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Epic Games Store - the console war comes to PC

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by LESS T_T, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. Valky Arcane Manlet

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    If your 12 year old son downloads an aimbot there are grounds to sue him in a civil court case.
     
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  2. Ismaul Citizen First Class #3333 Patron

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    It's tied to an Epic account. They can ban it. They can IP ban. And if he uses a VPN and creates many accounts, they'll just have to hunt him down again, learn to identify him. Eventually he'll tire out. Whatever.

    But you don't go trying to fix a very minor offense by making a bigger one yourself, in this case dragging a kid to court.
     
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  3. TheSentinel Arcane

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    You're very naive if you think hackers will "eventually tire out", especially in free to play games. These are, 80% of the times, mentally ill people with about 10 smurfs on average. Even linking your account to your phone number isn't a very effective way, because these people go to the lengths of getting different burner phones just to keep hacking.
    If these people are hurting your customers and by extension your business, you should have every right to legally pursue the matter. If they're "just a kid", then don't worry, no court will throw them in jail for it. Every civilized country has legislation for minor offenders.
     
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  4. racofer Thread Incliner

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    Found the chink.
     
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  5. TheSentinel Arcane

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    You don't need to take my word for it.


     
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  6. J1M Arcane

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    If cheating is a problem, fix the exploits.

    If the same person keeps finding exploits, hire him.

    If the same person keeps using exploits created by others, flag his account so he only joins matches with other cheaters.
     
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  7. TheSentinel Arcane

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    Ah yes, that totally solves the problem of alternate accounts.
    And the idea of rewarding cheat makers by giving them all jobs? Sublime. Not only is it completely sustainable, but also behaviour you want to promote.
     
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    If you are dealing with dumb schoolkidz, who just use cheats made by others, you ban them and fix the exploits they used = problem solved
    If there's a kid that comes up with new exploits faster then you fix them (and faster then your test team discovers them), yeah, fucking hire him and replace your test team
     
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  9. Perkel Arcane

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    I want more cheaters. The more cheaters there are the less people will play multiplayer games and the more focus will be on single player games.

    Fuck multiplayer games. (co-op games are ok though)
     
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  10. Taka-Haradin puolipeikko Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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  11. abija Prophet

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    Wtf are you talking about with "fix the exploits" in the case of aimbots?
     
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  12. Perkel Arcane

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    aimbots only exist because most of code in local not server side.
     
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  13. Reinhardt Arcane

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    Nah, sounds like work.
     
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  14. abija Prophet

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    Everything required for aimbots (final render and input) have to be on the client. How the actual fuck do you expect to fix it server side?
     
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    Hmmm idk, i guess making input resolve server side would do the trick. But it would add latency.
     
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  16. Tacgnol Shitlord Patron

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    Worked well for Denuvo with hiring ex-crackers, at least in the beginning.
     
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  17. abija Prophet

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    Do you try to understand what you say/post from time to time at least?
     
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  18. Perkel Arcane

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    Do you understand what "idk" stands for ?

    But yeah picture scripts would be hard to deal with. I am guessing AI deep learning can fix those as it can basically notice if someone is playing differently than what human player could play.
     
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    You aren't fixing the supply side of the problem. You think you're the first person to think of and implement these revolutionary ideas in 20 years of widespread online games? Jesus christ dude use your fucking brain.
    I even posted a video where you have a fucking Valve employee addressing all of these issues. You're not Einstein. Valve has thought of everything you'll ever think of and more. Additionally, they've implemented all of it and know it isn't effective.
     
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  20. Drakron Arcane

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    It reminds me of Captcha that got so insane that to prove you were human that solving it was more proving you were a script since no fucking way people could recognize that as letters.
    In a way its amusing things are getting to the point where people have to prove they are not cheating, every time they try to "up" the game with anti-cheating all they do is making scripts more advanced because the program cannot tell were exactly how commands were input, only they were ... you could try to make it so things that are simply impossible for humans to do (like perfect hit-scan shoots for example) or that should be outside the design (such as BDO speed-hacks) would be recognizable as cheating but this leads to a question, if you are making a game and making it so people dont automate it then ... what game is that? a boring repetitive game people rather not play and will automate instead?

    And since its nearly 2020 were Games as Live Services are common ... we know the answer to that question. Not saying there will never competitive games were people wont cheat but ... its reaching the point were they are demanding blood and urine samples of all players before the game even starts.
     
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  21. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    Co-op is far, far worse than competitive multiplayer.

    I don't want to rely on other retards when I play a game in multi. I want to fight against other retards. Co-op vs AI is shit and not fun.
     
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  22. Reinhardt Arcane

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    Codex needs co-op tb blobber with 8+ characters in party.
     
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    Solution: find some friends who are not retards and play co-op with them. I can't even imagine why would anyone play co-op with random strangers.
     
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  24. Reinhardt Arcane

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    I tried once to play icewind dale 2 with 3 friends. It was one of the most retarded things i did in my life.
     
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  25. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    I prefer playing PvP with friends, it's more fun than co-op vs AI.

    Or co-op vs other players in team PvP.
     
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