Epic Games Store - the console war comes to PC

[DalekFlay]

It's pretty awesome for the kids/teens without income, that's a hell of a library they're getting.

They get everything free already.

 

[Theodora]

It's pretty awesome for the kids/teens without income, that's a hell of a library they're getting.

Funny how "game devaluation" was apparently a massive concern during deep sales when studios sold their game at a discount. Now that they get paid a presumably bigger amount behind the scenes, it doesn't seem to matter anymore that the games are being given away for free, reinforcing the mindset that games are/should be cheap/free.

The Games As A (Live) Service model means publishers are less worried about 'devaluation', but feel more entitled to your money than ever. A common experience with the games in Epic's giveaways, Humble's bundles, and key bundles in general, is that the full experience is at least one or more DLC away.

 

[DalekFlay]

PC Gamer declares the war over and Epic the winner.

I think this is dumb, Epic has shown no real proof that anyone would choose them over Steam when not doing exclusives and giveaways. Also with EA running back to Steam, there's less reason to need use alternate clients (though you still use them through Steam lulz). I see more evidence Steam will be a gatekeeper to everyone else's login/client bullshit than I do the opposite. That said... who the fuck knows.

 

[Theodora]

PC Gamer declares the war over and Epic the winner.

I think this is dumb, Epic has shown no real proof that anyone would choose them over Steam when not doing exclusives and giveaways. Also with EA running back to Steam, there's less reason to need use alternate clients (though you still use them through Steam lulz). I see more evidence Steam will be a gatekeeper to everyone else's login/client bullshit than I do the opposite. That said... who the fuck knows.

What's the headline you're seeing? (Does PC Gamer even do regional headers?) "As anger over the Epic Store subsides, what's next?" doesn't read the same as 'Epic won the war'.

Article does seem pretty pointless though. One could only really evaluate epic's success when measured by something other than (or at least after) free shit and strongarm tactics.

 

[Belegarsson]

Saying Epic wins the platform war because it gives out free games is the equivalent of saying Yakuza mobsters are decent folks because they aided civilians after tsunami

 

[BlackAdderBG]

Saying Epic wins the platform war because it gives out free games is the equivalent of saying Yakuza mobsters are decent folks because they aided civilians after tsunami

Hahah true, with their logic Origin won way before that, so that's why EA is returning to Steam

 

[DalekFlay]

What's the headline you're seeing? (Does PC Gamer even do regional headers?) "As anger over the Epic Store subsides, what's next?" doesn't read the same as 'Epic won the war'.

The war of relevance, the war of making Steam not the only game in town, etc. etc. I wasn't saying Epic is bigger than Steam, that would be insane. I was saying the article is the opening round of capitulation to "welp we've got two of them now." I also said I'm not sure I agree, as Epic's released numbers seemed weak and Bethesda and EA are running back to Steam.

 

[Theodora]

What's the headline you're seeing? (Does PC Gamer even do regional headers?) "As anger over the Epic Store subsides, what's next?" doesn't read the same as 'Epic won the war'.

The war of relevance, the war of making Steam not the only game in town, etc. etc. I wasn't saying Epic is bigger than Steam, that would be insane. I was saying the article is the opening round of capitulation to "welp we've got two of them now." I also said I'm not sure I agree, as Epic's released numbers seemed weak and Bethesda and EA are running back to Steam.

I get what you're saying, but equating something shit with Steam isn't saying it's better than it + beating it (which is how 'won the war' reads). It's silly, but it's not the same. And to be plain, Steam has plenty of woes; I'd probably keep most of my library on GOG if it had come around earlier.

Steam's greatest asset is that we're all already there (how many of you have friends on GOG Galaxy?), and as a result near everything is made with Steam in mind (plenty of games on GOG don't have achievements despite porting them from Steam to GOG probably being something an intern could do in an hour).

 

[DalekFlay]

Steam's greatest asset is that we're all already there (how many of you have friends on GOG Galaxy?), and as a result near everything is made with Steam in mind (plenty of games on GOG don't have achievements despite porting them from Steam to GOG probably being something an intern could do in an hour).

It amazes me that supposedly 80% or whatever of GOG's customer base uses Galaxy. I'd think if you wanted the client experience you'd just get shit on Steam. Obviously I don't know anything, but I like pretending I do on the internet.

 

[vonAchdorf]

I use Galaxy because I'm, too lazy to use the installers.

Friends? What's that?

Maybe Discord makes the Steam friends list less important these days. I see youngins hanging out in the Discord of their favorite streamer / YouTuber to chat with friends or they have their own channels. Many of the games they play (Fortnite, Overwatch) aren't on Steam anyway.

 

[Theodora]

Steam's greatest asset is that we're all already there (how many of you have friends on GOG Galaxy?), and as a result near everything is made with Steam in mind (plenty of games on GOG don't have achievements despite porting them from Steam to GOG probably being something an intern could do in an hour).

It amazes me that supposedly 80% or whatever of GOG's customer base uses Galaxy. I'd think if you wanted the client experience you'd just get shit on Steam. Obviously I don't know anything, but I like pretending I do on the internet.

2.0 is a huge improvement over the original GOG client, and honestly it does as good a job as anyone could ask at amalgamating several storefronts/libraries (and even PSN and XBL to an extent, if that's your thing). I don't really use it like that, but I can easily see others doing so. But on a much more basic level it's just way less effort to install/uninstall things through a client.

Anyway, I do primarily get things through Steam, but not everything is available through Valve's store — hell, that is GOG's original marketshare. And if you want to know how much time you're spending playing whatever you own on GOG, using their client is the path of least resistence until Steam stops treating the games you buy elsewhere as second-class.

 

[DalekFlay]

2.0 is a huge improvement over the original GOG client, and honestly it does as good a job as anyone could ask at amalgamating several storefronts/libraries (and even PSN and XBL to an extent, if that's your thing). I don't really use it like that, but I can easily see others doing so. But on a much more basic level it's just way less effort to install/uninstall things through a client.

Sure, but the whole reason I buy everything I can on GOG is to avoid using a client.

 

[Jenkem]

Epic sponsors the PC GAMER PC Gaming Show @ E3 and is a prominent advertiser on PCGAMER.COM

 

[rusty_shackleford]

PCGamer regularly shills for epic, can't tell if you guys are being serious or not

 

[Jenkem]

Posting a wall of text taken from Reddit to say what I said in one simple sentence.

 

[FeelTheRads]

The gaming industry deserves better. LMAO. No, it doesn't. That's exactly what pussy faggot developer and publisher cocksucking "gamers" deserve.
And all these screaming for "better" will go and pre-order every AAA game because hey, it seems "not letting them get away with it" means just screaming like a faggot on reddit not actually doing anything.

 

[fantadomat]

Meh,who the fuck cares about pc gamaz or whatever,it is some irrelevant shill site,like the rest of them lol.

 

[Infinitron]

https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/news/wishlists-are-here

Wishlists are here!

Hey all,

We just added the first version of Wishlists to the Epic Games Store!

How do I wishlist a game?

When you’re logged in to your Epic Games account visit any game’s product page on the Epic Games Store on the web or through the Epic Games Launcher. Select the “Add to Wishlist” button, found here:

What can I do with wishlists?

You can track the games you're interested in for future purchase or discounts, all on one handy page!

To start, we'll be adding filtering and smart searching of items you've added to your wishlist. In future iterations, we plan to add email notifications when your wishlisted titles are discounted, or change status (such as a launch, or becoming available for pre-purchase).

How do I view my wishlist?

You can access your wishlist online by signing in to your Epic Games account and heading over to https://www.epicgames.com/store/wishlist. On the launcher, you can find it here:

We’re already planning some improvements for future iterations, but can always use your feedback. Try it out and let us know your thoughts on our social channels!

 

[Wunderbar]

checkmate steam!

 

[Alphons]

Hey there fellow Epic gamers. I believe we can make a positive change if we wishlist a MOTHERFUCKING SHOPPING CART.

 

[Belegarsson]

Just tried this feature:

- Can't sort by release date

 

[fantadomat]

Did they managed to add a basket by now?

 

[sullynathan]

Gabe Newell says 'everybody benefits' from competition with Epic

https://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-says-everybody-benefits-from-competition-with-epic/

 

[DalekFlay]

Oh no, Gaben said the same thing the supposed "Epic fanboys" have said! Time to figure out a way to hate Epic without contradicting the Dear Leader.

 

[Perkel]

Did they managed to add a basket by now?

It is right after AOL account linking by mail, calling your bank to realize CC transaction and rotary keyboard input.