Epic Games Store - the console war comes to PC

[Norfleet]

Why would they need a "shopping cart"? Real shopping carts are for women and homeless people. Men go, get what they came for, and then LEAVE.

 

[Tyrr]

Why would they need a "shopping cart"? Real shopping carts are for women and homeless people. Men go, get what they came for, and then LEAVE.

Men also need them.

 

[lycanwarrior]

I've deleted my Epic acc a year ago even with some AAA games. Chinese spyware with a haughty CEO and a stupid idea about how exlusivity is good for its sheeps players.

Hate on Epic is not trend anymore, didn't they update you?

Here is an updated list of the lastest hate trends:

-Blizzard
-White men

Good luck

Where's the dedicated thread for the Activision/Blizzard???!

 

[Dexter]

The only potentially profitable games are apparently Satisfactory and Dauntless. They supposedly lost $24.5 million with their Sales Guarantee Buyout on The Division 2, a whopping $22.2 million on Metro Exodus, $14 million on World War Z, close to $9 million on Hades and Ashen and $5 million on The Outer Wilds and Sinking City.

Full docs: https://app.box.com/s/6b9wmjvr582c95uzma1136exumk6p989/file/839618320097

 

[Gerrard]

Wasn't Dauntless free to play?

 

[fantadomat]

Shame that there is no outer farts from cucksidian.

It seems that metro sold less than a million lol.

Also interested to see how much the nu borderlands sell.

 

[mediocrepoet]

I think the problem with EGS is that people seem to have shifted from outright hatred of it to mild disinterest.

In a sense EGS is good for gamers since they subsidize the post release phase of a game for between 1 month to 1 year, which you are free to buy the EGS "Early Access" version, or wait and get the actual release later with all of its patches and DLCs at a lower price. It's like charity for gamers, giving back the Fortnite bucks to the community.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

They lost dozens of millions on that pseudo-exclusive inanity for sure, but Metro and Anno having the same MG with Anno recouping much more sounds suspiciously bs. Especially the second part.

 

[Syl]

They lost dozens of millions on that pseudo-exclusive inanity for sure, but Metro and Anno having the same MG with Anno recouping much more sounds suspiciously bs. Especially the second part.

Two games were released that day, Anno and WWZ. There's two lines in the table with that date. Does it make more sense if it's World War Z?

 

[Tyrr]

Today I learned there is a r/fuckepic. It even has more than 36k members.

I bet this wouldn't be the case if they invested all that money in the shop instead of buying exclusives.

 

[Dexter]

Today I learned there is a r/fuckepic. It even has more than 36k members.

I bet this wouldn't be the case if they invested all that money in the shop instead of buying exclusives.

Apparently this also got leaked, a conversation between Timmy Tencent and various Epic Games employees from August 2019 when that whole "Ooblets" situation happened and how they were trying to damage control:

At the end is a draft of their coordinated PR response, trying to downplay the "Excl00sivity" shenanigans as anti-consumer and talk about people threatening to pirate games etc.: https://app.box.com/s/6b9wmjvr582c95uzma1136exumk6p989/file/839647880203

Spoiler

 

[rusty_shackleford]

If they instead used that money to provide (more) free assets on the UE marketplace they'd probably end up being way more liked now than they currently are. It would be incredibly easy to run an ad campaign targeting gamers advertising how much they're doing to help indies create good games, an easy goodwill win.
Doesn't seem like all that exclusivity bought them any marketshare anyways.

If you remember, the Epic store's original pitch was how much more money goes into the dev's pockets which got people talking about it until they started doing excloosivity shit.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Show's they were probably right to switch/pursue the exclusivity tbh. 100+ million on mostly free shit to barely make a dent in Valve's stranglehold.

 

[Dexter]

https://archive.is/rhsuZ

Epic has sunk $500M into the Epic Games Store, doesn't expect to make a profit until 2027
By Rich Stanton about 12 hours ago
Well, at least it can afford it.

(Image credit: Epic Games)
Various documents have been coming out from the ongoing Apple vs Epic legal case in the state of California, and here's a full rundown of the core of Apple's (pretty decent) defense. As part of this, Apple's lawyers executed what one can only call a drive-by on the Epic Games Store, which Epic's lawyers had been claiming was comparable to the App Store.

"Epic Games Store is unprofitable and not comparable to the App Store" the lawyers began, rather bluntly, "and will not be profitable for at least multiple years, if ever." Ouch!

But what's interesting is that Apple's legal eagles go on to break down just how unprofitable the Epic Games Store is. "Epic lost around $181 million on EGS in 2019. Epic projected to lose around $273 million on EGS in 2020. Indeed, Epic committed $444 million in minimum guarantees for 2020 alone, while projecting, even with 'significant' growth, only $401 million in revenue for that year. Epic acknowledges that trend will continue in the immediate future: Epic projects to lose around $139 million in 2021."

If we take the lower figures, that adds up to an investment on Epic's part of $493 million since 2019, and Epic itself has acknowledged that "unrecouped costs" will amount to at least $330 million. "At best, Epic does not expect EGS to have a cumulative gross profit before 2027."

 

[Lacrymas]

What a dumpster fire. At least they are providing poorer gamers with new games every 2 weeks or so. I'm not sure why they are thinking they are ever going to make a profit. Not only is their PR terrible, they also don't offer anything to the consumer.

 

[Reinhardt]

What a dumpster fire. At least they are providing poorer gamers with new games every 2 weeks or so. I'm not sure why they are thinking they are ever going to make a profit. Not only is their PR terrible, they also don't offer anything to the consumer.

Poorer gamers can just torrent it or loot some kwa shop when next nigger dindu nuffin.

 

[Lacrymas]

I meant "legit" copies. ;p

 

[Reinhardt]

I meant "legit" copies. ;p

You mean something you don't own at all?

 

[Perkel]

nice this means they will be giving out free games until 2027. What a time to be alive. Stores just hand you games to play for free. Back in my days you had to pirate them or buy shitty newspapers with old games.

 

[Lacrymas]

What they should be doing is exclusivity + lower prices than Steam. Those extra 18% that go to the developers should be going to the customers instead. It's very aggressive, but I don't see any other way. Almost 20% lower baseline prices than Steam and sales on top? Oof. Get your asshole ready, Steam.

 

[Atlantico]

https://archive.is/rhsuZ

Not content with shilling for the vaxx, you shill for some dumbass online retailers now.

(((you))) really are a dumbfuck, now go get your vaccine dipshit.

 

[passerby]

What they should be doing is exclusivity + lower prices than Steam. Those extra 18% that go to the developers should be going to the customers instead. It's very aggressive, but I don't see any other way. Almost 20% lower baseline prices than Steam and sales on top? Oof. Get your asshole ready, Steam.

It was discussed in detail already, Epic would happily offer lower prices, but all publishers and most indie devs ( like Vault Dweller for example ), refuses to do agree to that.
There would be nothing in it for them then and they believe ( probably correctly ) that it would make many steamtards butthurt and boycott their games.

 

[Perkel]

+ lower prices than Steam.

In normal capitalism that could be a thing. But we live in corpocapitalism and for example one of statutes of Steam deal is that you won't be selling game officially somewhere else at lower price. Console makers have even harder therms like Xbox outright denying game sale if their game version is worse or not released at the same time. Playstation also have similar stuff but they also dissallow release of game if it was released earlier unless it has some new content in it making it special edition.

Only if there will be more stores like Epic and say 5 more biggers ones Steam/xbox/ps rules will be worth jack shit to develoepers.


As an example. Epic at the start of their store made so that Epic would cover 10$ out of 60$ game so that effectively you got 50$ game. Go read news back then what happened. Developers instantly removed their games from Epic or hid them for that promotion because they believed it would break their deals with other stores.

Instead now Epic gives you 10$ voucher on any game. Same shit but it generates no problems contract wise for developers.

It was discussed in detail already, Epic would happily offer lower prices, but all publishers and most indie devs ( like Vault Dweller for example ), refuses to do agree to that.
There would be nothing in it for them then and they believe ( probably correctly ) that it would make many steamtards butthurt and boycott their games.

ITT EPIC was paying the difference. The problem was with deals devs made.

 

[Atlantico]

It is just bizarre to see the butthurt that the Epic store has caused, as if fucking Steam is worth a damn.

It's all the same garbage.

There are people who use whatever store they need, those are the normal people. Then there's the vegans of digital distribution, because they'll tell you they use Steam.

 

[Lacrymas]

It was discussed in detail already, Epic would happily offer lower prices, but all publishers and most indie devs ( like Vault Dweller for example ), refuses to do agree to that.
There would be nothing in it for them then and they believe ( probably correctly ) that it would make many steamtards butthurt and boycott their games.

They'll get the same money as on Steam. I didn't know about that ban on lower prices Steam has, though.

+ lower prices than Steam.

In normal capitalism that could be a thing. But we live in corpocapitalism and for example one of statutes of Steam deal is that you won't be selling game officially somewhere else at lower price. Console makers have even harder therms like Xbox outright denying game sale if their game version is worse or not released at the same time. Playstation also have similar stuff but they also dissallow release of game if it was released earlier unless it has some new content in it making it special edition.

Only if there will be more stores like Epic and say 5 more biggers ones Steam/xbox/ps rules will be worth jack shit to develoepers.


As an example. Epic at the start of their store made so that Epic would cover 10$ out of 60$ game so that effectively you got 50$ game. Go read news back then what happened. Developers instantly removed their games from Epic or hid them for that promotion because they believed it would break their deals with other stores.

Instead now Epic gives you 10$ voucher on any game. Same shit but it generates no problems contract wise for developers.

It was discussed in detail already, Epic would happily offer lower prices, but all publishers and most indie devs ( like Vault Dweller for example ), refuses to do agree to that.
There would be nothing in it for them then and they believe ( probably correctly ) that it would make many steamtards butthurt and boycott their games.

ITT EPIC was paying the difference. The problem was with deals devs made.

Clown world.