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From Software Elden Ring - From Software's new game with writing by GRRM

processdaemon

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There might be one larva left to find, but I'm not sure. I already used two to test the new things , specially to cast the impenetrable thorn spell, which is hilariously broken and shows the lack of testing. It's really not fun to be forced into a boring build like this just for one fight.

There are 9 in the DLC altogether so you still have a good few left to find if you decide you want to go down the respec route. I agree that it's a bit disappointing that the boss seems to melt ranged builds so easily though.
 

Mauman

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The mimic was useless to me because of all my weapons and gadgets though so I suffered in that regard.
Mimic was nerfed a long time ago. If there's something I liked in base game was the different spirits playing different roles effectivelly. Tycha for melee, Blackflame monk for tanking, Aubinaric bitch for sniping, etc, etc. There are a bunch of useful spirits.
Mimic can be quite good depending on your build, but yeah I'd pick something else if you're like a spellcaster or something.

Personally, for tanking I'd go
Dung Eater

Though I think the new king of the hill summon for both tanking AND damage is probably the secret
sisters
summon that can be acquired in the dlc.
Why not Yoda?
Yoda summon seems more like a meme.

Regardless, it's hard to beat 2 summons that are nearly as tanky as Dung Eater individually that can cause bleed as well.

Granted, you have to jump through some serious hoops (and give up a pretty good sword for it), but they feel like they're the best now.
 

Bloodeyes

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I took my thorn sorcerer to level 200 to get max cast speed on the build. It was a good choice, I love RL 200 characters. They feel so complete.

I've noticed I get hard countered by fast, spammy ranged attacks because of my low poise and that I struggle against evasive ashes. I'll learn how to deal with that though. I may put a soft swap shield on the build or start endure casting in those circumstances. Great build IMO, very, very strong.

 

Mortmal

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Finally made it, and guess how? With another guy using a greatshield and katana who tanked, while I stayed behind spamming the impenetrable thorn spell. There's no strategy involved at all, no skill besides having a guy who knows how to tank and draw aggro. Otherwise, there's zero window of opportunity.
 

H. P. Lovecraft's Cat

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Finally made it, and guess how? With another guy using a greatshield and katana who tanked, while I stayed behind spamming the impenetrable thorn spell. There's no strategy involved at all, no skill besides having a guy who knows how to tank and draw aggro. Otherwise, there's zero window of opportunity.
You cheated instead of coming up with a strategy and using skill, so therefore the game has no strategy or skill. Mmmkay. I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.
 

Mortmal

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Finally made it, and guess how? With another guy using a greatshield and katana who tanked, while I stayed behind spamming the impenetrable thorn spell. There's no strategy involved at all, no skill besides having a guy who knows how to tank and draw aggro. Otherwise, there's zero window of opportunity.
You cheated instead of coming up with a strategy and using skill, so therefore the game has no strategy or skill. Mmmkay. I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.
There's no cheat when only using tools available.
 

Silva

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Lore of the DLC cracked:



Melina is still a mystery to me. Sure, she's probably the Gloom Eyed Queen but how? Did she went against her mother with the power of death and then was beaten in the head by Marika until losing his memories and waking up at the foor of the erdtree like an amnesiac? Questions, questions.
 
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Haven't played since 1.07 and performance now sucks cock for some reason? On the same system I used at launch without any issues. Not clear why as I didn't enable RTX.
Have you checked your settings? It may have enabled itself. It did for me.
Already had a look after reading around, not the culprit. Playable but intermittent bad stutter and the odd short lock up.
 

TheHeroOfTime

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The best thing about the DLC is that they increased the usage of heavy armors and big shields, also they added the equivalent to a Chaos zweihander from Dark souls



We are so back boiz
 

S.torch

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Do people really watch these lore videos with everything giving to them chewed off? 0 interpretation on their part, just eating a poor made summary?
For me half the fun or more of these games is making your own canon and discovering it by yourself.
 

H. P. Lovecraft's Cat

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The best thing about the DLC is that they increased the usage of heavy armors and big shields, also they added the equivalent to a Chaos zweihander from Dark souls



We are so back boiz

Interedasting. I left off at Shadow Keep too. What's the drop rate of this beast? I'd like to try dual weilding two of them.
 

Hell Swarm

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A lot of the lore videos coming out are rushed and objectively wrong. It's funny how desperate they are for youtube clips they will straight up lie about key story elements.

PvP is even worse than it was in the base game. I invaded about 20 times tonight and had 1 "fun" fight while the rest were complete non starters.

New maps are too large and you can't use torrent. I spawned in the opening area with no clue where the host was. How the fuck am I supposed to find the host in an area that large? It would take me 10 minutes to run round it and if he's running another direction I'm fucked. Similar issues constantly. I'd bitch about individual maps but I don't want to spoil things. Invaders need a way to know where the host is if maps are this big and From had TWO YEARS to fix that. They made it even worse with how the maps work in this game.

Gank squads are still a problem but now they often have the upper hand in the map design. There's a lot of verticality in these maps so you can bet 3 guys with ranged weapons are camping the ledges you have to climb or they're waiting in a long hallway you can't move left or right in.

Some of the new weapons are really fun but getting to actually fight is an issue. I had 1 guy who wasn't a gank squad and he used a bunch of warmth spells to make himself unkillable. We ended up dueling with shields only and it was a laugh but there was no way I could kill him in heavy armour with a great shield and constant healing. Other than that I never got to actually dual any one despite spending 3 hours trying.

Ran into a hacker who instantly killed me on spawn. I don't really see how that's fun for him but okay.

From have made the stupidest waste of time in history with the bonfire placement. Many of the bonfires are on the door step to the boss so you load in and immediately load out and this is a constant if you set it to invade any where. I repeatedly got loaded into the castles only to be told the host made it to the boss. I can accept this happens some times but it shouldn't happen in almost half my invasions.

I dressed as a fucking raw chicken trying to kick people to death and I got zero fun out of the whole experience. They made it worse than the base game invasions and they were already miserable because of all the issues listed above and From fixed none of them.
 

Dobkeratops

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Melina is still a mystery to me. Sure, she's probably the Gloom Eyed Queen but how? Did she went against her mother with the power of death and then was beaten in the head by Marika until losing his memories and waking up at the foor of the erdtree like an amnesiac? Questions, questions.
I'm not sure I want to spend 1h 38m of my SotE time watching that, especially since I pride myself on avoiding loretubers entirely. So sorry if I repeat something that's already covered there. But as far as I know the DLC provided nothing on Melina aside from a vague tidbit that she may be Messmer's sister...which...even if true doesn't matter at all. Much like Messmer.

I doubt she is the GEQ herself, being very very convinced that she's Marika's daughter to the extent that she wants to see her suicidal mission through of her own volition and also Marika's propensity for belching out tainted kids like its going out of style. Like Messmer she seems to have some other-godly influence sealed up in one eye and I can believe its GEQ related given the clawmark tattoo that's reminiscent of Gurranq's beast eye stone.
Unfortunately it seems that planned GEQ content in the DLC was repurposed as the Putrescent Knight was labeled knight of the gloam-eyed queen (in Japanese) in the game files. And his striking lack of skin might explain why members of her faction are so eager to get their hands on god skins. But who knows, it's lost to us forever.

There's something of a bizarre theory out there that Marika is the GEQ which has more circumstantial evidence than you'd expect. Especially with the visual simularity of Shaman Village and the godskin's Dominula Village.
 

Dr1f7

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lm@o I thout this gmae was suppose 2 be hard? the boses dont even attack LOL
ez-est game evar

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Ivan

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It is done. Some tips for those still struggling with the final boss of DLC:

-learning his melee moves isn't too bad, die until you get a good feel to see what worth blocking/dodging through
-learn to dodge through the grav attacks
-2nd half- it's better to tank the light attacks than his actual swings. always try to keep your HP up, punish him when the 2nd round begins, he just stands there for a bit
-I contemplated using a ranged summon, but just went with the mimic as I found him to be the tankiest
my favorite part of the fight was learning to dodge/block his melee moves + the grav attacks. my FPS tanked bad in round 2, his AOE attack always sent my FPS to the ~17 range
 

Hell Swarm

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It is done. Some tips for those still struggling with the final boss of DLC:

-learning his melee moves isn't too bad, die until you get a good feel to see what worth blocking/dodging through
-learn to dodge through the grav attacks
-2nd half- it's better to tank the light attacks than his actual swings. always try to keep your HP up, punish him when the 2nd round begins, he just stands there for a bit
-I contemplated using a ranged summon, but just went with the mimic as I found him to be the tankiest
my favorite part of the fight was learning to dodge/block his melee moves + the grav attacks. my FPS tanked bad in round 2, his AOE attack always sent my FPS to the ~17 range
You can parry all of his basic combos and the holy never spawns after if you do in phase 2. He's exploitable as hell.
 

Crayll

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The environmental storytelling is good enough that watching lore videos would cheapen it. Finding the
Shaman Village
and suddenly understanding how the DLC world's and a major character's backstory, several item descriptions, some ghost dialogue, and a few enemy types all tie together is just great.

Melina is still a mystery to me. Sure, she's probably the Gloom Eyed Queen but how? Did she went against her mother with the power of death and then was beaten in the head by Marika until losing his memories and waking up at the foor of the erdtree like an amnesiac? Questions, questions.
There's something of a bizarre theory out there that Marika is the GEQ which has more circumstantial evidence than you'd expect. Especially with the visual simularity of Shaman Village and the godskin's Dominula Village.
It's the only GEQ theory that makes sense to me. We know:

1. The GEQ was an Empyrean. All known Empyreans are children of Marika, other than possibly the GEQ
2. The GEQ and the black flame used the power of the Rune of Death
3. Maliketh defeated the GEQ and sealed the Rune of Death
4. We find Melina destroyed and without a body for an unknown reason. Her eye is sealed with a mark that resembles Maliketh's beast claw. She's almost certainly the daughter of Marika.
5. She can serve as kindling and as shown in the DLC, has had visions of fire. The GEQ is associated with fire through the black flame.
6. In the FF ending, after Maliketh is defeated, she opens her no longer sealed eye and it's a dusky (gloam) grey

Seems most likely Melina was the GEQ, rebelled against Marika for whatever reason, then got her ass kicked into being an amnesiac spirit.
 

Hell Swarm

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It's funny how the absolute shitters who don't play the game want to comment on what the DLC is. Must be really tough getting to the starting area and realizing you're too mentally retarded to find the first real boss.
 

H. P. Lovecraft's Cat

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Fuck that golden hippo bitch. What a terrible fucking camera, couldn't see shit 90% of the time. First boss to legit piss me off even though I only died to it 3 times.
 

Silva

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The environmental storytelling is good enough that watching lore videos would cheapen it. Finding the
Shaman Village
and suddenly understanding how the DLC world's and a major character's backstory, several item descriptions, some ghost dialogue, and a few enemy types all tie together is just great.

Melina is still a mystery to me. Sure, she's probably the Gloom Eyed Queen but how? Did she went against her mother with the power of death and then was beaten in the head by Marika until losing his memories and waking up at the foor of the erdtree like an amnesiac? Questions, questions.
There's something of a bizarre theory out there that Marika is the GEQ which has more circumstantial evidence than you'd expect. Especially with the visual simularity of Shaman Village and the godskin's Dominula Village.
It's the only GEQ theory that makes sense to me. We know:

1. The GEQ was an Empyrean. All known Empyreans are children of Marika, other than possibly the GEQ
2. The GEQ and the black flame used the power of the Rune of Death
3. Maliketh defeated the GEQ and sealed the Rune of Death
4. We find Melina destroyed and without a body for an unknown reason. Her eye is sealed with a mark that resembles Maliketh's beast claw. She's almost certainly the daughter of Marika.
5. She can serve as kindling and as shown in the DLC, has had visions of fire. The GEQ is associated with fire through the black flame.
6. In the FF ending, after Maliketh is defeated, she opens her no longer sealed eye and it's a dusky (gloam) grey

Seems most likely Melina was the GEQ, rebelled against Marika for whatever reason, then got her ass kicked into being an amnesiac spirit.
Good summary. Seems the most logical conclusion.

And nice catch with the Gurrang stone eye being claw-marked in positions that fit Melina's scars. I haven't noticed that before..

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The GEQ could even be an entity inside Melina just like Messmer's base serpent. Who knows.
 

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