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Grimoire Thread
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Dorateen
Arcane
This weekend in Grimoire, our party's Ranger became a Pirate.
Parsifarka
Arcane
Master Thal subdues yet another butthurt reviewer:
After spouting thisrapist ally fantasy
-which was elegantly dismissed by the developer- the afraid wimpy ??sap?? proceeded to write the following review full of wrath, confusion and despair
To which Mr. Blakemore responded pithily
Steam trembles. Incline keeps inclining.
After spouting this
May I suggest eliminating the gender difference? It's a little chauvanist, as it makes the idea of a party of all women ridiculous if one is trying to minmax. If there needs to be a noticable difference between the genders, why not have it be race specific and/or affect other stats aside from str and fel in other races? Maybe giant or aeorb females are bigger and stronger than males (as is the case in many species of animal and insect)? And maybe drow females get a boost to int and/or wis whereas drow males get a boost to str/con like in the D&D games? There are plenty of ways to do this that would lead to more diverse and strategic party creation without singling females out completely as someone you just use for barter and diplomacy then ditch when a better npc roles allong. (this conjures up the image of her waiting back at town cooking and cleaning waiting for her men to return, lol)
-which was elegantly dismissed by the developer- the afraid wimpy ??sap?? proceeded to write the following review full of wrath, confusion and despair
Eh...what can I say? The game is definately archaic, but to a fault. While it has great nostalgic value, all the problems with the old Wizardry/Might and Magic type games are also present here, including ambiguous or confusing puzzles, steep learning curve, and lack of balance between character options.
Also, for some strange reason, there is a small difference between male and female characters, regardless of race or class. Females are weaker but supposedly have a bonus somewhere else, either agility or fellowship (charisma), but the reports about this are varied. Other players have stated that they don't feel this impacts gameplay significantly, but in that case, why is it present? I attempted to have a discussion with others regarding this detail, and this was the developers reply to my post; "This was a great troll post, I loved it. Some people's SJW interpretations are incredible, they are even funnier than actual SJWs.
JUST PUT THE SOY MILK DOWN AND PUSH AWAY FROM THE TABLE."
https://steamcommunity.com/app/650670/discussions/0/1471967529573110571/?ctp=25#c1762481957318116916
I guess being called a social justice warrior is supposed to be insulting? In which case I think it's a little messed up to insult someone for proposing a suggestion in the thread you pinned for suggestions. Additionally, he also deleted a thread I started about this subject. Between these experiences and other activity and reviews I have seen, I have concluded that this developer is a bully.
The controls regarding combat and character actions are complicated and confusing and take a lot of getting used to, but I suppose it's as streamlined as it can be for a game of this type.
Lots of beautiful hand-made content, but nothing I haven't seen in dozens of old games. The game adds nothing new or valuable to the genre. The music and sound affects are also hand made, and typically annoying. I will never get the sound of a group of bandits singing "Hidey Hidey Ho!" over and over and over again out of my head.
Some minor technical problems too. Game won't minimize, messing with resolution can cause black screen only fixable by deleting a config file, not 1 but 2 time consuming splash/loading screens, tooltips are often too generalized and there's no transparency regarding the options for character and party creation. So you kind of have to guess at it and start over several times to find out what works good with what and on who.
Many people complain about the lack of manual, largely because the promise of a manual has been dangling out there for quite a while. I can say that this doesn't surprise me, the game has so many complicated calculations and logistics crammed into it that the manual, when released, will likely read like stereo assembly instructions, or be of no help at all.
Overall, I'd say you are better off finding and buying the old games you miss for a fraction of what the developer is charging for this game. You won't be missing much except for length, terrible interface, and over-complexity of gameplay.
Edit: To prove my point, this developer, in addition to leaving the rather nasty comment below, has also banned me from the game forum in retailiation to my review, just like he has done to some other reviewers before me. I would like to clarify; I was never insulted about the gender differences in this or any other games. I merely made a suggestion in the forum that the other races could have other kinds of gender differences, and gave reasons as to why it makes sense in support of my suggestion. I AM, however, insulted by the developers reaction. That is all.
Also, for some strange reason, there is a small difference between male and female characters, regardless of race or class. Females are weaker but supposedly have a bonus somewhere else, either agility or fellowship (charisma), but the reports about this are varied. Other players have stated that they don't feel this impacts gameplay significantly, but in that case, why is it present? I attempted to have a discussion with others regarding this detail, and this was the developers reply to my post; "This was a great troll post, I loved it. Some people's SJW interpretations are incredible, they are even funnier than actual SJWs.
JUST PUT THE SOY MILK DOWN AND PUSH AWAY FROM THE TABLE."
https://steamcommunity.com/app/650670/discussions/0/1471967529573110571/?ctp=25#c1762481957318116916
I guess being called a social justice warrior is supposed to be insulting? In which case I think it's a little messed up to insult someone for proposing a suggestion in the thread you pinned for suggestions. Additionally, he also deleted a thread I started about this subject. Between these experiences and other activity and reviews I have seen, I have concluded that this developer is a bully.
The controls regarding combat and character actions are complicated and confusing and take a lot of getting used to, but I suppose it's as streamlined as it can be for a game of this type.
Lots of beautiful hand-made content, but nothing I haven't seen in dozens of old games. The game adds nothing new or valuable to the genre. The music and sound affects are also hand made, and typically annoying. I will never get the sound of a group of bandits singing "Hidey Hidey Ho!" over and over and over again out of my head.
Some minor technical problems too. Game won't minimize, messing with resolution can cause black screen only fixable by deleting a config file, not 1 but 2 time consuming splash/loading screens, tooltips are often too generalized and there's no transparency regarding the options for character and party creation. So you kind of have to guess at it and start over several times to find out what works good with what and on who.
Many people complain about the lack of manual, largely because the promise of a manual has been dangling out there for quite a while. I can say that this doesn't surprise me, the game has so many complicated calculations and logistics crammed into it that the manual, when released, will likely read like stereo assembly instructions, or be of no help at all.
Overall, I'd say you are better off finding and buying the old games you miss for a fraction of what the developer is charging for this game. You won't be missing much except for length, terrible interface, and over-complexity of gameplay.
Edit: To prove my point, this developer, in addition to leaving the rather nasty comment below, has also banned me from the game forum in retailiation to my review, just like he has done to some other reviewers before me. I would like to clarify; I was never insulted about the gender differences in this or any other games. I merely made a suggestion in the forum that the other races could have other kinds of gender differences, and gave reasons as to why it makes sense in support of my suggestion. I AM, however, insulted by the developers reaction. That is all.
To which Mr. Blakemore responded pithily
Congratulations on writing one of the most political and irrelevant reviews of Grimoire ever. As I said, you're a parody of LGBT militant social change activism. I cannot believe you expect anybody to think you were the least bit interested in this game for any other reason than pretending to be a casual reviewer and then giving the game a bad review.
Grimoire is not a safe space for people like you and I recommend you to the other ten thousand games on Steam. This one is NOT for you and you are NOT the target audience for the game. If you'd never come here, you'd have never been offended, right? You made the choice to come here into this unsafe space around a known internet bully like me and choose to be mind raped by my offensive and antisocial game about adventure in an imaginary far-off land. You weren't invited and only came here to feign indignation. For the life of me, I can't see anything reasonable in your review.
Grimoire is not a safe space for people like you and I recommend you to the other ten thousand games on Steam. This one is NOT for you and you are NOT the target audience for the game. If you'd never come here, you'd have never been offended, right? You made the choice to come here into this unsafe space around a known internet bully like me and choose to be mind raped by my offensive and antisocial game about adventure in an imaginary far-off land. You weren't invited and only came here to feign indignation. For the life of me, I can't see anything reasonable in your review.
Steam trembles. Incline keeps inclining.
Citizen
Guest
?MELONHEAD? is just butthurt, but his idea of race specific gender differences is very cool. If I'm ever doing an RPG I would steal this.
Bohr
Arcane
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Just checked out that suggestions thread:
Posting suggestions based on walkthroughs for a game you said you'd never buy as you don't like Cleve's political beliefs... is an impressive level of obsession even by Codex standards
Salute
(Unless you pirated it in the end, after all)
Dorateen
Arcane
One thing Grimoire does not get enough credit for is the quality of artwork used in its area transition screens and other intermediary scenes.
Just pick up Bard's Tale Trilogy while you wait.I need V2. Now or next Friday.
Dorateen
Arcane
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Currently the wishlist count is at 36,224 which means the game will cost 19.95$ max...
GOLDEN ERA GAMES [developer] 25 Aug @ 5:38am
Parsifarka
Arcane
v2 will multiply the number of players at least thrice.
Dorateen
Arcane
2019?
Dorateen
Arcane
Do you hear that? The hoofbeats of terrible justice are sounding for the agents of decline!
Cleve saying he is aiming for a date is like saying,"I was aiming for your tits, I don't know how it got all over your face."
Tse Tse Fly
Savant
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Mid-September, late-November, sometime in 2019 or even later -- no matter, I will wait for however long it takes. Too many games to play other than GRIMOIRE.
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Even if V2 is released in September we all know half of these new systems he is introducing will be broken and require months of patching. But to be honest I would not have it any other way, the crazy train ride that has been Grimoires development and release is so enjoyable I will be quite upset on the day it is finally and definitively FINISHED and FEATURE COMPLETE.
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