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Lilura

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Do these people also play Elder Scrolls games unmodded, because its more "authentic"?

No, I don't play Elder Scrolls at all - because it's shit.

Do they replay VTMB without the unofficial patch

I've played all Interplay, Black Isle and Troika games without mods, on and off, since their inception.

I love the old games, bugs and all.

It's better than some scrub coming along 20 years later, telling me how to play. One fix-mod that I think is worthy is Temple+ (but I still recommend the original over it).
 

octavius

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My problem with these kinds of mods is that they change the nature of the game. When you shove Fallout and Baldur's Gate into sequel engines, thousands of things change, but the modders usually document only changes that they think are marketable to the mainstream community, such as "convenience" and "aesthetic" changes (Beamdog being the prime example). They rarely bother documenting how their mod adversely affects the original, authoritative experience. Which is where commentators/critics come in.

Why on earth would a IE veteran who is also a combatfag ever play vanilla BG again? Already in my first playthrough the game started boring me because it was too easy with no Call for Help scripts, for example.
Sword Coast Strategems elevates a mediocre game (in the opinion of this combatfag, at least) to a minor masterpiece.
 
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[Why on earth would a IE veteran who is also a combatfag ever play vanilla BG again? Already in my first playthrough the game started boring me because it was too easy with no Call for Help scripts, for example. Sword Coast Strategems elevates a medicore game (in the opinion of this combatfag, at least) to a minor masterpiece.

It seems you're a victim of early onset dementia? I've written what amounts to an essay on this topic.

Now, go and play IWD2. I want to read what you write about it (I enjoyed your IWD write-up).
 

Curratum

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I don't think Lilura is capable of producing three posts in a row without the word "authoritative" in them.

The equivalent of this level of autism is telling people who don't play Doom or Quake in the DOS .exe are doing it wrong and are missing out on the "authoritative" experience of those games.
 

Grauken

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I don't think Lilura is capable of producing three posts in a row without the word "authoritative" in them.

The equivalent of this level of autism is telling people who don't play Doom or Quake in the DOS .exe are doing it wrong and are missing out on the "authoritative" experience of those games.

You're overlooking that both Doom and Quake are open-sourced
 
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Curratum

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I don't think Lilura is capable of producing three posts in a row without the word "authoritative" in them.

The equivalent of this level of autism is telling people who don't play Doom or Quake in the DOS .exe are doing it wrong and are missing out on the "authoritative" experience of those games.

You're overlooking that both Doom and Quake are open-sourced

Are you implying that Beamdog did not have access to Baldur's Gate source code, because they did...
 

Strange Fellow

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
I don't think Lilura is capable of producing three posts in a row without the word "authoritative" in them.

The equivalent of this level of autism is telling people who don't play Doom or Quake in the DOS .exe are doing it wrong and are missing out on the "authoritative" experience of those games.

You're overlooking that both Doom and Quake are open-sourced
So is Jagged Alliance 2. It doesn't seem to matter. :M
 

Grauken

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I don't think Lilura is capable of producing three posts in a row without the word "authoritative" in them.

The equivalent of this level of autism is telling people who don't play Doom or Quake in the DOS .exe are doing it wrong and are missing out on the "authoritative" experience of those games.

You're overlooking that both Doom and Quake are open-sourced

Are you implying that Beamdog did not have access to Baldur's Gate source code, because they did...

more like vultures picking apart corpses than proper open source ports
 

whydoibother

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I don't think Lilura is capable of producing three posts in a row without the word "authoritative" in them.
The equivalent of this level of autism is telling people who don't play Doom or Quake in the DOS .exe are doing it wrong and are missing out on the "authoritative" experience of those games.
Can it really be an authoritative experience if you don't have an old CRT monitor, a mechanical ball mouse, and homework to do instead of playing?
 
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Lilura

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I don't think Lilura is capable of producing three posts in a row without the word "authoritative" in them.

And for the last six months, you haven't been able to post three times in a row without mentioning me.

This topic was on-topic before the troll-'tards dropped in.

Also, to the 'tard who sarcastically asked if I play on cathode raytube, I actually do. From my blog:

sony%2Btrinitron%2Bcrt.jpg
 

jaydee2k

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HERESY! Who needs something like this. Fallout is fine how it is.
Playing as a bald-headed vault dweller? Ah come on...
Same counts for extra weapons etc...

EDIT: NOT TO MENTION THE PUNK GIRL :lol:

And don't get me started on Fallout Fixt you morons. When youre in the desperate need to tweak Fallout
a little bit do it by yourselfs. Isn't that difficult to install team x patches or sfall.
But stay away from Fixt. Broken crap!
 

Luckmann

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I don't think Lilura is capable of producing three posts in a row without the word "authoritative" in them.
The equivalent of this level of autism is telling people who don't play Doom or Quake in the DOS .exe are doing it wrong and are missing out on the "authoritative" experience of those games.
Can it really be an authoritative experience if you don't have an old CRT monitor, a mechanical ball mouse, and homework to do instead of playing?
Implying the homework mattered.
 

Lexx

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Party members doing their own thing is the better experience, imo. However, being able to set combat distance, preferred weapon, the amount of burst to apply, etc. is an improvement I don't want to miss anymore.
 
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I fail to see the appeal of making the first game like Fallout 2. Fallout 1 was a amazing game, with memorable characters, quests, combats and a very interesting world. Fallout 2 cut out almost everything of interest: The game is wildly unbalanced, so boring and repetitive and lacking in interesting quests and characters and a horrible slog whose only appeal is the combat and the endgame, which is the only exciting part.
 

Lexx

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I fail to see the appeal of making the first game like Fallout 2. Fallout 1 was a amazing game, with memorable characters, quests, combats and a very interesting world. Fallout 2 cut out almost everything of interest: The game is wildly unbalanced, so boring and repetitive and lacking in interesting quests and characters and a horrible slog whose only appeal is the combat and the endgame, which is the only exciting part.

Ok but nothing of that was changed. Do you think we added trashmob dungeons to Fo1, cut interesting quest and replaced existing characters with boring ones?
 

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