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Epic Games Store - the console war comes to PC

Tacgnol

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"highly confidential - attorney's eyes only" :smug:

This always happens with high profile court cases. It's the other reasons companies dread getting subpoenaed, aside from the time/resources required to provide the requested information.
 

fantadomat

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Is this legit? Cause this slide is very strange.

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According to this, they are doing what they accused Steam of doing while simultaneously "proving" that Steam in fact does not do it.
:nocountryforshitposters:
nigga why are you surprised? Their predatory,yet incompetent approach to busyness was obvious from the start. It is no wonder that epic were about to go bankrupt before they got lucky with fortnight lol.
 

passerby

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He wants to sell his game for more on steam as to make the difference of 18%. So his idea is to offload the steam cut to the customers.

Yes ?
The base prices are determined by the market, by what people are willing to pay, nothing else, while sellers actively seek a price that will generate the most revenue.
Claiming he wants to rise prices on Steam even higher as a result of price difference is just stupid semantics, since it's actually not possible.
So, this is the idea that he sells for whatever he sells and customers who think Steam is not worth 18% gain opportunity to pay 18% less.

So there are two possible outcomes of the other platform selling 18% cheaper:

1) Most people will think that Steam is worth 18% and market share of cheap platform remains low enough for Steam to keep it's high cut.
Small minority of customers will get the opportunity to D1P 18% cheaper, Steam users loose nothing, devs/publishers gain nothing, Steam loses some small market share.

2) Cheap platform gains market share and pressure Steam into lower cut. Since the cut would be the same everywhere, prices everywhere would remain the same as they were before.
Customers gain nothing, Devs/Publishers gain better cut, Steam gets its cut reduced.

3) No one is selling 18% cheaper. No Steam users buy on the other service.
Customers gain nothing, devs/publishers gain nothing, Steam keeps its high cut.

The only side that has anything to loose in this debacle is Steam, while you have nothing to loose, but passionately defend Steam ability to cut deep into devs profit margin.

Not to mention he didn't back any of his claims with documents where it says he can't sell at lower price without steam keys/drm.

The slide Aruil posted may be fake news, so we will see. In currently publicly available Steamworks ToS there is no point on pricing at all.
I remember few years ago reading Steamworks ToS out of curiosity and price parity was indeed there without differentiating between Steam keys and other services.
Most likely Steam never actively enforced it, or the point was meant only for Steam keys and was unintentionally vague ( it's what they will claim anyway ).

It's all moot anyway, since as explained by VD in the other thread most devs/publishers are unwilling to make 18% price difference happen, since it doesn't provide any immediate benefit to them, while they are afraid that upset steamtards like you would refuse to buy their games.
So in the end they deserve to Steam charge them these 30%.
 
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Mystery Game in 1 day and 7 hours.

Probably something big. They usually do something like this when some bigger game is coming as free. They had string on meh indies previously.
 
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Hmm.. should I get 450,000 VCs to go with my free game. That'd only be 99,99 euros, a real bargain in other words.
There are more ways than ever before to spend your VC. Upgrade your MyPLAYER, buy MyTEAM packs to build your perfect fantasy team, and so much more!
 
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The rumors were right then. Makes sense since Fortnite is having a NBA event.



Kingdom Hearts series at 33% discount, a bit bigger than the 25% I was expecting.

At 30%, Cyanide's Werewolf is eligible for the coupon.
 
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LESS T_T

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To be fair all other notable spikes are freebies (most of the new users probably won't spend money) while BL3 launch theoretically brought people who actually are willing to pay, even it's just for that one game.
 

Perkel

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Wow Borderlands 3 sure had a huge impact.

Free games will always give more new accounts than something you can buy. Even then BD3 datapoints shows accounts taht actually went and bought something.

Underlining everything is gta5 which completely skews numbers.
 

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Oh yeah, and Metro Exodus came out on February 19th 2019 and there isn't even an arrow for it.
"Best sales for the franchise!"
:lol::lol::lol:
 

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WOW is that launcher one steaming pile of shit! I am actually amazed at this level of incompetence.

I want to move an Ubisoft game i bought on EGS to another harddrive. I can't simply move the install folder like in Steam with one click and a few moments of waiting. No, of course not, that would be convenient. I have to copy the games folder manually, put it somewhere else, delete the game, reinstall the game on the new install location, cancel the download at 2-3%, replace all the data and resume the installation process. Oh no, the reinstall process bugged because the launcher thinks the game is already installed and wants to run it from the old install folder so i have to reinstall EGS.

WOW seems like i'm in luck! The newly installed EGS launcher does the convoluted thing google hivemind tells me to do in order to do something super simple. But oh shit. Oh no. Now it wants to download 7GB again because it could not verify the exact data that it needs to run the game. Oh and now when i want to launch the game IT OPENS UP UPLAY BY ITSELF AND UPLAY ASKS ME WHERE I WANT TO FUCKING INSTALL THE GAME I ALREADY INSTALLED SO I LOOK UP WHAT TO DO AND IT TELLS ME TO UNINSTALL UPLAY SO IT:ASD:;KJLKJASDÖLKDFJALÖSDKFJÖL SKDJALÖKJDAS

Yeah fuck these imbecile chinaman cocksuckers. I'll just refund.
 

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WOW is that launcher one steaming pile of shit! I am actually amazed at this level of incompetence.

I want to move an Ubisoft game i bought on EGS to another harddrive. I can't simply move the install folder like in Steam with one click and a few moments of waiting. No, of course not, that would be convenient. I have to copy the games folder manually, put it somewhere else, delete the game, reinstall the game on the new install location, cancel the download at 2-3%, replace all the data and resume the installation process. Oh no, the reinstall process bugged because the launcher thinks the game is already installed and wants to run it from the old install folder so i have to reinstall EGS.

WOW seems like i'm in luck! The newly installed EGS launcher does the convoluted thing google hivemind tells me to do in order to do something super simple. But oh shit. Oh no. Now it wants to download 7GB again because it could not verify the exact data that it needs to run the game. Oh and now when i want to launch the game IT OPENS UP UPLAY BY ITSELF AND UPLAY ASKS ME WHERE I WANT TO FUCKING INSTALL THE GAME I ALREADY INSTALLED SO I LOOK UP WHAT TO DO AND IT TELLS ME TO UNINSTALL UPLAY SO IT:ASD:;KJLKJASDÖLKDFJALÖSDKFJÖL SKDJALÖKJDAS

Yeah fuck these imbecile chinaman cocksuckers. I'll just refund.
WOW is that launcher one steaming pile of shit! I am actually amazed at this level of incompetence.

I want to move an Ubisoft game i bought on EGS to another harddrive. I can't simply move the install folder like in Steam with one click and a few moments of waiting. No, of course not, that would be convenient. I have to copy the games folder manually, put it somewhere else, delete the game, reinstall the game on the new install location, cancel the download at 2-3%, replace all the data and resume the installation process. Oh no, the reinstall process bugged because the launcher thinks the game is already installed and wants to run it from the old install folder so i have to reinstall EGS.

WOW seems like i'm in luck! The newly installed EGS launcher does the convoluted thing google hivemind tells me to do in order to do something super simple. But oh shit. Oh no. Now it wants to download 7GB again because it could not verify the exact data that it needs to run the game. Oh and now when i want to launch the game IT OPENS UP UPLAY BY ITSELF AND UPLAY ASKS ME WHERE I WANT TO FUCKING INSTALL THE GAME I ALREADY INSTALLED SO I LOOK UP WHAT TO DO AND IT TELLS ME TO UNINSTALL UPLAY SO IT:ASD:;KJLKJASDÖLKDFJALÖSDKFJÖL SKDJALÖKJDAS

Yeah fuck these imbecile chinaman cocksuckers. I'll just refund.

BRO THE EA FAGPASS THING IS JUST AS SHIT

NO FUCKING OPTION TO UNINSTALL HAD TO USE CONTROL PANEL

LOLLLOL MY DAD SAID YEAH TGATS HOW YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO REMOVE SHIT LOLLLOLOL

IF YOUR GONNA EAT MY RAM AT LEAST BE FUNCTIINAL
 

duke nukem

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Quality of the free games is increasing as Epic Games is now offering Genshin impact as a free game. Offer lasts until 17 june, quickly grab it while you can.
 

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