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It has come to my attention that no matter how retarded Codexers are, and what pieces of shit they defend, they will never be Reddit-retarded :lol:

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>>I bought ELEX 2 thinking it was the first one.
>>ELEX 2
>>first one
In his defense, it is the first one to be second
 

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It has come to my attention that no matter how retarded Codexers are, and what pieces of shit they defend, they will never be Reddit-retarded :lol:

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>>I bought ELEX 2 thinking it was the first one.
>>ELEX 2
>>first one
There are people who believe Fallout 3 was the first, so it doesn't surprise me.
I mean... it's kinda fair to be at least sceptical, looking at some games like
  • Yakuza 0
  • I can't even begin to figure out the mess that is the numbering of the first few Final Fantasy entries.
  • Resident evil has also some strange variations in numbering (including a "zero" entry)
  • Mega Man Zero. Mega Man X. (I'm kidding, I know it's not the number 10)
 

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It has come to my attention that no matter how retarded Codexers are, and what pieces of shit they defend, they will never be Reddit-retarded

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>>I bought ELEX 2 thinking it was the first one.
>>ELEX 2
>>first one
There are people who believe Fallout 3 was the first, so it doesn't surprise me.
I mean... it's kinda fair to be at least sceptical, looking at some games like
  • Yakuza 0
  • I can't even begin to figure out the mess that is the numbering of the first few Final Fantasy entries.
  • Resident evil has also some strange variations in numbering (including a "zero" entry)
  • Mega Man Zero. Mega Man X. (I'm kidding, I know it's not the number 10)
Nah that's just straight up dumb as fuck.

I could (almost) forgive millennial losers for thinking Doom 2016 was "the original", because it's just called "Doom" and they can't remember a time before Facebergs, let alone the 90s.

But if there's a number in the name, there's no excuse.
 

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Most prestigious solution is not bothering with numbers at all.

Like Tomb Raider and it's modern restart Tomb Raider. God of War being reimagined as God of War.

And the best of all, Lords of the Fallen followed by it's direct sequel Lords of the Fallen.
 

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At this point it's better if PB fades away. I would put more faith in the Gothic remake being good than anything PB makes in the future.
 
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I can't even begin to figure out the mess that is the numbering of the first few Final Fantasy entries.
West only got 1, 4 and 6 so they renamed 4 as 2 and 6 as 3. In retrospect it would be less confusing to add a subtitle, but marketing team probably suggested numbers. At least we didn't get the sheer insanity of Vega/Balrog/M.Bison becoming M.Bison/Vega/Balrog.

Yakuza 0 is a prequel to 1 as the name suggests, but it could be confused for a remaster or "ultimate" edition using "zero" because it's a cool word.
 
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Most prestigious solution is not bothering with numbers at all.

Like Tomb Raider and it's modern restart Tomb Raider. God of War being reimagined as God of War.

And the best of all, Lords of the Fallen followed by it's direct sequel Lords of the Fallen.
My favourite is Prince of Persia 7 aka Prince of Persia.
 

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Ok, finally finished, did everything, join Zerkers, 62 hours in total.

As I suspected, all the reservations some of our prestigious residents voiced are a bunk. The game is in no way, shape or form dramatically different/worse than Elex 1. In fact the biggest problem for me was the feeling I'm playing the exact same PB game I've been playing for the last 15 years.

I've never thought I'd say this...but I think I'm getting tired of the PB formula. You have a few companions you can recruit or run around with, you can join a faction, get their armor, rise in their ranks. There are learning points and teachers and and a tedious, boring grindfest of an endgame. Twenty goddamn years of PB cooking different soups based on the same fucking recipe.

Elex 2 is just more of Elex 1. The combat is a bit different, you have parries and ripostes now instead of combos, and you can shove your sword in mobs' asses from behind for astronomical damage which I utilized liberally. You can float and swing your sword now too. I guess it was a bit better than E1 combat? Dunno. After becoming a souls-likes fiend PB combat doesn't impress me anymore.

Graphix, sound, music....everything felt a bit worse than the first game. As if PB themselves are bored with their shit too and simply don't give as many fucks anymore as they used to. So yeah, everything is a tiny bit uglier but it's not like Elex 1 could've won any art design awards in the first place.

The best thing about the game was the new jetpack, more specifically the fact you can now jet forward. It might even be one of my favourite features in any RPG ever. I'd fuck it and marry it if I could.

The writing and story is the PB standard - very German, very functional, something any of us could write with a little editorial help. But we don't play PB games for the story and writing, do we.

Eh...so I'm not sure imma buy whatever PB is cooking next. And I've always considered myself a hardcore PB fan. But the standard PB fare just doesn't cut it anymore.

I think Kingdom Come showed the future of this style of RPG - real writing with real characters and real quests and real crime system and real NPC routines. I didn't like the KCD combat and there are no factions there but everything else is just miles above PB now. Pankratz and company got stuck in the past and they seem to be fresh out of fucks to give about it.

Embracer should let Pankratz go pursue his rock star career fulltime and hand over the Gothic IP to Warhorse. That's the only way to save it.
I know where you're coming from but since I skipped the Risen games, I think I can tolerate one or two more elexes.
 

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Yeah your AMAZEBALLS forward jetpack is irrelevant 80% of the time as the game has a great fast travel system (something PB actually does WELL) and the rest of the time you're on one of the 5773322664337 tour guide sim quests where you have to stay close to some slowass NPC.
 

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You could rush for it but you'll lose some quests from all sides which are the best thing game has to offer. Also Cleric and Alb magic effects are really horrendus and you'll go blind after using them a few times.
Also there are only 2 spells, ice bolt and blizzard. They also got chain lightning. Dunno what they were thinking but spells in first game are better even if they were only good as support.
 

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Just compare :
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Talking about magic in Elex 2, I will be honest. IS servisable but not great.

Gothic 1 had 20 spells. More than Elex 2 for all factions and this counting only runes. There are also unique scrolls with unique effects in G1. As an Alb in E2, I have :
  • Ice fist, an melee ice attack which has less range than some melee weapons
  • AoE few meters charge attack
  • Blizzard which is an AoE around the caster for few seconds which takes a lot of "elex/mana"
  • Chain lightning, melee range chargin spell which eats my mana a lot
  • Heal
And that is it. Not a single long range spell. This seems bad? But is not. You can using your jetpack get close to enemies pretty quickly and for flying enemies, you can use your energy rifle. USing anything other than basic punch destroys your "blue bar" and you can replenishes it only by "drinking" elex from corpses. No potions nor anything similar, nor resting restores this bar.

That makes playing as an Alb pure mage impossible.

But some spells can be quite powerful

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And I've heard that Berserkers are even better.

But since I played as a Berserker in the first game, decided to be an Alb and sadly seems like Berserkers are now restricted to fire only and btw, ice fist is worthless in E1. I used far more my bow till I got my second spell which was poison. Poison was so deadly, I was deleting high level mobs.
 

ERYFKRAD

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Just compare :
H8rHhQz.png

iPCQrHg.png

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Talking about magic in Elex 2, I will be honest. IS servisable but not great.

Gothic 1 had 20 spells. More than Elex 2 for all factions and this counting only runes. There are also unique scrolls with unique effects in G1. As an Alb in E2, I have :
  • Ice fist, an melee ice attack which has less range than some melee weapons
  • AoE few meters charge attack
  • Blizzard which is an AoE around the caster for few seconds which takes a lot of "elex/mana"
  • Chain lightning, melee range chargin spell which eats my mana a lot
  • Heal
And that is it. Not a single long range spell. This seems bad? But is not. You can using your jetpack get close to enemies pretty quickly and for flying enemies, you can use your energy rifle. USing anything other than basic punch destroys your "blue bar" and you can replenishes it only by "drinking" elex from corpses. No potions nor anything similar, nor resting restores this bar.

That makes playing as an Alb pure mage impossible.

But some spells can be quite powerful

VnNSR2s.png


And I've heard that Berserkers are even better.

But since I played as a Berserker in the first game, decided to be an Alb and sadly seems like Berserkers are now restricted to fire only and btw, ice fist is worthless in E1. I used far more my bow till I got my second spell which was poison. Poison was so deadly, I was deleting high level mobs.
Lmao look at you having to reach and compare a six year old Guts to a fifteen year old Twinkie
 

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Dark Schneider at 6 yo would be able to turn adult Guts with Berserk armor and dragonslayer into dust without even using his stronger spells and even if somehow he could't use magic, he would win physically alone.


How?

Also, other question.

Is truth that PB wanna launch the DLC around now? Not only they had the """genial""" idea of launching an open world third person ARPG around the same time of Elden Ring but will gonna also do the same with the DLC???

Other question. Why they can't make more great water/cold magic? This was so great in G3. Sadly the new alb spells are very lackluster and in e1, ice fist is by far the worst magical ""weapon""
 

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I don't remember them announcing any expansion or DLC, so I doubt there'll be anything coming soon. Not sure what PB is working on right now.

And regarding magic: I think they neglected it, because they probably couldn't convince themselves it's important for a scifi game...
 

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