Squeenix Final Fantasy VII Remake Integrade - now on Steam

[Doktor Best]

I always wanted to play the hard type mod together with retranslation. Is this possible by now?

 

[RK47]

 

[Duraframe300]

The combat in Kingdom Hearts is better.

We need to talk here about which Kingdom Hearts considering that combat more or less declined too, but in general yeah.

 

[Archwizard Hank]

This observation is no doubt stale and moldy by now, but to me, the greatest loss in the transition to the remake is the ability to rename all the playable characters

 

[Bahamut]

Some remade original fields, kinda amazed somone bothers:

Plus some nice character remodels:

 

[abnaxus]

 

[sullynathan]

looks like anime

 

[Perkel]

It is funny how my opinion changed over the years when it comes to FF games. First FF7 was the best, Then FF8, Then FF6 and finally i arrived at FF9. And i played FF8 first, FF7, FF9 and FF6 in that order.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

In modder drama, the Reunion mod (best known for its FF7 retranslation) got taken down because a rival modder went apeshit because according to him DLPB violated GPL.
Due to DLPB's uhm not really being the type of person to take crap, this ended up with multiple pages of angry shouting at each other and armchair lawering (including apparently the involvement of a real lawyer with a possible lawsuit being discussed). Also the ephiphany that GLP3 inherently sucks.

But what, what you may ask is this grave violation of coding that has occured that justified everyone going apeshit and lawering up?

2. 2 random ass calls to a dll.

Modders, man. Modders.

He's not wrong, that's (most likely by the common interpretation) a license violation.
GPL is viral, by linking against it you are subject to the terms of the GPL.

 

[Melcar]

Most of the drama fro GPL comes from people not understanding exactly what the license entails. So yes, just like with any license, if you use it you are bound to its terms.

 

[Duraframe300]

In modder drama, the Reunion mod (best known for its FF7 retranslation) got taken down because a rival modder went apeshit because according to him DLPB violated GPL.
Due to DLPB's uhm not really being the type of person to take crap, this ended up with multiple pages of angry shouting at each other and armchair lawering (including apparently the involvement of a real lawyer with a possible lawsuit being discussed). Also the ephiphany that GLP3 inherently sucks.

But what, what you may ask is this grave violation of coding that has occured that justified everyone going apeshit and lawering up?

2. 2 random ass calls to a dll.

Modders, man. Modders.

He's not wrong, that's (most likely by the common interpretation) a license violation.
GPL is viral, by linking against it you are subject to the terms of the GPL.

It wasn't nearly as black and white a situation as that. What it came down to was just the interpretation of the wording of the GLP3 and how its applied (There was never any actual lack of credit). I'd personally argue DLPB was in the right as well. That's why I mentioned armchair lawering. Because it came literary down to that.

In short much, much ado about nothing. Especially nothing, because again those specific 2 calls. Anyway, calls were removed, mod is up again.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

In modder drama, the Reunion mod (best known for its FF7 retranslation) got taken down because a rival modder went apeshit because according to him DLPB violated GPL.
Due to DLPB's uhm not really being the type of person to take crap, this ended up with multiple pages of angry shouting at each other and armchair lawering (including apparently the involvement of a real lawyer with a possible lawsuit being discussed). Also the ephiphany that GLP3 inherently sucks.

But what, what you may ask is this grave violation of coding that has occured that justified everyone going apeshit and lawering up?

2. 2 random ass calls to a dll.

Modders, man. Modders.

He's not wrong, that's (most likely by the common interpretation) a license violation.
GPL is viral, by linking against it you are subject to the terms of the GPL.

It wasn't nearly as black and white a situation as that. What it came down to was just the interpretation of the wording of the GLP3 and how its applied (There was never any actual lack of credit). I'd personally argue DLPB was in the right as well. That's why I mentioned armchair lawering. Because it came literary down to that.

In short much, much ado about nothing. Especially nothing, because again those specific 2 calls. Anyway, calls were removed, mod is up again.

Linking against a GPL project means you must release your project under the GPL.

 

[Sigourn]

Unfff, mommy Scarlett and milkies Tifa.

 

[Duraframe300]

Linking against a GPL project means you must release your project under the GPL.

If there's ever legal precedent for 2 random ass draw calls to be enough to claim this you would literary destroy the entire closed source market. Would result in the biggest legal fuckeroo in computing history.

Not gonna happen.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Linking against a GPL project means you must release your project under the GPL.

If there's ever legal precedent for 2 random ass draw calls to be enough to claim this you would literary destroy the entire closed source market. Would result in the biggest legal fuckeroo in computing history.

Not gonna happen.

It doesn't matter how small the violation was, the license was violated.
Don't like it? Don't use their software.

 

[Duraframe300]

Linking against a GPL project means you must release your project under the GPL.

If there's ever legal precedent for 2 random ass draw calls to be enough to claim this you would literary destroy the entire closed source market. Would result in the biggest legal fuckeroo in computing history.

Not gonna happen.

It doesn't matter how small the violation was, the license was violated.
Don't like it? Don't use their software.

Its not his software. Furthermore its a dll DLPB modified and improved himself (and is given credit for it by the current team working on it). The guy who came after DLPB did diddely squat in comparison.

And yes, it does matter. Thats the whole reason for a shitton of discussions in the open source community. Especially for it having any chance to stand up in court.
The moment this would be claimed ANY closed source software would be fair game. Because most have at least a couple (way more than 2) uses for 7zip, ffmepg or whateveryoucanthinkoff in it. They include the licenses, yes.(So does/did DLPB) But they're still all closed source

If randos could enforce that shit legally on that level all hell would break loose.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Because most have at least a couple (way more than 2) uses for 7zip, ffmepg or whateveryoucanthinkoff in it.

Neither of those are released under the GPL, they're released under the LGPL which has a linking exception specifically for this purpose.
Please stop, you're making a fool of yourself.

 

[Duraframe300]

Because most have at least a couple (way more than 2) uses for 7zip, ffmepg or whateveryoucanthinkoff in it.

Neither of those are released under the GPL, they're released under the LGPL which has a linking exception specifically for this purpose.
Please stop, you're making a fool of yourself.

True (writing at 12 pm let's you go to the easiest examples even when wrong).

Point still stands, because its way more. Would not hold up in court, is still highly debated.

https://softwareengineering.stackex...c-linking-rule-apply-to-interpreted-languages

However, this is questionable from legal point of view. In the only case that actually went to court regarding dynamic linking — Galoob v. Nintendo — Court of Appeals ruled that derivative work "must incorporate a portion of the copyrighted work in some form". Which is not the case with dynamic linking.

That whole thread is now 8 years old, but I'm just using it as an example of the whole debate. Unless of course there's been a recent legal development or outright precedent that clears the whole thing up and actually makes it black and white. If there is I fully submit, if there isn't, not gonna change my opinion.

But again, whole thing's over anyway, so I leave with that.

 

[MasPingon]

Unfff, mommy Scarlett and milkies Tifa.

Jesus Christ, Tifa looks like Kotaku/Polygon editor.

 

[Duraframe300]

Some remade original fields, kinda amazed somone bothers:

Plus some nice character remodels:

Charachter models are ugly and I have no idea why you'd pair those shiny new backgrounds with models in the original artstyle. An artstyle that:

A: Is just a carry over from the initial N64 prototypes.
B: Clashes with loads of the FMV cutscenes in the game itself. Which probably Square themselves weren't happy with considering they did much smoother and closer transistions in VIII and IX.

Edit: Also why are the screenshots stretched of all things?

 

[Jason Liang]

Poor Tifa didn't do anything to deserve this but youtube recommended this for me so

 

[AngryKobold]

I plan to give the original a try as soon as ninostyle is done with all main characters.

 

[Delterius]

Totally believable that the multiple faggot freak kids in FF12's cast save the damn world.

the party's average age is probably 30 years old even when you discount the playboy elf

 

[Tigranes]

Game A: Grizzled veteran resistance leader, freakishly powerful half-human enigma created by mad scientist, a literal rocket scientist, the last survivor of a powerful ancient race, all follow the lead of a 24-year old superemo sociopath whose one saving grace was his pedigree was an elite soldier but turns out he wasn't an elite soldier at all but an army reject

Game B: Grizzled veteran resistance leader, Princess Leia, Han Solo et al. make plans, negotiate, and lead dangerous missions for the resistance cause, while a couple of teenagers follow along for no discernible reason

I don't even know, really.

 

[Delterius]

for no discernible reason

executive meddling