[Dhaze]

Anyway, that thing with Sorceress Sellen wasn't a bug, just the usual vague and weird FS "storynottelling".

Spoiler

When you find the primeval sorcerer in Mount Gelmir and go back to her, Sellen (the one in Waypoint Ruins) admits that she is an astral projection, and that her real body is held prisoner in Witchbane Ruins, and then asks you to go and "release" her, in a manner of speaking. Obviously, it's still completely retarded that the player can discover Sellen's still-living body, but with no ability to ask her about it.

Indeed, that part of Sellen's quest is so incredibly ass-backwards it still annoys me over a year later. But I have to say, as far as stupidity goes, my favorite moment still was this:

Spoiler

D. Hunter of the Dead, getting speared to his literal death by a undead, without ever defending himself (it might look like he's engaged in combat, but really he simply recoils from the hit).

Same thing with Kenneth and the demi-humans at Fort Haight, though his case is less egregious than that of D.

 

[NJClaw]

D. Hunter of the Dead, getting speared to his literal death by a undead, without ever defending himself (it might look like he's engaged in combat, but really he simply recoils from the hit).

No no no no, you got it wrong. "Hunter" is his birth name. He's from Texas.

Still can't parry that double swipe. I remember @NJClaw mentioned he prepared for it by just "waiting" for it or some prescient, precog shit like that. I tried it too and ended up attempting to parry a grab attack lul. She has a lot of other parriable attacks i think i give up for now otherwise i'll never kill her

If you're talking about this attack (0:47), it's her fastest move and quite possibly the fastest attack in the entire series. The reaction time required to parry it is almost unfair. The only way I found to deal with it is to constantly stare just above her right shoulder, repeat in my head "she is going to do that", and picture the animation starting. If I stop for even a second, I'm guaranteed to get hit. The only other attack that's hard to parry is the long-winded pirouette (here at 1:50), on which I probably wasted more than 90% of my attempts. I found parrying it to be so inconsistent that I just gave up, which practically isn't that big of a deal since she usually follows up with the quick flurry which is incredibly easy to parry.

 

[Lyric Suite]

That double swipe so far has counted for 90% of my deaths. I can parry it around 20% of the time and dodge it (by dodging twice into her on the left only, no other way. Twice because sometimes she does her second swing on a backward jump, on the left only because her second swing catches you to the right) around 50% of the time.

Yesterday i had her almost at 30% in the second phase and boom, double swipe and i'm dead. I need to take a long break as i'm starting to develop occupational carelessness like i'm dying for stupid shit because i'm barely paying attention anymore lmao. I'll take several days off and try it again as i think more practice in this state is only going to do more harm than good. It's pathetic that it is taking me so long but at the same time i'm too close to give up now.

BTW, i wonder if the controller i'm using (GULIkit No Stick Drift Kingkong 2 Pro) is part of the issue. This may be just copium but i vaguely remember some complaining the controller was kinda slow. Didn't feel any worse than the Xbox controller i was using when i bought it but then nothing in the game requires this level of quick reaction. I'm wondering because i'm literally slamming the roll button at what seems the correct timing as hard as i can and half the time she catches me before the roll happens, sometimes right as the roll animation is actually occurring.

 

[Skinwalker]

Let this be known as the day brave vagabond knight Tarn conquered the Mausoleum of Blood, and slayed wicked Mohg... actually, ended being a very easy fight once I remembered I had Mohg's shackles, a special anti-Mohg Mixed Physic, and Latenna +10.

Didn't expect to find Miquella in this place, least of all inside a cocoon... is she dead? Gideon wants to burn it down just in case, lol.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

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Let this be known as the day brave vagabond knight Tarn conquered the Mausoleum of Blood, and slayed wicked Mohg... actually, ended being a very easy fight once I remembered I had Mohg's shackles, a special anti-Mohg Mixed Physic, and Latenna +10.

Didn't expect to find Miquella in this place, least of all inside a cocoon... is she dead? Gideon wants to burn it down just in case, lol.

Miquella is a dude. Malenia's brother, and he wants to cure her from rot but is unable to do so. Mogh's just a weirdo. While Margitt hides the fact that he's a demon of sorts, Mogh revels on it.

 

[Skinwalker]

Finally finished Ranni's quest... I'm glad I waited, some of those bosses would have been insufferable at lower levels. Not to mention trudging through the Lake of Rot. Yuck!

Of course, it ended with a very weird marriage proposal, and a vague promise of reunion if I become Elden Lord... does this mean I've unlocked another ending? I didn't get a mending rune like with Fia... Oh, and Blaidd finally reappeared, only to become hostile for no reason. I snuck up around him, saw that he's targetable as an enemy, noticed the assassin corpses on the ground, and just left him there guarding the door. You won't make me kill wolf-bro, you cruel fucks!

Doing the math (someone already said there's a total of six endings) I would assume that there is:

1. one default ending that's always available (probably marrying Marika and restoring the status quo? or maybe finding no way to restore the Elden Ring, and thus becoming Lord over a slowly dying land...);
2. Fia's ending (whatever that entails, full tolerance for zombies and necrophiliacs?);
3. Ranni's ending (the world gets an extra moon??);
4. Poop ending (everyone turns into a demon mutant as diarrhea rains from the sky);
5. Chaos ending (everyone dies as chaos flame rains from the sky);

This means there's one more possible ending hiding out there, somewhere. If I had to guess right now, probably something to do with Albinaurics and the Haligtree (although finding Miquella's lifeless body in a cracked cocoon in a completely different place makes me doubt that...)

amazing theory that's probably wrong

I've also had this theory that the reason 5 specific Tarnished are moantioned in the intro, is because each of them unlocks an ending... so far, worked out with Fia and Dung-Eater... but if Ranni gives an ending, then this doesn't fit at all...

If Ranni does not give an ending, then I can totally see the Goldmask creating some sort of mending rune at the end of his quest... and Gideon probably already has one in his pocket (I don't trust him for a second, he'll try to kill me and become Elden Lord at the first opportunity). No idea who is Hoarah Loux, other than Nepheli Loux probably being his biological daughter...

P. S. Plz no spoilerinos, I'm just thinking out loud for the amusement of people in the know (and myself in the future).

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

You're missing Goldmask's ending.

Ranni hints at an honest relationship, like, being actually in love, if you exhaust all dialogue with her doll.

She's basically using you to complete her own plan..

I did the Ranni ending. Seluvis died, but Iji didn't.

The haligtree is there to serve as a safe haven for albinaurics and Malenia, who is more or less their guardian.

 

[Skinwalker]

The snow area is too big, IMO. Too much of it, and it's all kind of samey. Between West Mountaintops, East Mountaintops, and Consecrated Snowfield, it's like the game suddenly teleported you to Skyrim, except Skyrim had more variety in its environments.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

The snow area is too big, IMO. Too much of it, and it's all kind of samey. Between West Mountaintops, East Mountaintops, and Consecrated Snowfield, it's like the game suddenly teleported you to Skyrim, except Skyrim had more variety in its environments.

That area is actually kinda small, but the fact that it's both very open and with the blizzard effect makes it feel like it stretches far and wide.

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