Fallout Fallout 4 Thread

[Endemic]

The whole problem with: "And then, nothing happened for 200 years.", is: how much of the USA is older than that? Not much. Most of it is younger.

Bethesda limiting themselves to 200 years after the war, is why NV couldn't mirror Fallout 1/2's level of development or atmosphere. It would be completely illogical over 70 years later in the same region as the NCR and Brotherhood existed.

 

[pippin]

fallout 5 to become a game about an ai confirmed

 

[Morblot]

Spoiler

It'll be a game about daddy issues.

 

[Jackalope]

Fallout 3: You must find your dad.
Fallout 4: You must find your son.
Fallout 5: You are your own dad, you must travel back in time to screw your mom.

 

[pippin]

Fallout 3: You must find your dad.
Fallout 4: You must find your son.
Fallout 5: You are your own dad, you must travel back in time to screw your mom.

Back to the Future meets Terminator?

 

[Morblot]

Your mom is no easy slut, though. To win her heart, you must kill at least 1000 raiders, 750 ghouls, 500 cliff racers and 250 deathclaws, in addition to collecting five full suits of power armor, reaching level 70 and doing at least 200 radiant quests. Oh, and you must also listen to Three-Dog's witty radio show for at least 50 hours; I hear she's a big fan.

 

[typical user]

The whole problem with: "And then, nothing happened for 200 years.", is: how much of the USA is older than that? Not much. Most of it is younger.

Bethesda limiting themselves to 200 years after the war, is why NV couldn't mirror Fallout 1/2's level of development or atmosphere. It would be completely illogical over 70 years later in the same region as the NCR and Brotherhood existed.

We can dispute New Vegas because it was mostly inhabited by tribals, separated by big mountains and without any valuable resources for NCR to expand (with Gecko Powerplant and knowledge how to build uranium power-generators like in Broken Hills I don't tihnk Hoover Dam is such a big deal for them, more like leverage to annex New Vegas from Mr. House). Think of Mojave as frontier that recently has been colonised. But I would actually like to see a game set in Nuclear Winter or some form of cataclysm before 2142 or 2242. Cassidy repeatedly mentions Midwest as a radioactive hole ravaged by tornados stretched into miles in the past. I would like to see that.

 

[pippin]

Cassidy repeatedly mentions Midwest as a radioactive hole ravaged by tornados stretched into miles in the past

So a whole game set in the Divide?
Any reference to the Midwest in future games will have in consideration FO: Tactics, since Bethesda chose to consider it canon.

 

[Excidium II]

(until Bethesda chooses to consider it not canon)

 

[Endemic]

Any reference to the Midwest in future games will have in consideration FO: Tactics, since Bethesda chose to consider it canon.

It's a relatively narrow corridor between Chicago and Denver that the MWBOS was working in though.

 

[Infinitron]

According to Lonesome Road, the Midwest also has some sort of Enclave outpost where ED-E stopped on his way west. Also, apparently there are 1950s-style families living somewhere out there, go figure.

 

[Excidium II]

his

 

[pippin]

his

ED-E identifies as an 8 year old cis-male, shitlord.

 

[Excidium II]

ED-E was always a girl to me.

 

[Bubbles]

ED-E is canonically male in the German translation, and Sawyer considers German to be the definitive language.

That would technically make him transgender and/or intersex, depending on how you interpret eyebot sexuality vis-a-vis human sexuality. On the other hand, we have no clear confirmation that ED-E actually self-identifies as male; in that case, it could be considered an asexual (or even transfemale) character incorrectly identified as male. But he/she/it is still a queer character either way.

 

[pippin]

Well ED-E is a robot,a thing, and no different than any eyebot made by the Enclave. The question about his identity comes from his experience with his creator, the guy from the Enclave, and a show which used to air before the War, I believe. You get this from ED-E's logs during Lonesome Road. He likes a robot which appeared there, and had an human friend, a kid. He likes you because the events of New Vegas allowed him to larp that robot.

Also, Lonesome Road makes FO3 canon, by mentioning characters from that game in ED-E's logs. I guess it's more painful than Bethesda making FO:T canon?

 

[Endemic]

Veronica references the Brotherhood offshoot as well, although without much detail.

 

[mediocrepoet]

ED-E is canonically male in the German translation, and Sawyer considers German to be the definitive language.

That would technically make him transgender and/or intersex, depending on how you interpret eyebot sexuality vis-a-vis human sexuality. On the other hand, we have no clear confirmation that ED-E actually self-identifies as male; in that case, it could be considered an asexual (or even transfemale) character incorrectly identified as male. But he/she/it is still a queer character either way.

 

[pippin]

Veronica references the Brotherhood offshoot as well, although without much detail.

That also makes Tactics sorta canon too. I can live in a world where Tactics is canon. But FO3... that makes Moira Brown canon, men.

 

[Endemic]

That also makes Tactics sorta canon too. I can live in a world where Tactics is canon. But FO3... that makes Moira Brown canon, men.

Pretty sure she meant Lyons' branch, in terms of working with outsiders: "...one chapter had a small civil war over it."

 

[pippin]

That also makes Tactics sorta canon too. I can live in a world where Tactics is canon. But FO3... that makes Moira Brown canon, men.

Pretty sure she meant Lyons' branch, in terms of working with outsiders: "...one chapter had a small civil war over it."

Yes but I meant it as making schism in the BoS possible, which also makes the concept of Tactics' BoS possible. Until then the BoS was a monolithic unit, with the same ideas and methods. Tactics fucked with the canon by making them like regular marines, fucking shit up and accepting everyone from outside, without considering if they were related to the original members of the Brotherhood, which was one of the reasons why the group was so small and secretive.

 

[Endemic]

Weren't they described as both an expeditionary force to hunt down supermutant survivors, and also a result of an internal schism? (with the airship convoy taking heavy losses in a storm, forcing down the survivors near Chicago)

Or was that a retcon introduced after Tactics' release?

 

[Metro]

What's with this weird offshoot discussion? Chicago will be whatever Bethesderp wants it to be. 90% or more of the people who play FO5 will probably not have played Tactics.

 

[Bubbles]

10% of FO5 players would probably mean about 2 million people. I'd say the number of returning FOT players will be closer to 50k.

 

[typical user]

You can always remake Tactics and Bethesda shit games with those parts of the story that are "canon". I think this would do the series a lot of good because right now it is a mess thanks to Fo:T, Fo3, Fo:NV and Fo4. I would like to see Fo1 and Fo2 remade too with FIXT and RP stuff and perhaps more. The lore needs to be sorted out because I can't understand how tiny eyebots have AI while in classic games only Skynet was something exrraordinary while rest self-aware computers were bulky and immobile. That and much more. The general idea of Tactics with Calculator isn't bad and probably Beth considers those bits canon hence "only major events from Tactics are canon".