Europa Universalis IV

[Fedora Master]

But this patch was an utter and total cluster fuck, breaking stuff in every part of the game, and adding more OP broken mechanics (pillage and consolidate). EU4 is now a giant Frankensteins monster of buttons and mechanics all stitched together in an unholy mess, just let it die already.

That's been the case at least half a dozen DLCs back.
To someone who has never played a PDX game before, or even someone who only played vanilla, the game is incomprehensible.

 

[Joggerino]

 

[LizardWizard]

Ya'll like 5+ years late on the Johan hate

 

[fantadomat]

("hey bub maybe you should check out that +100% conversion rate for hordes, you probably meant 1%")

It doesn't even need fixing,it is a thing that anyone could do in 3 minutes too. You just have open the idea in notepad++ ,search for missionary,then just adjust the number lol.

time

is not the problem,human resources is. Those people are highly incompetent,even fuck like me would do a better dev job than this fucks,and i know not a single coding language lol. Just look at the DLC,ignore all the bugs and silly shit,they worked at it for nearly a years. And what did they came up? A button that gives you free shit from the diplomacy screen,a button that makes your capital a mega city,an icon that gives you free shit when upgraded and a bunch of mission threes which a modder could do in a few days. Oh also made the primitives a supper aliens. It is shit that a one man team could do in a month or maybe three.

 

[NJClaw]

Just look at the DLC,ignore all the bugs and silly shit

This is what baffles me the most. Even ignoring and forgiving all the bugs, crashes, save corruptions, missing assets, and malfunctioning features, the stuff that they added to the game and actually works shows a deep and complete misunderstanding of how the game works. Ignore for a moment the monuments' effects and just consider their upgrade costs: the original upgrade cost was 1.000 ducats for each level, and now they patched it to 3.500 for level 2 and 7.000 for level 3. This means that what could originally be achieved with 2.000 ducats now, after less than a week of testing from the community, costs 10.500 fucking ducats. And the monuments' effects got nerfed to the ground:

- Alhambra went from +15% admin efficiency to +5%;
- The Pyramid went from -15% technology cost, -10% idea cost, and +1 admin power point per month (!?!?!?) to -5% idea cost and -20% advisor cost. WHAT THE FUCK;
- The Mausoleum went from -10% technology cost and -15% idea cost to -5% technology cost and some useless institution spread modifiers;
- Moai went from +65% religious unity to +25%.

They clearly had no idea of what the fuck they were doing while designing this stuff.

 

[JarlFrank]

EU4 is a completely broken mess with no redeeming features.

Always has been. You know it to be true.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

problem is there's nothing even slightly similar.

 

[kangaxx]

EU4 is a completely broken mess with no redeeming features.

Always has been. You know it to be true.

Broken mess, sure. Redeeming features? Painting maps can be fun. In particular the early game can be great fun... it just loses its lustre when you become unstoppable.

 

[NJClaw]

EU4 is a completely broken mess with no redeeming features.

Always has been. You know it to be true.

Broken mess, sure. Redeeming features? Painting maps can be fun. In particular the early game can be great fun... it just loses its lustre when you become unstoppable.

Yes! That's why changing country every 10, 20, or 50 years (or whenever you feel like you reached an important goal for the nation you are playing) makes the game so much better. You can find yourself in completely unexpected situations, where you might even have to deal with the unstoppable superpower that you created with your previous nation. Among the playthroughs that I remember more fondly there's one where I played as Hungary, Brandenburg, Cologne, Bavaria, and Holland, continuously dealing with my previous nations.

 

[Delterius]

bengal is fun

 

[Joggerino]

EU4 is a completely broken mess with no redeeming features.

Always has been. You know it to be true.

It was pretty fun at release. Not better then EU3 divine wind but still pretty good.

 

[XenomorphII]

Been playing the Anbennar mod. It is pretty neat, but damn it has some fuck you crisis things that I feel like are overkill and don't see any way to deal with. My poor dwarves just got demolished.

 

[fantadomat]

Just look at the DLC,ignore all the bugs and silly shit

This is what baffles me the most. Even ignoring and forgiving all the bugs, crashes, save corruptions, missing assets, and malfunctioning features, the stuff that they added to the game and actually works shows a deep and complete misunderstanding of how the game works. Ignore for a moment the monuments' effects and just consider their upgrade costs: the original upgrade cost was 1.000 ducats for each level, and now they patched it to 3.500 for level 2 and 7.000 for level 3. This means that what could originally be achieved with 2.000 ducats now, after less than a week of testing from the community, costs 10.500 fucking ducats. And the monuments' effects got nerfed to the ground:

- Alhambra went from +15% admin efficiency to +5%;
- The Pyramid went from -15% technology cost, -10% idea cost, and +1 admin power point per month (!?!?!?) to -5% idea cost and -20% advisor cost. WHAT THE FUCK;
- The Mausoleum went from -10% technology cost and -15% idea cost to -5% technology cost and some useless institution spread modifiers;
- Moai went from +65% religious unity to +25%.

They clearly had no idea of what the fuck they were doing while designing this stuff.

Nurffing them is a retarded shit,it happened because retards on the youtube bitched because they used cheats for money to insta upgrade them and whined about being op and such shit lol. They were the most interesting thing in that dlc for sure. Should have made so you can't hurry up the construction/update. Not making them a useless icon that people forget after a game lol. It is clear that the game is balanced for multi and around youtube retards and not for its players.

EU4 is a completely broken mess with no redeeming features.

Always has been. You know it to be true.

If you don't like the game,then don't whine about shit in here,go play the games you like.

EU4 is a completely broken mess with no redeeming features.

Always has been. You know it to be true.

Broken mess, sure. Redeeming features? Painting maps can be fun. In particular the early game can be great fun... it just loses its lustre when you become unstoppable.

Yes! That's why changing country every 10, 20, or 50 years (or whenever you feel like you reached an important goal for the nation you are playing) makes the game so much better. You can find yourself in completely unexpected situations, where you might even have to deal with the unstoppable superpower that you created with your previous nation. Among the playthroughs that I remember more fondly there's one where I played as Hungary, Brandenburg, Cologne, Bavaria, and Holland, continuously dealing with my previous nations.

I like to play till i finish the mission trees. The game have become far too balanced to waste your time on another type of a game. Back in the day was fun to try and do non evro runs. The three mountains achievement was a challenge back then.

Been playing the Anbennar mod. It is pretty neat, but damn it has some fuck you crisis things that I feel like are overkill and don't see any way to deal with. My poor dwarves just got demolished.

Yeah,dwarf crisis i great fun . It is shame that vanilla doesn't have such fun things . It is a great mod for sure. You should play with the elf island to the south west of the big red empire. It is pretty fun racist colonization campaign,a lot of purging. HRE is pretty boring tho,there is not any interesting nations in it. You could try with the kobolts in the NW or the vikings/pirates to the NE of the HRE,next to the orks.

 

[Higher Game]

Just look at the DLC,ignore all the bugs and silly shit

This is what baffles me the most. Even ignoring and forgiving all the bugs, crashes, save corruptions, missing assets, and malfunctioning features, the stuff that they added to the game and actually works shows a deep and complete misunderstanding of how the game works. Ignore for a moment the monuments' effects and just consider their upgrade costs: the original upgrade cost was 1.000 ducats for each level, and now they patched it to 3.500 for level 2 and 7.000 for level 3. This means that what could originally be achieved with 2.000 ducats now, after less than a week of testing from the community, costs 10.500 fucking ducats. And the monuments' effects got nerfed to the ground:

- Alhambra went from +15% admin efficiency to +5%;
- The Pyramid went from -15% technology cost, -10% idea cost, and +1 admin power point per month (!?!?!?) to -5% idea cost and -20% advisor cost. WHAT THE FUCK;
- The Mausoleum went from -10% technology cost and -15% idea cost to -5% technology cost and some useless institution spread modifiers;
- Moai went from +65% religious unity to +25%.

They clearly had no idea of what the fuck they were doing while designing this stuff.

Those are all very nice effects for just 10k ducats. I suspect most players are playing with too many forts.

 

[NJClaw]

Those are all very nice effects for just 10k ducats. I suspect most players are playing with too many forts.

Of course those are all very nice effects for just 10k ducats. And that's the point. Since (many) of those effects are fine now for 10k, how the fuck did they think that it was okay to get effects 10 times better than those for 1/10 of the price?

 

[Higher Game]

I've lately figured out that coring cost reduction just doesn't really matter all that much if you aren't Muslim. Everyone else does vassal feeding and annexing for long before coring, and by the time they do start coring (at like 5000+ development) they have plenty of administrative efficiency anyway and are set to sprint to the finish. But Muslims have uniquely terrible vassals because they always seem to guarantee dhimmi autonomy and lean on autonomy increases to suppress rebels, and you can't even use your own missionaries to fix this. They end up with way too much local autonomy and rebels to be useful. So Muslims are better off switching to territories earlier and saving their relations slots for allies, especially with the favors system they have now, because vassals are terrible unless they are planned well ahead of time and based on provinces already Muslim, but they aren't going to be close to the action of conquering the East and West.

 

[kangaxx]

I'm getting a really annoying bug where I can't move troops to friendly islands from friendly provinces because "land movement blocked by hostile fort"... is this new? It's kind of demolishing a fun Naples save I have going.

Edit: also the estates box is heavily bugged these days.. summon diet getting stuck and monopolies being irrevocable. Paradox are clowns.

 

[Zariusz]

WUT?!

 

[NJClaw]

I propose banning every single user who posts screenshots instead of links.

 

[Zariusz]

I propose banning every single user who posts screenshots instead of links.

Well if you know glorious potato speech.
https://www.gry-online.pl/newsroom/victoria-3-nowa-gra-paradox-studios-wyciekla/z41fcf4
Maybe its fake or maybe not, we will see on PDXCON

 

[fantadomat]

WUT?!

Oh noooo,they are going to rape it. Also is the retard that made that boring generic garbage,stellaris...

 

[Sranchammer]

The South shall RISE again!

 

[Zariusz]

So it was true

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Optimistic sweating because of HoI4 modding support. Nervous sweating because of Leviathan's buggy release state.

but indecisive and contradictory.

 

[LizardWizard]

Optimistic sweating because of HoI4 modding support. Nervous sweating because of Leviathan's buggy release state.

but indecisive and contradictory.

You really giving PDX credit for OWB/Kassierach?