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ELEX ELEX II - Jax is back

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WHO IS THIS IMPOSTER AND WHAT HAVE THEY DONE WITH THE REAL JAX?!?!
 

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Decided to give it a go. Playing it right now.

My God what the fuck. Why is Jax's new voice actor so terrible? Why does Jax look even worse than the first game?
Sadly he got stage 4 cancer. He ate the purple stuff when he was told not to.
 

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Finished this couple weeks ago.

At first, I could not get into it. I played about an hour a month for six months. Then I got to a larger settlement, got some quests going and it finally clicked. And for the next 50 hours or so, I was convinced I would give Elex 2 at least 7 or possibly 8/10, because I was having a blast, despite some annoyances. The handcrafted world was there, fun questing, great exploration with a jetpack, fun character progression. Good times!

But then chapter 3 and chapter 4 came, and…yeah. Piranha Bytes have always sucked at latter half of their games - always, even going back to Gothic 1 with its stupid boring dungeon - but Elex 2 takes the shit cake.
Basically all the companion missions are copy pasted laziness, and most of the ending quests are “go to X and kill 50 enemies”.

I expect this kind of trash in JRPGs. I do not expect it, nor want it, in WRPGs.

The only saving grace of the last two chapters is that with difficulty set to “story”, enemies can be dispatched fairly quickly and those two chapters combined took me some 15 hours. But it was still 15 hours too many, given their absence of quality.

Then there is the utterly bizzare writing, where I felt like half the dialogue flat out made no sense.
In the end…I am still glad I played it, and 50 hours of good fun is nothing to scoff at, but Elex 2 IS Piranha’s weakest game ever made.

Archolos: Chronicles of Myrtana team thoroughly schooled Piranha Bytes on how to make their own type of game.
 

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Elex 2 IS Piranha’s weakest game ever made
Sorry but not even close. Risen 2 and 3 are worse, especially 3, and although Gothic 3 shows the potential of a Top 10 RPG of all times the final product is what it is - a broken, unfinished mess beyond fixing.

G2 > G1 > R1 > E1 > E2 > R2 > G3 > R3

(I really believe G3 is still better than R3, even in its tragic, half-finished state).
 

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Sorry but not even close. Risen 2 and 3 are worse, especially 3,
Well, agree to disagree. Risen 2 and 3 are no masterpieces but I found them generally competent and fun to play from start to end. Not the case with Elex 2.
 

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Anyone claiming Elex II is PB's worst game obviously hasn't played Gothic 3.

As far as Elex II vs Risen 2 & 3, I'd say it's a toss-up. That probably comes down to which setting you like more. Elex II and Risen 3 are similar in that the last 20% or so of the game is an immensely boring slog.
 

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Sorry but not even close. Risen 2 and 3 are worse, especially 3,
Well, agree to disagree. Risen 2 and 3 are no masterpieces but I found them generally competent and fun to play from start to end. Not the case with Elex 2.

No way man. EEEEEELIX 2 is at least mostly bug free in that you don't fall through the floor half the time. And it's almost recognisable as an RPG. Risen 3 is just a steaming pile of dumbed down, streamlined shit.
 
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As far as Elex II vs Risen 2 & 3, I'd say it's a toss-up.
Eh, dunno.
Say what you want about Risen 2 and 3, but at least it was a time where PB was sparing us the retarded de-centered third person camera.
Fuck that shit into the abysses of hell.

But yeah, I'd be incline to agree that Gothic 3 was their fucking worse by a landslide.
It's still terrible years later and after all the updating and modding, but at launch in particular it was a borderline fraud. Basically unplayable on any computer, awfully designed from top to end and freaking HIDEOUS in terms of art direction.
 

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Elex II and Risen 3 are similar in that the last 20% or so of the game is an immensely boring slog.

They are also similar in that Elex 2 shamelessly recycles the latter's story.
 

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Also, LOL@ any faggets who complained about areas of ELEX 1 that were "not properly fleshed out" :lol:

In 2, where the Hort is supposed to be, is like it never existed. Sure, it's supposed to be consumed by the alien tower but where's the ruins, the wreckage? It's just virgin unspoilt land that's never been touched, with a giant tower in the middle. Not a single piece of metal lying around from what was the biggest settlement in the game. The bridge just stops midway like an unfinished highway.
 
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So what are the sales figures? Was Elex II a loss or a benefit?
I'd be surprised if the game wasn't a net loss.
There was hardly any talk about the game anywhere, even compared to the first one.

And what little was out there wasn't exactly flattering, anyway.

I used to think PB was often treated unfairly by critics and a more casual audience, but as the time goes I'm starting to lean more and more on the "Eh, fuck them" side of thing.
They are clearly not putting much effort in learning from past mistakes or improving their output over time.
 

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So what are the sales figures? Was Elex II a loss or a benefit?
I'd be surprised if the game wasn't a net loss.
Might not have been. Game is a naked asset flip of E1, just like Risen 3 was cobbled together from Risen 2 assets. It even uses huge chunks of the original map. All that cuts down costs a lot.

Plus there are still armies of PB fans out there, especially in Germany and Eastern Yuros.
 

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PB is that guy from school you knew that seemed to often get bad grades and then suddenly ace a test that everyone else failed. It's really hard to understand what's going on with them.
 
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PB is that guy from school you knew that seemed to often get bad grades and then suddenly ace a test that everyone else failed. It's really hard to understand what's going on with them.
I thought it was more like that guy that everyone thought would become a genius or the CEO of some big tech company and then 15 years later turns out to be the homeless alcoholic begging for few coins in front of a grocery store.
 

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Elex II and Risen 3 are similar in that the last 20% or so of the game is an immensely boring slog.

They are also similar in that Elex 2 shamelessly recycles the latter's story.
In what way? I haven't played Risen 3 since release so maybe I'm forgetting something here.
 

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