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DalekFlay

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I don't think not buying a game like Operencia has anything to do with principles or being a "Gaben slut" for an average gamer. It's just that whatever window of opportunity these games had (assuming they ever had any) is long gone now.

It will absolutely be interesting to see how it effects sales, sure. Ashen supposedly sold poorly on Steam and GOG a year later, but is that because most people who were interested got it on Epic, or that because a year of exclusivity away from the biggest platform by far made it less interesting? I hope more sales numbers come out that shed light on that. For example, a game that was a bomb on Epic but sells very well on Steam would say a lot about Steam's market power.
 

Zboj Lamignat

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For example, a game that was a bomb on Epic but sells very well on Steam would say a lot about Steam's market power.
That can only happen with somewhat meaningful games in a mass market sense, so Metro or Borderlands, and even then that's a big maybe. All those (semi)indies are dead and gone.
 

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That can only happen with somewhat meaningful games in a mass market sense, so Metro or Borderlands, and even then that's a big maybe. All those (semi)indies are dead and gone.

I'm not saying either way, I just want more info. We've only had a couple releases so far, and no one officially discussed it, so we don't know yet. I wouldn't really be surprised by either outcome... Steam does have a lot of power, but exclusives do tend to work in the video game market. I'm just curious where it all ends up.
 

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Steam does have a lot of power, but exclusives do tend to work in the video game market. I'm just curious where it all ends up.
People who were interested in the game and didn't mind Epic, already bought it on Epic.
People who were interested in the game but had strong feelings against Epic, won't buy it anyway (except on a deep sale maybe), because those strong feelings automatically transfers onto sellout devs.
That leaves us with impulse buyers - which is where most of Steam's marketing power comes from. But to engage impulse buyers, the game must have a momentum on Steam. Which it won't have because of point 1 - everyone who was truly interested already got it. It won't be added to wishlists, and it won't be getting onto top seller lists - ergo Steam algorithms won't show it to impulse buyers.
 

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People who were interested in the game but had strong feelings against Epic, will buy it now that it comes out of Epic Early Access
I know I won't, even though puzzle-heavy blobbers are kinda my thing. I would consider buying it on release, if it weren't on Epic, to support the developer. But as it is, I'm in no rush - I'm busy as fuck with my job and have a backlog - so I'll just wait until sale.
 
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I know I won't, even though puzzle-heavy blobbers are kinda my thing.
For what it's worth, I wouldn't really call it puzzle-heavy. Leans more toward combat than Bard's Tale 4 or the Grimrock games for recent competitors. There are puzzles but they aren't nearly the focus of the game.
 

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People who were interested in the game but had strong feelings against Epic, will buy it now that it comes out of Epic Early Access
I know I won't, even though puzzle-heavy blobbers are kinda my thing. I would consider buying it on release, if it weren't on Epic, to support the developer. But as it is, I'm in no rush - I'm busy as fuck with my job and have a backlog - so I'll just wait until sale.

your loss
 

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People who were interested in the game but had strong feelings against Epic, will buy it now that it comes out of Epic Early Access
Not me. I'll pirate it. I love this genre, but I'll not support stupid decisions.
I agree,if had come out on GoG on released i would have bought it and even promoted it here. But i don't support such practices.
 

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So in the end is this Operencia thing worth it? I'm not a huge fan of blobbers but i have played some, mostly from the M&M series. I'm thinking about keeping an eye on it, if it gets a discount.
 

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People who were interested in the game but had strong feelings against Epic, will buy it now that it comes out of Epic Early Access
I know I won't, even though puzzle-heavy blobbers are kinda my thing. I would consider buying it on release, if it weren't on Epic, to support the developer. But as it is, I'm in no rush - I'm busy as fuck with my job and have a backlog - so I'll just wait until sale.
This.

FUCK Epic.
 

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Despite Epic store being garbage I would not mind getting game there if its free or on such huge sale thats its practically free, since I want Steam to have a competition.

But I do not support bribery of developers to make their games exclusive, even more so when said developers Kickstarted their games with promises of Steam release.

Thats why I will never buy a Epic exclusive game, not on Epic or on Steam.
 

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So in the end is this Operencia thing worth it? I'm not a huge fan of blobbers but i have played some, mostly from the M&M series. I'm thinking about keeping an eye on it, if it gets a discount.
It's ok to get on discount, but nothing special. Average.
 

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At least one publisher acknowledges that their once EPIC exclooooooooooooooosives should not launch on Steam for full price when they are a year old. Hopefully others follow suit. But as I found the other Metro games overrated and bland, this isn't anything I would pay more than $10-15 for, anyway.
 

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Faeria and Assassin's Creed Syndicate are the weekly freebies. I'm continually in a state of soft awe at how much money Tencent has. Does anyone have a ballpark for how much one of these weekly 'giveaways' costs Epic?

A few exclusive games crawling back soon








Next ones should be Roller Coaster Tycoon something something in March, Borderlands 3 and World War Z in April. If we assume Ubisoft still has a brain then The Division 2 and Anno 1800 would be re-releasing in mid April.


Happy to see Satisfactory is finally coming to Steam – especially after the dev has been fairly deriding about the whole thing – though John Wick Hex is the title I'm really looking forward to (Bithel told me it's coming alright).
 

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It's pretty awesome for the kids/teens without income, that's a hell of a library they're getting.

Funny how "game devaluation" was apparently a massive concern during deep sales when studios sold their game at a discount. Now that they get paid a presumably bigger amount behind the scenes, it doesn't seem to matter anymore that the games are being given away for free, reinforcing the mindset that games are/should be cheap/free.
 

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No and there really isn't anything too interesting to see in Syndicate anyway. You could feel the low effort sequelitis strongly in its city design and Unity's as well.
 

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