Expeditions: Conquistador Discussion Thread

[Niektory]

So what's the deal with this game? I'm reading several complaints about the lack of challenge yet the devs are saying that almost everyone is having problems coping with the difficulty. I would have expected this game to appeal to a fairly monocled audience...
Or does the game start out much harder?

The game is challenging enough at the beginning, especially on your first playthrough, but once you learn the mechanics and start getting more resources (which happens fairly early) it becomes piss-easy.

 

[Crooked Bee]

So what's the deal with this game? I'm reading several complaints about the lack of challenge yet the devs are saying that almost everyone is having problems coping with the difficulty. I would have expected this game to appeal to a fairly monocled audience...
Or does the game start out much harder?

The game is challenging enough at the beginning, especially on your first playthrough, but once you learn the mechanics and start getting more resources (which happens fairly early) it becomes piss-easy.

It all really depends on the followers you choose at the start -- blindly when you play the game for the first time, of course. With the right combination of followers, the game becomes pretty easy.

Still a nice effort and well worth the price, though.

 

[skyst]

Great game. Glad I picked it up.
Only lost the tournament 3rd stage so far. Still in Hispaniola, Insane doesnt seem too difficult but there is certainly a threat of a single failure spiraling out of control with the way camping is set up.

This has probably been mentioned a few times, but for anyone not yet aware Aguirre, the Wrath of God is a must watch movie relating to the time period about an expedition traveling in the middle of a hostile jungle.

I just finished watching the film and thought it was excellent, thank you for the recommendation.

 

[oscar]

I'm starting to get a lot of crashes after leaving Santa Domingo. At cutscenes, starts and endings of battles. Any idea what's up?

 

[Comrade Goby]

I saw an extremely culturally marxist convo. Fuck this game

 

[oscar]

Wtf

Tryanna or whatever that native wife girl is called cheated on the conquistador PC (getting cursed in the process) and he acts like nothing has happened. This mass-murdering badass gets cuckolded and his only thought is helping her out?

 

[Darth Roxor]

Difficulty: less resources.

Capitan Hobo Roxorowski then stumbles upon 7 crates of gear, all stashed on the very same small plain. One of them, in fact, rose out of the ground on his very eyes. Sometimes I wonder if those difficulty sliders even do anything.

Also, lol at random events: angry nun and random soldier become loverbirds. l0l

 

[Infinitron]

Expeditions: Conquistador reviews: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/expeditions-conquistador/critic-reviews

 

[Niektory]

It all really depends on the followers you choose at the start -- blindly when you play the game for the first time, of course. With the right combination of followers, the game becomes pretty easy.

Hmm, it may be true. I did play it safe with a balanced party.

Still a nice effort and well worth the price, though.

Yeah, I keep bitching about the difficulty but that doesn't mean I don't like the game. In fact I'm replaying it on Ironman right now.

 

[Haba]

At which point am I supposed to be able to recruit Esteban actually?

I've beat him twice now and when I ask him to join he whines about being defeated or some shit.

 

[Jaedar]

At which point am I supposed to be able to recruit Esteban actually?

I've beat him twice now and when I ask him to join he whines about being defeated or some shit.

did you back the game?

 

[Haba]

Of course, I wouldn't be asking otherwise.

 

[Jaedar]

Of course, I wouldn't be asking otherwise.

Spoiler

I got to do it when I defeated Esteban after the sacrifice. Dunno if there's some CnC involved or if you've run into a bug.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Hm, finished gaem, got mixed feelings. Did all there was to do, found everything there was to be found, including El Dorado and the fountain of youth, smashed all opposition with extreme prejudice, clocked 20 hours total.

I counted a whole total of three challenging fights in the whole game. Three. And two were only challenging because of overwhelming enemy forces.

These battles were: 1. Defending the governor's mansion in Hispaniola, 2. Defending your fortress, 3. Killing Moctezuma.

The fight against Moctezuma was something that SHOULD have been present throughout the whole goddamn game - you have 9 enemies who are made up of different types and ranks, sneaky spike traps all around, no set up time to spam ubercannon, it was all in all pretty neat. The two defensive battles need a lot of planning and positioning to get through successfully, and are satisfying as hell once you get through them without losses.

Now if only the same could be said about all the other fights in the rest of the friggin game, which were so ridiculously easy (all difficulty sliders maxed) and mostly boring it made me raeg. This was due to two biggest factors:

1. My entire expedition has maxed out levels and gear. AND YET I KEEP FIGHTING ALL THOSE RECRUITS AND MEN AT ARMS WTF, veterans+ only start popping up in the very last set pieces when storming the Tenochtitlan. I'm sure my 15% crit chances dudes with 65% damage reduction are gonna be very fucking offended by your silly arrows, mr recruit trapper.

2. Absolutely braindead AI. Well ok, maybe not absolutely, but it can't for shit handle its assets and skills. I've had sergeant aztec champions repeatedly shoot me with blowdarts, shamen cursing my doctor, trappers parking themselves 2 steps away from my heavy hitters, WTF. Also, it has absolutely no sense of manoevuring. I found out that the most important part in combat is basically to tie up as many enemies as possible, especially archers and shamen, to not let them shoop/run around and heal dudes. This can be easily achieved with some sneaking around and stunning. Meanwhile, the injuns have sneak on every damn warrior, and they ONLY use it to do flanking, never to get past your dudes and chop up the juicy hunter and doctor or whatever. Also, battle difficulty was easily measured before it started just by counting the number of enemy trappers - the AI can't handle archers for shit, they are total deadweight in its hands. It also has trouble focusing fire at times or spotting key threats. In some other fights that have multiple rooms or sections, it also can't understand how important it is to group up. When you start the battle and see '12 enemies remaining', it looks a bit menacing, but when in practice it boils down to clearing out three rooms of 4 dudes because lol why regroup, it's just pathetic.

Also, I wish I could do something with that 2.5k spare xp that I had at the end of the game. And I wish character/gear progression wasn't so shit in general.

Also2, I was kinda disappointed at the ending. I keep aiding both sides, Xalapa and Tenochtitlan, in the hope to weaken them both, then storm the Aztecs who are better warriors, hoping the pussy-ass Xalapa dudes will yield easily once the deed is done, only to learn that "my garrison is not big enough" to take Tenochtitlan for Spain? Well, if only that thing wasn't completely arbitrary and I had some ways of increasing the garrison amirite.

Also3, the story of the previous expedition comes into an end very abruptly and I think it's not really closed. I hoped there would be more stuff to it, including rebels or something because everything pointed to that.

But all in all, I'd be lying if I said that I didn't have fun with this game, although most of it came from riding around horseback killing things exploring the damn jungles, although THE FUCKING CAMERAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

So yeah, all in all it was addictive as all shit and had that "just one more turn" syndrome, but had some really annoying flaws that kept it away from greatness and made it more of a hiking simulator than a tacticool rpg. Solid 7.5 from the venerable Hobo Roxorowski

I can't see myself replaying this anytime soon, though. I cringe at the thought of slogging through all those trash mobs and horrible cameras again, and I don't think there's that much replay potential in it, unless you do something mofo and go full doctor expedition.

 

[oscar]

I'd advise people to wait a few weeks before getting this. Buggy as fuck. I've had crashes, disappearing maps and broken quests.

 

[Regvard]

Also2, I was kinda disappointed at the ending. I keep aiding both sides, Xalapa and Tenochtitlan, in the hope to weaken them both, then storm the Aztecs who are better warriors, hoping the pussy-ass Xalapa dudes will yield easily once the deed is done, only to learn that "my garrison is not big enough" to take Tenochtitlan for Spain? Well, if only that thing wasn't completely arbitrary and I had some ways of increasing the garrison amirite.

You need to wait for a ton of turns after you build the barracks and before you attack. You can go do a headcount there to see how many you have. Max. is 500.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Also2, I was kinda disappointed at the ending. I keep aiding both sides, Xalapa and Tenochtitlan, in the hope to weaken them both, then storm the Aztecs who are better warriors, hoping the pussy-ass Xalapa dudes will yield easily once the deed is done, only to learn that "my garrison is not big enough" to take Tenochtitlan for Spain? Well, if only that thing wasn't completely arbitrary and I had some ways of increasing the garrison amirite.

You need to wait for a ton of turns after you build the barracks and before you attack. You can go do a headcount there to see how many you have. Max. is 500.

Which is pretty stupid and arbitrary, wouldn't you say?

 

[Haba]

God damn faggot Esteban, how am I supposed to recruit him?

Spoiler

He is supposed to join right after the fight at the "sacrifice" quest, right? And not be "let to go alive" to return later or something?

Does waiting make a difference? Or did all of you just rush him at the earliest opportunity?

Or is the trinket tied to this somehow? I didn't ever even use it. FFFUUUUU

 

[Haba]

God damn faggot Esteban, how am I supposed to recruit him?

Spoiler

He is supposed to join right after the fight at the "sacrifice" quest, right? And not be "let to go alive" to return later or something?

Does waiting make a difference? Or did all of you just rush him at the earliest opportunity?

Or is the trinket tied to this somehow? I didn't ever even use it. FFFUUUUU

 

[Kattze]

Fuck, my Ironman playthrough bugged-out after finishing Hispaniola. I have to start all over (no more ironman for me).

 

[anus_pounder]

God damn faggot Esteban, how am I supposed to recruit him?

Spoiler

He is supposed to join right after the fight at the "sacrifice" quest, right? And not be "let to go alive" to return later or something?

Does waiting make a difference? Or did all of you just rush him at the earliest opportunity?

Or is the trinket tied to this somehow? I didn't ever even use it. FFFUUUUU

derp. roll 1 for reading comprehension. Well, I don't have the backer copy so I only know what the preview version told me, but I believe you simply ask him to join you after 'sacrifice' in order to get him. Of course, considering Esteban has some links with the other rebel, I'm guessing he may show up before/after the last fight of Hispaniola if you let him go?

EDIT: Whats this backer only trinket and what does it do, if anything?

 

[Spectacle]

God damn faggot Esteban, how am I supposed to recruit him?

Spoiler

He is supposed to join right after the fight at the "sacrifice" quest, right? And not be "let to go alive" to return later or something?

Does waiting make a difference? Or did all of you just rush him at the earliest opportunity?

Or is the trinket tied to this somehow? I didn't ever even use it. FFFUUUUU

Just had a look at the Expeditions kickstarter page, and it looks like Esteban is only for $30+ backers.

 

[Kattze]

For the new patch for non-steam, do you just redownload it from gog/gamersgate/wherever?

 

[Avonaeon]

For the new patch for non-steam, do you just redownload it from gog/gamersgate/wherever?

Yes. I suggest backing up your saves though, just to be safe. It shouldn't mess with them, but better safe than sorry.

 

[Sensuki]

Goodo they figured out how to do patches that don't require the full game files.