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My problem is the HP bloat. I don't mind dying easy, but my enemies better not take 16 shots to the face. So the weapon damage mods that up the damage by 2-3 times along with survival mode make the game pretty fun imo
 

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I feel it's by far the worst of the Fallout series, but still compelling enough for a playthrough, and maybe even a re-play with some good mods. It lacks the intricacy of the first Fallout, the fun of FO3 and that sense of wonder that was New Vegas, but I give Bethesda kudos for trying a few different mechanics, like the settlements feature, though it was implemented rather poorly. And I like the idea that the modding community literally taught Bethesda how to make a fairly different and interesting game rather than the samo samo we would have gotten had that community not existed.

Tip for newcomers: as is the case for most of these ridiculously huge open world games, I recommend sticking closely to the main quests and DLC and not do too much exploring off the beaten path for a first play-through. It's far too easy to get burnout playing these things.
 

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I heard the Horizon mod corrects a lot of the irritations of Survival Mode. I mean, why should eating the roasted ass of a Super Mutant Hound cure me of radiation sickness? Shouldn't it make me sicker, causing my colon and bowel to shit myself to death because its DNA has been destroyed from scarfing down tainted radioactive meat? But then again, the mod author for Horizon lists thousands of changes, so it's one of those mods obviously. When in doubt, just lick a vanilla Fallout 4 cone, with maybe an unofficial patch, a music redux mod (even though Old World Radio Boston is vulgar and obviously DJed by retardos) or a good UI interface.
 

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Give it up give it up give it up give it up give it up.

There's nothing to salvage here. There was nothing to salvage in FO3 - well other than combining it with the atleast more life-like FONV through TOTW.

FO4 is not even 2 years old and it has already reached the waifu phase of modding - where the vast majority of mods seem to be character cosmetic mods/dolled up followers. By comparison, Oblivion didn't enter that phase until sometime around the release of Skyrim - 5 years later? And there are still surges of landscape and UI mods from time to time.

Skyrim, 6 years later, not counting SE, is still not fully in the waifu phase.

Mods like Sim Settlements are good - but the settlers still use the Bethesda AI™. No mod has fixed survival mode; they've made some annoyances less apparent, but it needs a complete overhaul - NV survival wasn't that bad, and it was really simple. Bethesda weren't happy with it apparently and made additions, but hit their head on some doors repeatedly in the process.

Exteriors aren't interesting, partly because of the extremely boring encounters and again AI. Interiors use the same few templates and the only purpose of interiors is to gather more junk for the horrible settlement mode.

Story is shit. Mechanics are shit. Companions, though some start out better than others, ultimately become stuck records you want to turn into bullet pincushions - some quicker than others.

To be fair, can't you blame the lack of decent mods on a lack of a proper script extender? I think even the barebones beta was released only recently.

Frankly I couldn't stand Fallout 4 for more than like...4-6 hours. It just sucked so damn bad. I'm still holding out hope for the VR version though, FO4 is a pretty terrible game but as a VR experience I feel like it would beat out everything else on the platform
only because there's no competition
 

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I normally don't play evil paths in RPGs but I always feel a certain gratification when the developers take into account a total shit thing you might do. So with that in mind, I felt a strange joy and freedom in New Vegas when I told Mr. Hand to go fuck himself, that I was going to utterly destroy his robot body guards and climb down into the Methuselah chamber where he kept his decrepit 200+ year old body alive in a hideous high tech iron-lung like device, and pump him full of .308 slugs as he lay there weezing and helpless. Josh Sawyer took such beautiful care in crafting this terrible alt.evil resolution. So in Fallout 4, I felt some of that old fashioned assholio joy return when I

sided against The Institute and my son, and left him to his terminal illness in his life-sustaining tube, looking so sad and forlorn that I betrayed him. I felt a pang of guilt and I just couldn't leave him like this, so I detonated a 20 megaton H-bomb on him and The Institute. I felt better that he suffered no more, as a true loving parent should

Who said Bethesda games has no C&C?
 
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I heard the Horizon mod corrects a lot of the irritations of Survival Mode. I mean, why should eating the roasted ass of a Super Mutant Hound cure me of radiation sickness? Shouldn't it make me sicker, causing my colon and bowel to shit myself to death because its DNA has been destroyed from scarfing down tainted radioactive meat? But then again, the mod author for Horizon lists thousands of changes, so it's one of those mods obviously. When in doubt, just lick a vanilla Fallout 4 cone, with maybe an unofficial patch, a music redux mod (even though Old World Radio Boston is vulgar and obviously DJed by retardos) or a good UI interface.

Immersive Gameplay (yeah I know) has many interesting changes as well, but unfortunately it heavily favors stealth archer sniper. I've read horror stories of a bloodbug one hitting a player in power armor. :M The author used to be a tank commander in the Israeli army so I guess this gave him a "lol melee" mentality.

 
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I tend to avoid using power armor in Fallout 4. I hate the more limited field of view like I'm in an ancient diving suit and it always feels like I'm cheesing it because it feels overpowered. I also weened myself off of VATS because, again, it can feel like I'm cheesing it. I'm looking for a good overhaul mod to play on my next playthrough that doesn't have "thousands of changes" that I can use with a maybe a few settlement mods like Better Settlers and Sim Settlements. Maybe throw in those Raider & Super Mutant Redux mods too, though I understand the latter introduces lvl scaling. Frost looks interesting though it might be boring because there are few goals to attain other than just surviving.

It's interesting and rather cool that some of these mods are made by real-life military commanders and not just armchair PC war gaming geeks-generals.
 

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Is there an ending in F04 where you get to fight against or alongside Liberty Prime? In my playthrough of FO4 I sided with those goddamn Underground Railroad do-gooders (the worst faction, I'm sure). I don't know what the fuck I was thinking. I didn't like having to kill all my Brotherhood of Steel brethren.
 

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The Brotherhood ending is just escorting Liberty Prime through shitty hordes of teleporting robits until he can blow up the sciencefags if I recall correctly.
 

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The Brotherhood ending is just escorting Liberty Prime through shitty hordes of teleporting robits until he can blow up the sciencefags if I recall correctly.

In other words, a complete retread of the Broken Steel DLC for the original Fallout 3. Not very imaginative to be doing a Liberty Prime-Broken Steel redux for FO4 though I did enjoy that DLC. I want to play a path where I single-handedly have to go one-on-one against Liberty Prime where, say, I get to climb him to the top before popping his cork like in that Colossus game for the PS2. Sorry, that sounded sexual.
 

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The Brotherhood ending is just escorting Liberty Prime through shitty hordes of teleporting robits until he can blow up the sciencefags if I recall correctly.

In other words, a complete retread of the Broken Steel DLC for the original Fallout 3. Not very imaginative to be doing a Liberty Prime-Broken Steel redux for FO4 though I did enjoy that DLC. I want to play a path where I single-handedly have to go one-on-one against Liberty Prime where, say, I get to climb him to the top before popping his cork like in that Colossus game for the PS2. Sorry, that sounded sexual.
Also do the same thing in Take it Back in FO3 main quest.
 

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Anyone knows a fix for horrendous fps lag in Downtown? I wanted to play this game again with 300 mods but playing in 15 fps in some areas is huge turn-off.
 

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Even on my Intel i5 3.9 GHz Nvidia GTX 1070-based system I get lag in downtown Boston in FO4. Of course, I'm one of those that needs 60 FPS like a junkie needs junk. You could probably crank down the detail level but who the hell wants to do that in this day and age?
 

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Anyone knows a fix for horrendous fps lag in Downtown? I wanted to play this game again with 300 mods but playing in 15 fps in some areas is huge turn-off.
From what I remember it is the shadows the cause the hitching. I basically just modded my game so it's raining all the time so low shadow distance isn't noticeable
 

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I used Shadow Boost but that thing causes massive lag in areas like Lexington. I tried lowering details but to no success. Everywhere else I get solid 60 fps, I could even add stuff like lush grass but Downtown is horrific experience.
 

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The Brotherhood ending is just escorting Liberty Prime through shitty hordes of teleporting robits until he can blow up the sciencefags if I recall correctly.

Also, it spouts MURICA propaganda the whole time. I think it was meant to be satire, but instead it just made me cringe.
 

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