Games for people with depression

[Verylittlefishes]

There are so many defense mechanisms. Consider an intellectual with a fuckton of rationalization.

. Many do CBT that's surface-level bullshit for people who don't have any real problems

This one defense is called devaluation iirc.

 

[hoothoot]

Return to Castle Wolfenstein playthroughs always make me feel good

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Who the hell cares about therapists? It's all crap.

Obligatory (re)posting:

 

[Verylittlefishes]

Who the hell cares about therapists? It's all crap.

While it is true that average therapist would not understand intellectual problems of reclusive genius (which are obviously dwell in Codex) he could understand and solve the basic stupidly simplistic problems with head which consist 99% of everything (see incel thread)

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Who the hell cares about therapists? It's all crap.

While it is true that average therapist would not understand intellectual problems of reclusive genius (which are obviously dwell in Codex) he could understand and solve the basic stupidly simplistic problems with head which consist 99% of everything (see incel thread)

Therapists just open a Pandora's box in their patients' heads. However you wish to frame it, therapy is a business at the end of the day and recurring sessions is where the big money's at.

People like incels and 'doomers' who wallow in self-pity are unwilling to change and thus therapy is useless. As for those who are willing, they can change by enduring, not by opening up to a therapist and yapping their mouth about their feelings akin to a housewife.

 

[Van-d-all]

Actual Sunlight

 

[Verylittlefishes]

Who the hell cares about therapists? It's all crap.

While it is true that average therapist would not understand intellectual problems of reclusive genius (which are obviously dwell in Codex) he could understand and solve the basic stupidly simplistic problems with head which consist 99% of everything (see incel thread)

Therapists just open a Pandora's box in their patient's heads. However you wish to frame it, therapy is a business at the end of the day and recurring sessions is where the big money's at.

People like incels and 'doomers' who wallow in self-pity are unwilling to change and thus therapy is useless. As for those who are willing, they can change by enduring, not by opening up to a therapist and yapping their mouth about their feelings akin to a housewife.

As said Zaratustra "hahaha you pussies, die already or become Ubermensch!"

 

[Verylittlefishes]

Actual Sunlight

This game by a fat desperate wannabe writer about how he is fat and desperate and wannabe writer and jump from the roof in the end?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

As said Zaratustra "hahaha you pussies, die already or become Ubermensch!"

Nice strawman, bro.

As said Magnat, get prescribed pills by a psychiatrist if you need 'em or just man up if your problems are of mind(set) and not of body.

 

[Van-d-all]

Actual Sunlight

This game by a fat desperate wannabe writer about how he is fat and desperate and wannabe writer and jump from the roof in the end?

I bet it cured his depression.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Actual Sunlight

This game by a fat desperate wannabe writer about how he is fat and desperate and wannabe writer and jump from the roof in the end?

I bet it cured his depression.

Thought you meant actual, actual sunlight. Brofist retracted.

 

[Van-d-all]

Actual Sunlight

This game by a fat desperate wannabe writer about how he is fat and desperate and wannabe writer and jump from the roof in the end?

I bet it cured his depression.

Thought you meant actual, actual sunlight. Brofist retracted.

Tried to stay on topic. That being said, the cringyness of this game is somewhat cathartic. Author's self realization I guess.

 

[Verylittlefishes]

I think in metaphorical sense The Void (Тургор) by Ice Pick Lodge is about overcoming depression. Like, every element in this game is screaming about it.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

As said Magnat, get prescribed pills by a psychiatrist if you need 'em or just man up if your problems are of mind(set) and not of body.

Ilu dude, but 'man up' isn't a solution. Trauma isn't something you can simply force your way past -- it's nothing to do with personal strength if you're struggling with flashbacks or dissociating hard. Ultimately such a self-repressive stance is just slowly adding another layer to one's problems.

Well, that's already in the domain of psychiatry and thus therapy represents a valid medical practice. Therapy as some sort of self-improvement™ on the other hand is just a means through which snake oil salesmen with a degree in psychology make a living off gullible fools.

 

[Snorkack]

Ah, the 'just toughen up lol' brainlets finally arrived. I started worrying already.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Ah, the 'just toughen up lol' brainlets finally arrived. I started worrying already.

Yes, goy; just spend your money on Mr. Shekelberg's therapy sessions instead of actually getting your shit in order and using that money for your own betterment in the process.

Therapy is good when it is part of the psychiatric treatment applied to the mentally ill. For underachieving, but psychologically normal people it is just a means of engaging in woe-is-me behavior without feeling ashamed for being a self-indulgent whiner.

 

[Theodora]

Ah, the 'just toughen up lol' brainlets finally arrived. I started worrying already.

Don't mind Maxie, he hasn't had his dog treats this morning and finds any sign of human authenticity upsetting.

Well, that's already in the domain of psychiatry and thus therapy represents a valid medical practice. Therapy as some sort of self-improvement™ on the other hand is just a means through which snake oil salesmen with a degree in psychology make a living off gullible fools.

I guess I'm just confused where one can actiually draw a useful line to separate one from the. I didn't post about my own shit for its own sake so much as that when I was a tween or whatever, it presented itself less seriously, but not getting it attended to then contributed to me becoming a Certified Crazy. (Where I grew up they didn't diagnose it because they didn't have anyone to treat it and wanted to avoid bad statistics, lol...)

 

[Curratum]

For underachieving, but psychologically normal people it is just a means of engaging in woe-is-me behavior without feeling ashamed for being a self-indulgent whiner.

I don't agree with the prices for extended therapy, but I also don't think it's useless in a lot of cases. Then again, a month ago, I met someone with a PC that costs 4x as much as mine, hanging out on a discord playing games, without having worked a single day in his life, while the Finnish government is paying him nearly a thousand Euro each month and covers all his therapy bills, which I frankly find insane.

His story was something like "I was very shy as a kid, was bullied at school, my grades were bad and I got so depressed, I never try to find a job, so now I live on government money and have been doing absolutely nothing for the past 10 years."

 

[Verylittlefishes]

just spend your money on Mr. Shekelberg's therapy sessions

 

[Heroic Liberator]

For underachieving, but psychologically normal people it is just a means of engaging in woe-is-me behavior without feeling ashamed for being a self-indulgent whiner.

I don't agree with the prices for extended therapy, but I also don't think it's useless in a lot of cases. Then again, a month ago, I met someone with a PC that costs 4x as much as mine, hanging out on a discord playing games, without having worked a single day in his life, while the Finnish government is paying him nearly a thousand Euro each month and covers all his therapy bills, which I frankly find insane.

His story was something like "I was very shy as a kid, was bullied at school, my grades were bad and I got so depressed, I never try to find a job, so now I live on government money and have been doing absolutely nothing for the past 10 years."

It's an issue of worldview. Therapy nowadays tends to function on the 'Murrican notion of "everyone can be a winner!" instead of being there for those that have actual psychological issues.

Some people just aren't meant to be 'normal', being underachievers in this or that domain of their life. There is nothing inherently wrong or abnormal in that and there is nothing to be fixed through therapy.

 

[Snorkack]

Magnat, your post is so incredibly dumb; I refrain from quoting it because you probably want to delete it and pretend that it never existed - you have my sympathies for that.
Now I don't know how situation's like where you live, but let me explain how psychotherapy works here: It's free of charge for the client, the health insurance pays for 25 sessions or more if necessary. So here your antisemitism already falls flat on the nose. Do you know who pays big money? The therapists. Once you got your psychology or medical degree, you have to go through a several years long expensive training, including holding several hundred supervised and unpaid therapy sessions, before you are allowed to call yourself a psychotherapist and help people. This is because health care wants to ensure people are actually qualified to offer therapy, instead of just prescribing pills or telling people to 'just toughen up, lol'.
By the way, do you know how Mr Shekelberg actually makes big money? Let me tell you: By generously prescribing Feel-Good pills with minimal time investment for consultation.
As for your second paragraph: Depression is a mental illness.

 

[Theodora]

Magnat: I've nothing against the idea that middle class people love to pay money to feel important; but I think it's easy to generalise that, whereas an awful lot of psychologists are basically only dealing with trauma (rape/abuse survivors, queer kids, war veterans, that kinda stuff).

It's a bit like being overly critical of wellfare because of a minority of people abusing it.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

For underachieving, but psychologically normal people it is just a means of engaging in woe-is-me behavior without feeling ashamed for being a self-indulgent whiner.

I don't agree with the prices for extended therapy, but I also don't think it's useless in a lot of cases. Then again, a month ago, I met someone with a PC that costs 4x as much as mine, hanging out on a discord playing games, without having worked a single day in his life, while the Finnish government is paying him nearly a thousand Euro each month and covers all his therapy bills, which I frankly find insane.

His story was something like "I was very shy as a kid, was bullied at school, my grades were bad and I got so depressed, I never try to find a job, so now I live on government money and have been doing absolutely nothing for the past 10 years."

no wonder finnish people hate each other so much.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Magnat, your post is so incredibly dumb; I refrain from quoting it because you probably want to delete it and pretend that it never existed - you have my sympathies for that.
Now I don't know how situation's like where you live, but let me explain how psychotherapy works here: It's free of charge for the client, the health insurance pays for 25 sessions or more if necessary. So here your antisemitism already falls flat on the nose. Do you know who pays big money? The therapists. Once you got your psychology or medical degree, you have to go through a several years long expensive training, including holding several hundred supervised and unpaid therapy sessions, before you are allowed to call yourself a psychotherapist and help people. This is because health care wants to ensure people are actually qualified to offer therapy, instead of just prescribing pills or telling people to 'just toughen up, lol'.
By the way, do you know how Mr Shekelberg actually makes big money? Let me tell you: By generously prescribing Feel-Good pills with minimal time investment for consultation.
As for your second paragraph: Depression is a mental illness.

I wasn't talking about your 'here', comrade; so yes, I stand by what I said. Private practices that are open to one and all without any medical referral are a scam and I am against them. Just because you have institutionalized, insurance-paid whining sessions in the West does not make it an universal phenomenon (though I do applaud that it offers the possibility for consultation when it is needed). My main issue with the willy-nilly promotion of therapy going around nowadays is that it promotes a culture of victimhood and removes the self-accountability of people for their own shortcomings in life. I acknowledge the fact that depression is a mental illness, yet most of those that claim to be depressed are simply mushy-wushy, woe-is-me crybabies trying to mask their innate inferiority by way of a medical label (or even exalt it as a virtue, as many self-diagnosed retards do online).

As for your point on psychiatrists 'generously prescribing Feel-Good pills', that is just as much a part of my critique of unnecessary therapy. By applying this sort of misguided biological determinism to human behavior, you end up making a pathology out of every deviant behavior, even when it is a result of poor thought rather than poor (mental) health. So yes, therapy is more often than not a mistake and a fraud when applied to the life issues of the entire population.

 

[Burning Bridges]

One of my Dx means the emotional control part of my brain is about 15% smaller than it's meant to be; and in turn, the same Dx gives you a 5-10% chance of dying by suicide.

Stop it, you're cracking me up. Has he shown you a printout where that "emotional control part" of your brain can be seen, so I can give you a second opinion?

Ilu dude, but 'man up' isn't a solution. Trauma isn't something you can simply force your way past -- it's nothing to do with personal strength if you're struggling with flashbacks or dissociating hard. Ultimately such a self-repressive stance is just slowly adding another layer to one's problems.

Yeah it isn't a solution, but it is an action. This is what you don't get: that you are only worrying about the outcome but what we want you to do is only to take action, and take it now.