Emulation central - recommendations in 1st post

[Puukko]

I got tired of waiting on "good" PS2 emulation and bought a phat for ~$30. Apparently, it's even one of the good revisions. Drive still works and everything.

What's the problem with ps2 emulation? It already worked almost perfectly years ago on any toaster.

Really depends on the game. A bunch of JRPGs required me to fiddle with pixel offsets and VP2 I couldn't get right no matter what. Shadow Hearts Covenant has prominent black screen effects during battle and doesn't play nice with widescreen.

If you can suffer the native resolution, you can always use the SW renderer. As far as I know it fixes any glitches everytime.

Not fast enough on VP2 unfortunately.

 

[Reinhardt]

I remember only two games gave me problems when i played ps2 emulator back then - VP2 and Eternal Poison.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

I got tired of waiting on "good" PS2 emulation and bought a phat for ~$30. Apparently, it's even one of the good revisions. Drive still works and everything.

What's the problem with ps2 emulation? It already worked almost perfectly years ago on any toaster.

Really depends on the game. A bunch of JRPGs required me to fiddle with pixel offsets and VP2 I couldn't get right no matter what. Shadow Hearts Covenant has prominent black screen effects during battle and doesn't play nice with widescreen.

If you can suffer the native resolution, you can always use the SW renderer. As far as I know it fixes any glitches everytime.

Not fast enough on VP2 unfortunately.

Out of curiosity I tried VP2 with the last build of PCSX2. It seems to run consistently at 100% in SW mode on my computer.

although it is a pity. The graphics is gorgeous and it really improves when upscaled via HW.

 

[Puukko]

Try the forest area.

 

[flyingjohn]

Does anybody here use a amd card and has no major problems with emulators? Especially older emulators that don't use vulkan.
I am thinking of getting a amd card,but heard nightmares about the opengl driver performance,especially with emulators.

 

[sullynathan]

Does anybody here use a amd card and has no major problems with emulators? Especially older emulators that don't use vulkan.
I am thinking of getting a amd card,but heard nightmares about the opengl driver performance,especially with emulators.

I've got RX 580 but have no problems with citra & dolphin without using Vulkan but i haven't tried the older emulators on this system.

 

[Hirato]

Does anybody here use a amd card and has no major problems with emulators? Especially older emulators that don't use vulkan.
I am thinking of getting a amd card,but heard nightmares about the opengl driver performance,especially with emulators.

You can generally expect equivalent AMD hardware to perform at about half the performance of its NVIDIA counterpart, and also have loads of bugs and broken features that need to be worked around - AFAIK PCSX2 still has issues with using dual blending and a few other things on AMD.

In my experience, this only applies to the WINDOWS drivers though;
If you're using MESA on Linux, everything is fine, in fact, you might bizarrely see even better performance from the OpenGL renderer than its Vulkan counterpart - something I see fairly regularly with RPCS3.

EDIT:
For example, when I recorded this. Even with a clean shader cache, the shaders compiled so quickly under OpenGL that there wasn't really anything to show.
Whereas it took quite a while under Vulkan, which made for a very nice demo of the new at the time async shader compilation.

 

[aweigh]

does persona 5 still glitch out in specific Palaces when using the 60fps patch? used to see ppl post "game can't progress" or "keeps loading black screen after beating boss" and stuff like that all the time in the RPCS3 reddit, and the culprit was always the 60fps patch, which is why I've never bothered using it.

...though the real reason I'm not "using it" right now is cos I dropped Persona 5 cos it sucks

 

[Nifft Batuff]

Try the forest area.

I tried also the forest area and fought some battles here. The frame rate is still 100%.

 

[spekkio]

BROS.

While twerking my PSP collection:

I've stumbled upon the fact, that some DLCs for PSP games are no longer available in Playstation Store, due to Sony being retards. Fortunately, you can grab some of them online. Tested disso shitto for two games:

Wipeout Pure

Killzone - Liberation

That is all.

 

[Puukko]

Try the forest area.

I tried also the forest area and fought some battles here. The frame rate is still 100%.

Interesting, what's your build? Mine's from last February, perhaps I should update next time I use it.

 

[Vorark]

BROS.

While twerking my PSP collection:

Persona 3 undub! I see you're a weeb man of culture. Bunch of oldschool VAs in the Japanese cast.

Ahh I miss my PSP. RIP little guy, Vita was never the successor you deserved.

 

[sullynathan]

why does citra have so many frequent updates?

 

[sullynathan]

Anyone get bayonetta 2 working on CEMU? Keeps crashing for me.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

Interesting, what's your build? Mine's from last February, perhaps I should update next time I use it.

It's v1.5.0-dev-3345-g96ef80077, downloaded a couple of weeks ago. My CPU is an Intel i7-9700F @ 3 GHz. VP2 works flawlessy in OpenGL SW rendering with ~ 35-40% CPU usage (I went through the game up to the Dipan Castle level.)
By the by, I found no way to use HW rendering for VP2 without any glitches and it's a real pity for this game. The graphics of VP2 is very strange. It's like it is a remastered HD version of itself. Every graphics details (UI, 2D and 3D art) seem already tailored to be rendered with an higher resolution than the native PS2 one.

 

[tet666]

Anyone get bayonetta 2 working on CEMU? Keeps crashing for me.

Works fine for me checked both opengl & vulkan make sure to update to 1.17.0d. Shadows are still completely missing which is a shame.

 

[sullynathan]

Anyone get bayonetta 2 working on CEMU? Keeps crashing for me.

Works fine for me checked both opengl & vulkan make sure to update to 1.17.0d. Shadows are still completely missing which is a shame.

Reddit people said the game is completely broken in Vulkan, and it crashes for me on vulkan right after the intro level. I'll try open gl

 

[tet666]

Anyone get bayonetta 2 working on CEMU? Keeps crashing for me.

Works fine for me checked both opengl & vulkan make sure to update to 1.17.0.d Shadows are still completely missing which is a shame.

Reddit people said the game is completely broken in Vulkan, and it crashes for me on vulkan right after the intro level. I'll try open gl

The last comments about it crashing i can find are from a month ago from a older version are you sure you are on 1.17.0.d? Again i played it a bit on opengl and vulkan and there are no crashes for me at least with nvidia.

 

[sullynathan]

Anyone get bayonetta 2 working on CEMU? Keeps crashing for me.

Works fine for me checked both opengl & vulkan make sure to update to 1.17.0.d Shadows are still completely missing which is a shame.

Reddit people said the game is completely broken in Vulkan, and it crashes for me on vulkan right after the intro level. I'll try open gl

The last comments about it crashing i can find are from a month ago from a older version are you sure you are on 1.17.0.d? Again i played it a bit on opengl and vulkan and there are no crashes for me at least with nvidia.

Yea, I'm on 1.17.0d. It crashed when I used my old save so I tested it by starting a new one. The intro is entirely playable until you get to the next chapter and it always crashes at the intro cutscene.

 

[tet666]

Yea, I'm on 1.17.0d. It crashed when I used my old save so I tested it by starting a new one. The intro is entirely playable until you get to the next chapter and it always crashes at the intro cutscene.

My saves work fine but i didn't test the beginning but why not switch to opengl? According to reddit only vulkan is broken.

 

[sullynathan]

Yea, I'm on 1.17.0d. It crashed when I used my old save so I tested it by starting a new one. The intro is entirely playable until you get to the next chapter and it always crashes at the intro cutscene.

My saves work fine but i didn't test the beginning but why not switch to opengl? According to reddit only vulkan is broken.

I'm using an RX 580 and my performance over a year ago with openGl was terrible in breath of the wild so I didn't use cemu at all until vulkan released. I can try, but if the choice is bad performance but fully playable game vs good performance but waiting for months - a year till playable, then I'll wait.

 

[Goi~Yaas~Dinn]

https://www.libretro.com/index.php/...arec-release-fast-and-accurate-n64-emulation/
Now just how much of this is hot air compared to last time, I wonder? Or CEN64 before that, or
mupen64 before that, or Project64 before that...

 

[spekkio]

BROs. Two cents about PS1 emulation. I've got a Wipeout itch recently, so went back to the best one:

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Unfortunately, initially it looked like I'm too old for this shit, since I've had serious problems with last two tracks, which have to be completed to enable championship. Somehow, the later games, which include analog stick support, were much easier for me to play. But nothing can be done about about it, since Wipeout 2097 doesn't support analog pad, right? Well, wrong!

The Sega Saturn version supported analog control by using its 3D Control Pad, whereas the PlayStation version supported analog control only through using the optional NeGcon twist controller.

Well, fuck me. More liek NeOcon, amrite? I had no idea such thing even existed. Switching control device in retroarch:

Changes game's options from this:

To this:

Analog stick works fine as NeGcon's twitchery replacement (maximum deflection = maximum lock), plus you can twerk it in emu's options:

And it gets the job done ingame (ship's turning speed depends on how far from the center you turn the analog stick, same way as in "proper" analog support).



So, having controls inclined, I moved to graphics (Beetle PSX HW core). Cranking internal res to 4x and enabling PGXP is a good idea.

Distant textures are no longer "wobbly" due to PGXP and game looks great in hi-res:

I went with "Nearest" texture filtering, because I preferer pixelated 2D elements to "borked by filtering artifacts" 2D elements:

But your mileage may vary.

Protip: Disable "Crop Horizontal Overscan" to get proper Aspect Ratio.

Crop enabled / disabled:

And that's all, I think:

OFC, you can always switch to 1x Internal Res for vanilla experience:

And try scanlines / shaders instead of increased internal res.

Wipeout 3 works great on these settings:

Except maybe fonts, but these look meh even on 1x Internal:

Out of curiosity, I've tried the antediluvian way as well, by testing epsxe 2.0.5 + gpuPeteOpenGL2 2.09 plugin. Unortunately, using increased internal res always leads to problems with 2D elements (heavy filtering can help, but leads to new probles with 3D elements) and lack of PGXP hurts the experience (wobbly textures).

Werdict: Resistance is futile. Retroarch all the way.

BTW, I can't go back to other emulators, when RA allows to switch emulation options on the fly, create options / input settings by core / directory / game, map emu hotkeys (save state / load state) to gamepad buttons and use gazillion of other options as well. And you can tweak almost any option of the emulator / gui:

Let's hope the devs won't screw it up in the future . But knowing humanity, they sure will.

 

[Goi~Yaas~Dinn]

BROs. Two cents about PS1 emulation. I've got a Wipeout itch recently, so went back to the best one:

Unfortunately, initially it looked like I'm too old for this shit, since I've had serious problems with last two tracks, which have to be completed to enable championship. Somehow, the later games, which include analog stick support, were much easier for me to play. But nothing can be done about about it, since Wipeout 2097 doesn't support analog pad, right? Well, wrong!

The Sega Saturn version supported analog control by using its 3D Control Pad, whereas the PlayStation version supported analog control only through using the optional NeGcon twist controller.

Well, fuck me. More liek NeOcon, amrite? I had no idea such thing even existed. Switching control device in retroarch:

Changes game's options from this:

To this:

Analog stick works fine as NeGcon's twitchery replacement (maximum deflection = maximum lock), plus you can twerk it in emu's options:

And it gets the job done ingame (ship's turning speed depends on how far from the center you turn the analog stick, same way as in "proper" analog support).



So, having controls inclined, I moved to graphics (Beetle PSX HW core). Cranking internal res to 4x and enabling PGXP is a good idea.

Distant textures are no longer "wobbly" due to PGXP and game looks great in hi-res:

I went with "Nearest" texture filtering, because I preferer pixelated 2D elements to "borked by filtering artifacts" 2D elements:

But your mileage may vary.

Protip: Disable "Crop Horizontal Overscan" to get proper Aspect Ratio.

Crop enabled / disabled:

And that's all, I think:

OFC, you can always switch to 1x Internal Res for vanilla experience:

And try scanlines / shaders instead of increased internal res.

Wipeout 3 works great on these settings:

Except maybe fonts, but these look meh even on 1x Internal:

Out of curiosity, I've tried the antediluvian way as well, by testing epsxe 2.0.5 + gpuPeteOpenGL2 2.09 plugin. Unortunately, using increased internal res always leads to problems with 2D elements (heavy filtering can help, but leads to new probles with 3D elements) and lack of PGXP hurts the experience (wobbly textures).

Werdict: Resistance is futile. Retroarch all the way.

BTW, I can't go back to other emulators, when RA allows to switch emulation options on the fly, create options / input settings by core / directory / game, map emu hotkeys (save state / load state) to gamepad buttons and use gazillion of other options as well. And you can tweak almost any option of the emulator / gui:

Let's hope the devs won't screw it up in the future . But knowing humanity, they sure will.

A little bit of gaming lore: the Negcon is the OG "analog controller", as far as Jap console devs are concerned. No, no, I don't mean it was the first (put that fucking pitchfork away, you in the back there!), I mean it was the first that actually took off and made it beyond "expensive novelty toy" status. This was ground zero for Nipps thinking that just mayby, possibly, the cross pad (+) wasn't the only one true input control method. That, even as the frontiers of 3D gaming peeled back at lightspeed on home consoles, they would do well to give an alternative control schema with much more nuance still serious consideration for equal footing with the beloved eight-directional Old Faithful. And so engineers at the big three cast their dice, striving to both improve upon the Negcon's possibilities and at the same time make the end-design more practical. The results were literally gaming history wrought in silicon and plastic.

 

[Don Peste]