ELEX ELEX II - Jax is back

[adddeed]

Nah you're just a moron and i feel obliged to reward you when i come accross your posts.

 

[HoboForEternity]

feels to me like you're bad at reading in general because what exactly is so hard to get about, for example, 'the clerics got booted by the albs'

But it's not explained how at all. Albs were left devastated at the end of Elex and they're basically just a small military camp in E2. How did they destroy the clerics so thoroughly?


Furthermore, I simply dislike that they forced so much of the story on me despite it never being close to what I would have done with my Jax from ELEX. It feels like I'm playing someone else's save.

For the clerics, they mostly self destruct because most of the member found out what calaan is actually is. Some still stand by its philosophy outside of the god, but for most people, if their god is utterly debunked, they are gonna left. Cleric was already in a bad shape in elex 2, the void left but the mass loss of faith and followers left them vulnerable even to weakened alb.

 

[Jinn]

There's plenty of logical reasons for why the different factions do what they do, which become ever more apparent the more you delve into their particular situations through exploration and questing. A lot of things that don't seem to make sense initially are explained the further into the game you get. Despite there being some missteps here and there, this makes for overall good writing and world building for an RPG. Someone unwilling to pay attention to details and allow the game world to slowly reveal itself is going to get frustrated, but this is why we can't have nice things.

 

[Jinn]

Oh, and on the topic of the lack of urgency in regards to the aliens: it has made sense to me so far in Chapter 1 because when the game starts, it's only been a couple of days since it happened. While the aliens appear to be hostile to humanity, no serious skirmishes have really occurred yet between them and the spread out communities (that I've seen or heard about, anyway). Seems like these loose and sparsely populated factions are fairly reasonable to wait a bit and observe what the invaders are doing before they rush out to fight them and possibly hasten their own deaths. And of course they are more invested at that point in their conflicts with one another. Yeah, this part is stupid, particularly from an outside perspective, but you know, people are fucking stupid, so I guess that's why it hasn't really created much of a sense of dissonance for me.

 

[JDR13]

I'm still only at around 40 hours, but I'm really starting to enjoy it now. The exploration is great. It's too easy to make money though. They should have made damaged weapons worthless.

Why do I get the feeling though that I'm going to enjoy The Chronicles of Myrtana: Archolos even more?

 

[Jinn]

Why do I get the feeling though that I'm going to enjoy The Chronicles of Myrtana: Archolos even more?

You get that feeling because you absolutely will enjoy it more. It's the best PB game made since Gothic II, and it wasn't even made by PB. I love ELEX 1 and like ELEX 2, but Chronicles of Myrtana shits all over both of them. I've said it once and I'll say it again: PB would be wise to study what the Chronicles of Myrtana team achieved if they want to do right by their fans.

 

[VonMiskov]

So finally after completing most side quests in Chapter 1 made progress to Chapter 2.

I have to take back some of my complains as to what happened in between E1 and E2. Some things are explained in companion quests mostly Nasty. Like Clerics getting their ass hand over to them because the alien tower landed on their capital but still there is some inconsistency. Whatever...

So now doing mostly main plot which consist on walking with Caja and killing x skyands and Caja licking their carcasses and licking black Elex. And doing companion quests which suck my life out of me. There are two types of them - go and listen to dialogue or go and kill x monsters and listen to some dialogue. And there is just too many of them, on purpose. I have done like infinite number of Crony kill Skyands and listen to Crony scanning and explaining bit by bit with every quest how they function.

Most of the better quests are rudimertary at best like find a spy in Caja entourage. I thought oh yeah a detective plot but in reality go to talk to all the bodyguards standing 2 meters between each other. One says: yeah I deal with Outlaws, walk three meters to Caja, tell her that. Get another quest to kill that guy or whatever. So he magically teleports half the map and sits on a cliff. Go to him and kill him or tell him he fuck up, better better up. End of the quest line.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Like Clerics getting their ass hand over to them because the alien tower landed on their capital

Shit.

That damn tower landed right on my fucking hort.

*canned laughter*

 

[Roguey]

I took a look at the English VA credits and was surprised to see that this was a reverse-Risen; with that one, they had three Big Stars in the first game and then stuck to lesser-knowns for the sequels. Here they used a bunch of nobodies for the first game and then replaced them all with veteran VAs for the sequel. Probably not the wisest use of their budget given how things turned out.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Came across some sleeping angry hobos in an abandoned metro tunnel. While sneaking around it turned out I could pickpocket them.

It also turned out I could pickpocket their weapons, which I did.

Alas, after getting aggro'd the game still spawned lead pipes in their hands, which they proceeded to club me to deff with


Also I don't even with this fucking performance. For the last two hours I had a pretty slick mega-framerate all over the place, made me wish I could have that shit reliably from the beginning. Then some nigga killed me, I loaded last save... aaaaaand back to negative FPS it goes. And this time it didn't get fixed after restarts and shadow resets, which normally helps, so I guess only rebooting will do.

Also2, after helping Nyra steal some sikrit outlaw plans, I told her to go back to the bastion, and she's nowhere to be found. I sure hope she didn't bug herself out of existence, and if she did, I sure hope she isn't plot critical.

 

[lukaszek]

Also2, after helping Nyra steal some sikrit outlaw plans, I told her to go back to the bastion, and she's nowhere to be found. I sure hope she didn't bug herself out of existence, and if she did, I sure hope she isn't plot critical.

its going to be a common issue with companions getting stuck out there in the world. Nyra is annoying since she doesnt get proper quest entry, so no quest marker.
And here I thought that something is wrong with English translation again. Nyra actually returns to her home in albs base each time. Only after you are done with all her plans quests she will come to bastion and get proper quest entry.

FYI outlaw guy will get stuck in such way near metro station. Others sometimes just dont return to base when ordered

 

[rusty_shackleford]

if you sleep in a bed they should show up, unless it's a bug they introduced

 

[VonMiskov]

They sometimes stay in random places but have markers on map if you have quests associated with them. And sometimes they just don't teleport but walk to Bastion. I had so with Crony.

Final act but I'm struggling. It's just a mess. Two quest in act 4 that require you to kill around 40 enemies in couple locations. So much bad writing. I had to alliance Bastion with Morkons because reasons (and them being contradictory written doesn't help either) with talks that I and them have to make a ceasefire (?) and in the literal next quest I have to kill their purge party and I don't even...
I'm talking with a NPC about alliance and in one sentence he says he don't know me and in another he speaks about our shared past.
Magnets are magic.

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

Some more ways in which ELEX 2 combat shits all over ELEX combat:

Shield mechanics are way better in several ways:
- Shields no longer protect from 100% damage in all cases, they start at 40% and then improve with skill/quality
- Holding up the shield kills all stamina regen, incentivizing timed blocking instead of just mindless block holding (in ELEX, stamina regen was lowered while holding up the shield, but not stopped altogether)
- There is a Roman-like thrusting attack available while holding the shield up, which is very efficient and fast, so you can combine a shield block with that attack before lowering it to recover stamina
- side dodging while a shield is equipped does a step dodge animation instead of a roll, which is way better

 

[JDR13]

Speaking of companion quests, the difficulty is all over the place. I had done quests for Caja, CRONY, and Falk, and they were all pretty easy. Today I attempted the first quest for Fox where you confront some Outlaws, and their leader took me out with one hit. I wish there was some way to tell before accepting the quests.

 

[Cryomancer]

Why PB don't make more games with great spell variety? Look how many water magic spells are available for mages in Gothic 3 and in the expansion of Gothic 2. Now an Alb cryomancer

• Blizzard
• Chain Lightning
• Heal
• Ice Fist

 

[JDR13]

Why PB don't make more games with great spell variety? Look how many water magic spells are available for mages in Gothic 3 and in the expansion of Gothic 2. Now an Alb cryomancer

• Blizzard
• Chain Lightning
• Heal
• Ice Fist

What's worse is what they did to the Clerics. They had some cool abilites in Elex 1. That faction seems like an afterthought in this game.

 

[Antigoon]

Also2, after helping Nyra steal some sikrit outlaw plans, I told her to go back to the bastion, and she's nowhere to be found. I sure hope she didn't bug herself out of existence, and if she did, I sure hope she isn't plot critical.

I had the same issue, she was back at the Depot. Either way, she isn't plot critical.

 

[vota DC]

Speaking of companion quests, the difficulty is all over the place. I had done quests for Caja, CRONY, and Falk, and they were all pretty easy. Today I attempted the first quest for Fox where you confront some Outlaws, and their leader took me out with one hit. I wish there was some way to tell before accepting the quests.

The first of Fox you have to recover a seed from Albs, I think It Is easier than the first of Caja if you are melee....It Is full of flying drones and I haven't the Jetpack upgraded to melee in air so I kill the 3 foot robots but Caja does the rest.

 

[VonMiskov]

Finished it. What a piece of shit game it was.

If you want to play it, do only side quests maybe finish chapter one. The main plot from chapter two to chapter five are almost constant quests to kill X enemies. That are mostly damage sponges, just kill and kill and kill the same types of enemies in different locations. The writing was abysmal. It was like playing a B sci-fi movie from Asylum. The shit that SyFy produces.

Spoiler about the ending:

Spoiler

You go to last former. Kill a boss, nothing changes literaly nothing. You don't stop the Skyands, you just probably stop the terraforming. I don't know because it is told Skyands are staying. Jax and Adam are chosen ones with great will power. Now the anomaly is coming, you must prepare but no one gives a fuck. You even have an epilogue were people tell you they don't give a fuck. Your son dies and Caja is just you killed the boss - you stud, you. Now Mana and Berserkers are the problems. Why? Dunno. German gov and Europe Union will give a million euro for Elex 3. I don't even... It doesn't really has a conclusion. You killed a boss. You didn't even saved the world, really.

Fuck Piranha Bytes.

 

[vota DC]

Adam says to join a faction (he prefers one of the superpower than the two minor powers) to regain the ancient power.
But Jax says that factions are dumb and fight each other....I mean shouldn't the most logical thing to empty all factions to make their members join 6th Power?

 

[JDR13]

Speaking of companion quests, the difficulty is all over the place. I had done quests for Caja, CRONY, and Falk, and they were all pretty easy. Today I attempted the first quest for Fox where you confront some Outlaws, and their leader took me out with one hit. I wish there was some way to tell before accepting the quests.

The first of Fox you have to recover a seed from Albs, I think It Is easier than the first of Caja if you are melee....It Is full of flying drones and I haven't the Jetpack upgraded to melee in air so I kill the 3 foot robots but Caja does the rest.

My mistake. It's his second quest not the first. The difficulty spike is pretty extreme compared to the first one.

 

[Tyrion8338]

Guys, is still worthy play ELEX 1 or just jump to 2?

Elex 1 is 75% of in gog, and I'm not having much time because architecture finals.

Elex 1 gave me a lot of fun when I played it back when it launched so I would say it must be worth to play nowdays too, it would help you to better undestand elex 2 world but it isnt really required.

Imo all piranha bytes games since gothic 3 are still worth playing nowdays (games before gothic 3 too if you can stomach the ancient graphics).

For me only risen 3 was rather bad, other piranha games gave me a lot of entertainment.

 

[Ismaul]

Finished it. What a piece of shit game it was.

You finished it?

So either you did so because it was good enough, or you're a retard for playing shit you don't like till the end. Two reasons to doubt your conclusions.

 

[VonMiskov]

You finished it?

So either you did so because it was good enough, or you're a retard for playing shit you don't like till the end. Two reasons to doubt your conclusions.

I are retarded but at least I played to the end and can say it has little redeeming qualities contratry to for example WAB's Mick who played it for then hours of which 3 he spent on looking for missing weapon packs and said it's junk but he loves it