God DAMN Divinity II is addictive

[Emily]

Are you saying game is not utterly easy? 0,o
Also imbalanced? : S

 

[Admiral jimbob]

Who is this twat?

 

[ManjuShri]

Last time I played DKS I got up to the expansion; did I see the ending of the first section/game or was it just a new segue to the expansion?

 

[empi]

Why would anyone say this game is better then say DA2 is beyound me
I played it for like 5 hours, litteraly forcing myself to see something of value here
Game is utter shit, it is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sooooooooooo easy, i played on hard, you just go around killing stuff, with no problem what so ever.
What is even rpg in here? You just go around kill stuff, get loot. I would rather play Diablo 2 then this anytime, much better game than this. It is also very imbalanced and shity, with bunch of skills that do nothing.

0/10

(i'm being generous)

 

[DraQ]

Last time I played DKS I got up to the expansion; did I see the ending of the first section/game

Yes.

There was a lot of butthurt back when it was released.

 

[Emily]

Why would anyone say this game is better then say DA2 is beyound me
I played it for like 5 hours, litteraly forcing myself to see something of value here
Game is utter shit, it is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sooooooooooo easy, i played on hard, you just go around killing stuff, with no problem what so ever.
What is even rpg in here? You just go around kill stuff, get loot. I would rather play Diablo 2 then this anytime, much better game than this. It is also very imbalanced and shity, with bunch of skills that do nothing.

0/10

(i'm being generous)

again i ask.
So you are saying the game is hard and balanced? therefore my argument is trollish?

 

[empi]

Why would anyone say this game is better then say DA2 is beyound me
I played it for like 5 hours, litteraly forcing myself to see something of value here
Game is utter shit, it is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sooooooooooo easy, i played on hard, you just go around killing stuff, with no problem what so ever.
What is even rpg in here? You just go around kill stuff, get loot. I would rather play Diablo 2 then this anytime, much better game than this. It is also very imbalanced and shity, with bunch of skills that do nothing.

0/10

(i'm being generous)

again i ask.
So you are saying the game is hard and balanced? therefore my argument is trollish?

I'm saying that if you think the funnest AAA (ish) RPG to be released for a few years is shit, you're trolling or an idiot. Based on all your other posts, i'd say a troll, could easily still be an idiot though.

 

[Emily]

Why would anyone say this game is better then say DA2 is beyound me
I played it for like 5 hours, litteraly forcing myself to see something of value here
Game is utter shit, it is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sooooooooooo easy, i played on hard, you just go around killing stuff, with no problem what so ever.
What is even rpg in here? You just go around kill stuff, get loot. I would rather play Diablo 2 then this anytime, much better game than this. It is also very imbalanced and shity, with bunch of skills that do nothing.

0/10

(i'm being generous)

again i ask.
So you are saying the game is hard and balanced? therefore my argument is trollish?

I'm saying that if you think the funnest AAA (ish) RPG to be released for a few years is shit, you're trolling or an idiot. Based on all your other posts, i'd say a troll, could easily still be an idiot though.

I am sorry, i don't consider funny to be an good thing for an RPG.
And why are you talking in such a manner to me? I showed no disrespect towards you, and no harsh language...?
If you want to fight over internet, then fine, i don't. I prefer an civilised discusion!

 

[abnaxus]

There was a lot of butthurt back when it was released.

And it was glorious. :manlytear:

 

[DraQ]

I am sorry, i don't consider funny to be an good thing for an RPG.

Fallouts? Wizardry 8? Anachronox (ok, not RPG)?

There was a lot of butthurt back when it was released.

And it was glorious. :manlytear:

 

[Admiral jimbob]

I am sorry, i don't consider funny to be an good thing for an RPG.

Tell me about how RPGs began in 1997

 

[Emily]

I am sorry, i don't consider funny to be an good thing for an RPG.

Fallouts? Wizardry 8? Anachronox (ok, not RPG)?

There was a lot of butthurt back when it was released.

And it was glorious. :manlytear:

Tell me about how RPGs began in 1997

Are those games good because of humour, as empi said " how could i say that the FUNNIEST rpg was no good", or are those games good because something else? What do you think?
Personaly i didn't enjoy fallout for its humour, but for it's other qualities, and i am pretty damn sure i am not the only one.

 

[Roguey]

Game is utter shit, it is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sooooooooooo easy, i played on hard, you just go around killing stuff, with no problem what so ever.

DKS difficulty was nerfed a lot, though ED wasn't exactly fun difficulty.

What is even rpg in here? You just go around kill stuff, get loot. I would rather play Diablo 2 then this anytime, much better game than this. It is also very imbalanced and shity, with bunch of skills that do nothing.

So true. But there are quests where you can make different decisions. I thought it was neat how some of them even change if you refuse to do them.

 

[empi]

I am sorry, i don't consider funny to be an good thing for an RPG.

Fallouts? Wizardry 8? Anachronox (ok, not RPG)?

There was a lot of butthurt back when it was released.

And it was glorious. :manlytear:

Tell me about how RPGs began in 1997

Are those games good because of humour, as empi said " how could i say that the FUNNIEST rpg was no good", or are those games good because something else? What do you think?
Personaly i didn't enjoy fallout for its humour, but for it's other qualities, and i am pretty damn sure i am not the only one.

No I said "funnest", not "funniest", you fucking idiot

 

[Emily]

I am sorry, i don't consider funny to be an good thing for an RPG.

Fallouts? Wizardry 8? Anachronox (ok, not RPG)?

There was a lot of butthurt back when it was released.

And it was glorious. :manlytear:

Tell me about how RPGs began in 1997

Are those games good because of humour, as empi said " how could i say that the FUNNIEST rpg was no good", or are those games good because something else? What do you think?
Personaly i didn't enjoy fallout for its humour, but for it's other qualities, and i am pretty damn sure i am not the only one.

No I said "funnest", not "funniest", you fucking idiot

I acctualy checked if the funnest is an acctual word, before posting, and turns out it isn't, so i assumed you meant funniest
And no need for harsh language, trash, cause this one is on you.
But even so, even if killing things and getting fat l00t is fun for you, it still dosen't make any argument, especialy since my original post was 2 main issues i had with a game
1)too easy
2)imbalanced

 

[Turjan]

I acctualy checked if the funnest is an acctual word, before posting, and turns out it isn't...

Well, you should get a better dictionary. Or do you consider RPG Codex as bastion of formal speech?

 

[Marquess Cornwallis]

I acctualy checked if the funnest is an acctual word, before posting, and turns out it isn't, so i assumed you meant funniest
And no need for harsh language, trash, cause this one is on you.
But even so, even if killing things and getting fat l00t is fun for you, it still dosen't make any argument, especialy since my original post was 2 main issues i had with a game
1)too easy
2)imbalanced

"Funniest" = most funny (i.e. we are talking about wit), "funnest" = most fun (i.e. we are talking about general enjoyability). Incidentally, this game has both. Yes, it may be a bit on the easy side unless you opt for the highest difficulty, which is generally recommended (and happens to have been discussed at considerable length in this thread). I'd also suggest reading through the previous pages if you think the skills are "unbalanced" and "do nothing". You will find there is a large variety of tips as to which skills are "clearly the best", precisely because almost all skills are viable in certain combinations, although this may not be apparent if you have only played the game for 5 hours. Exploration, humour, wide selection of quests and the dragon form are some of its strongest points, but the best part -- and something that is hard to really put a finger on -- is the overall no-nonsense focus on fun gameplay, which is what empi had in mind.

 

[DraQ]

Are those games good because of humour, as empi said " how could i say that the FUNNIEST rpg was no good", or are those games good because something else?

Each game has its own strengths and weaknesses, each has different components that are absolutely critical to its quality.

Would Anachronox be good without humour?
Let's see:
- absolutely shit mechanics (it's a jPG)
- almost perfectly linear
+ good characters and story, but they are permeated by the humour of the game

Anachronox not only wouldn't be good without humour but it wouldn't WORK without it. Sure if you replaced plot and characters with even as similar as possible ones (and of similar top-notch quality), but not involving much humour, it might have worked, but it would be a completely different game. If you just replaced all humour in Anachronox with forced, unfunny attempts at lulz it would be an utter turd.
So, yeah, it's good because of humour, humour is its critical component.

Would Wizardry 8 be good without humour?
This question is more difficult because humour in Wizardry is rather subtle. It isn't even a proper humour, but something resulting from very self-conscious campiness overload of the game. Wizardry 8 *might* work without it, but it would require thorough redesign of the setting, as the humour is integral to it, and whether it would work would depend on this redesign. Dead serious Wiz8 with some bland and generic setting might work for TB blob fanatics, but it'd probably wear me down before Arnika.
Dead serious Wiz8 with something imaginative and nonstandard for the setting would probably work well, but it would be an entire different game, something closer to blob TB Morrowind, perhaps.

Fallouts would probably work well enough without the humour.

Now, Divinity 2 would probably go from awesome to unbearable without humour. For starters its setting is really, really high fantasy to the point where "high" is used similarly as it is when referring to drug use. It also has very clearly defined good and evil. Without humour and irony it would probably be puke inducing, even though humour is hardly the only good thing in this game. Apart from nice visuals and music as well as diverse locations this game has pretty diverse skillset (yup, there are problems with it, namely that certain skills are useful with even single point put in them, while others require lifelong commitment to not become a complete waste of points - that's bad), good exploration involving a lot of z-axis, and some nice quest branching, still branching quests wouldn't save this game if it was serious with the kind of setting it has.

 

[Metro]

As others have noted using 'funnier' and 'funniest' to describe something as enjoyable (as opposed to merely humorous) is grammatically correct. And, yes, Bratislav is a pretty obvious troll.

I got this during the Steam Autumn sale, played four or five hours, haven't picked it up in well over a month. Gamebryo engine ruins the combat. The questing/storyline is okay but nothing amazing. I just don't see what people raved about.

Where are you after 4-5 hours? Did you leave the first area?

Sorry, just noticed this as it was a good two months after my initial post. I got past that tutorial area and started to do quests in the first 'real' area (although I honestly can't remember what it's called). Killed some goblins, found that hidden cellar thing, met the necromancer dude in that cave or whatever on the cliff, went to the bandit hideout, etc. I don't really have a complaint about the story and content itself, it's just the combat is so dreadfully weak because of the engine -- it's particularly magnified in my case since I'm playing a melee character. I could play another twenty hours and the combat would still be weak and unsatisfying.

 

[DraQ]

I could play another twenty hours and the combat would still be weak and unsatisfying.

Well, Divinity 2 is ridiculously high fantasy, so even melee fighters get a lot of flashy abilities at higher levels.

 

[thesoup]

Speaking about high fantasy and Divinity 2, are there any dwarfs or elves in the game?

Well, anyway. A few minutes ago I completed DKS. Must say it was a very enjoyable ride.

It has nice visuals, especially if we keep in mind that this is gamebyro, the shittiest of all shit engines. While the character models aren't anything spectacular, they felt a lot more organic than anything in a Beth game. Also, great soundtrack. Best one I heard in years. The setting, writing, humor and overall atmosphere is where this game probably shines the most and all these little things elevate it from being mediocre. The combat, while the weakest part, wasn't bad for me. It just wasn't anything special. There were fun moments, though, especially in the beginning when I was completely underpowered. I expected "next gen hard" when I selected the "hard" difficulty and blood was pissed. Lots of it. But fuck it - I like overcoming challenges, and it was actually fun, even if I had to run, kite and generally act as a retard to finish off my enemies. After sentinel island, however, I was so brutally overpowered and basically had infinite amounts of mana so I steamrolled over everything in my way from there on to the end of the game (yes, including bosses).

There will obviously be a sequel and I don't mind.

 

[DraQ]

Speaking about high fantasy and Divinity 2, are there any dwarfs or elves in the game?

I don't think there are any in game, but they certainly exist or existed in-universe.

After sentinel island, however, I was so brutally overpowered and basically had infinite amounts of mana so I steamrolled over everything in my way from there on to the end of the game (yes, including bosses).

I remember that in base ED there was fucking rape avalanche coming at you when you emerged on Sentinel Island. On normal.

You desperately needed stuff like firewall or explosive arrows that just became available around that time to merely survive.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

So...

Because of this thread I got curious. Game looks a bit generic but y'all seem to almost universally approve. Really? Downloading the demo now. Can somebody sum up the major high points of this game?

 

[thesoup]

Just browse a few pages back.

DraQ
I dunno. Charm + fireball + magic missile + magic blast worked pretty fine. That and lots of running away to replenish my mana. The base was easy with guerrilla tactics. Charm was the most important spell for me early on in the game. I was level 11 when I first entered Maxos' tower. I had to fight 4 level 14 skeletons in a 4x4 room. At level 11. And repeat that 3 more times. God bless charm. I was underleveled pretty much for the entire game. Guess I skipped too many sidequests without knowing. I was always 2-4 levels weaker than my enemies.

I'll do warrior run one day. How difficult is playing as a warrior?

 

[Renegen]

PROS:
story
voice acting
exploration
hidden shit
tons of sidequests
a lot of skills

CONS:
only an action RPG?

It's just better than pretty much every other open world RPG released around the same time. I personally enjoyed that the game didn't feel like it was holding your hand.