Old One
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Have you played any others since then?
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ELEX ELEX RELEASE THREAD
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Have you played any others since then?
Billi205
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Nope! I've only been playing XCOM 2 and two other roguelike game like Nova Drift in small doses.
I bought Horizontal Dawn 2 Xmas ago after I finished ELEX. But haven't bothered to play it
Old One
Arcane
Piranha Bytes has some really good old games in a similar style, most notably Gothic and Gothic 2. You might enjoy those.
Billi205
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Yeah, I did look them up but I'm a sucker for eye candies so these old Gothic1/2 are not for me
On that note, if ELEX 2 indeed looks worse like others already mentioned in this thread or the other, I'm going for a refund! Or most likely just not gonna play it on first day until some patches are in
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Suck it up and play. Graphics ain't everything, art style is.
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I think the controls in Gothic 1 might be a bigger obstacle than the graphics. It almost feels like the controls were designed with the SNES gamepad in mind.
Though after you get used to them they feel good and you want to setup the sequel to use the Gothic 1 controls too.
Though after you get used to them they feel good and you want to setup the sequel to use the Gothic 1 controls too.
Cpt. Dallas
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There is no such thing as a 'brand new' blowjob from Sasha Grey.
Billi205
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I will suck up all the decline ratings for sure as I can't cope with the old graphics. I tried. However I do agree that a game with a cohesive and consistent art style can go a long way, for years to come.
And where is the game!? I feel slightly jaded. This is my 2nd pre-order games ( the 1st being Guild Wars 2 many years ago!) and it doesn't even show up in my Steam library
I know they didn't say 1st of March on Earth and not in Magaland Elex but still...
Peachcurl
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And where is the game!? I feel slightly jaded. This is my 2nd pre-order games ( the 1st being Guild Wars 2 many years ago!) and it doesn't even show up in my Steam library
I know they didn't say 1st of March on Earth and not in Magaland Elex but still...
Game's not live on GOG either
And I just went home a bit early, to start the download.
Damn, this game has a lot of dialogue.
Cpt. Dallas
Learned
They've gone too far the other way for '2'. That and over the top 'cussin. I've done at least 3 quests where urination or defecation is front and center. One poop joke is funny. 3 and you're retarded.
onemananadhisdroid
Augur
I played Elex The First far longer than some other unnamed open world game which sort of witcher senses itself (when it's not playing another goddamn bloody cutscene).
But, at some point, I stopped playing. I think this vintage post goes a bit into it all, as that was the tipping point by which the game gradually degressed for me. Once the challenge was gone, and the late-game sent me to places I'd already seen many times over, I stopped playing. Thus, I never actually finished Elex I. I still may one day get back to it.
It also occured to me that what I liked about Elex I was pretty much a given in open world games some twenty years ago: that you're not being guided and baby-sitted this much that the thing blatantly plays itself.
-I was never particularly hugely fond of the game's world though.
-Nor the narrative, for that matter.
In those regards, aforementioned unnamed open world game which sort of witcher senses itself (when it's not playing another goddamn cutscene) fares a tad better.
In particular the first realization is intriguing, and I think it's where PB went wrong, considering that exploration in the original Gothics was/is such a joy. Whatever was iffy about the Risens (never played any of them except some demos), with Elex they're doing what even blockbuster studios on occasion appear to struggle with (hence lots of filler stuff even in Bioware/Bethsoft games, let alone Ubi et all): Building huge ass worlds and then trying to fill them with content.
Gothic (1) was basically Ultima 9, a 3D simulation of a world, except arguably more successful. It also wasn't a huge ass world. It was adequate in size. What set it apart wasn't so much the size, but the detail. Detailed NPC schedules, each NPC being more or less unique, a landscape you could actually travel and map by its unique landmarks. Had PB gone down this route and really nailed their expertise -- maybe by now they would have blown Warren Spector's dream project out of the water and carved their own niche truly. But then Hoge et all have also long left the building already, so the company and its design ethos may be very different from back then from the ground-up.
Somebody please forward this to Pankratz, or volles Pfund aufs Maul.
A Love Letter to GOTHIC's Open World Design - YouTube
But, at some point, I stopped playing. I think this vintage post goes a bit into it all, as that was the tipping point by which the game gradually degressed for me. Once the challenge was gone, and the late-game sent me to places I'd already seen many times over, I stopped playing. Thus, I never actually finished Elex I. I still may one day get back to it.
It also occured to me that what I liked about Elex I was pretty much a given in open world games some twenty years ago: that you're not being guided and baby-sitted this much that the thing blatantly plays itself.
-I was never particularly hugely fond of the game's world though.
-Nor the narrative, for that matter.
In those regards, aforementioned unnamed open world game which sort of witcher senses itself (when it's not playing another goddamn cutscene) fares a tad better.
In particular the first realization is intriguing, and I think it's where PB went wrong, considering that exploration in the original Gothics was/is such a joy. Whatever was iffy about the Risens (never played any of them except some demos), with Elex they're doing what even blockbuster studios on occasion appear to struggle with (hence lots of filler stuff even in Bioware/Bethsoft games, let alone Ubi et all): Building huge ass worlds and then trying to fill them with content.
Gothic (1) was basically Ultima 9, a 3D simulation of a world, except arguably more successful. It also wasn't a huge ass world. It was adequate in size. What set it apart wasn't so much the size, but the detail. Detailed NPC schedules, each NPC being more or less unique, a landscape you could actually travel and map by its unique landmarks. Had PB gone down this route and really nailed their expertise -- maybe by now they would have blown Warren Spector's dream project out of the water and carved their own niche truly. But then Hoge et all have also long left the building already, so the company and its design ethos may be very different from back then from the ground-up.
Somebody please forward this to Pankratz, or volles Pfund aufs Maul.
A Love Letter to GOTHIC's Open World Design - YouTube
Can anyone vouch for the accuracy of this Steam guide regarding the ELEX skill mechanics, or is there another one out there that's verifiably useful in terms of understanding exactly what each skill does? When the game came out I remember many comments (and this prestigious magazine's own review) saying that the mechanics were opaque which is one reason I held off on playing, but I thought they might have been figured out by now.
ELEXmakesMeHard
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It's hard to fathom the drop in quality between ELEX and ELEX 2. I bet Björn Pankratz took the "vaccines". No going back for them now.
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Does this video have any spoilers for ELEX 2? I haven't played the latter yet (lack of time).
GloomFrost
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If you don't have much time then you are better off skipping Elex 2 all together dude.
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I'll have time eventually and liked the first one. I haven't followed the discussion for ELEX 2 (due to trying to avoid spoilers), do people who liked the first game dislike the second?
GloomFrost
Arcane
Its not even about "disliking" it. Elex 2 is still a massive open world RPG with SOME interesting quests, its just it feels less like a Pirahnia Bytes game and more like a Ubisoft sandbox game. It only my opinion btw, that's an impression I got after about 25 hours and then i just dropped it and doubt I will get back to it ever again. Its also was very glitchy on start (no idea if they fixed all the bugs) and horrendous optimisation (couldn't get stable 60 fps on 3080).
Very funny. That bit where he's trying to do a controlled experiment re. what impact Strength has on no. of hits (to demonstrate how the Abilities descriptions lie), and other creatures keep barging in, and the controller doesn't work - sooooo typical of the game
rusty_shackleford
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Just think, only another 5-6 years until PB starts another series and makes another semi-playable game.
Dedicated_Dark
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Finally decided to play ELEX after all this time. While I'm immensely enjoying the experience, just because I have only played modern garbage rpgs for the past 5 fucking years.. sad..
I really don't like that this game relies so heavily on quest markers! WTF I thought Piranha Bytes were above this shit! I was here for the Euro Jank puritan experience, instead I'm getting garbage from the Witcher 3. AAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!
It's not even playable without the markers, like for the murder quest the guy just told me "They are out there" WHERE MOTHERFUCKER? TELL ME WHERE????? AAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!
Nobody tells you anything, fucking Jax is psychic cause he seems to always know!!!! Fuck! Fuck! What happened, I just skipped one game and they became this quest marker shit. It's all cause of Witcher 3 isn't it!
Anyway, rest of the game seems good.
I really don't like that this game relies so heavily on quest markers! WTF I thought Piranha Bytes were above this shit! I was here for the Euro Jank puritan experience, instead I'm getting garbage from the Witcher 3. AAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!
It's not even playable without the markers, like for the murder quest the guy just told me "They are out there" WHERE MOTHERFUCKER? TELL ME WHERE????? AAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!
Nobody tells you anything, fucking Jax is psychic cause he seems to always know!!!! Fuck! Fuck! What happened, I just skipped one game and they became this quest marker shit. It's all cause of Witcher 3 isn't it!
Anyway, rest of the game seems good.
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razvedchiki
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you get a piece of paper with the murder suspects and their general vicinity, if you explore you may stumble on a couple on your own.
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