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Grimoire Thread

Discussion in 'Golden Era Games' started by LESS T_T, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. anvi Prophet Village Idiot

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    Ahh damn that is one pathetic tale, sorry I asked. He should just not interact with the public at all, the public are scum.
     
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  2. Generic-Giant-Spider Arcane

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    YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD STOP THE INCLINE?
     
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  3. Dorateen Arcane

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    If you weed out the negative reviews that show only .2 hours on record, it's more like 80%. Or higher!
     
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  4. anvi Prophet Village Idiot

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    Reviews are so bad if people can bomb them.
     
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  5. Cael Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    Welcome to every review site on the planet. And yes, businesses have been forced to close because sjw cunts got wind of a complaint (usually stupid, spurious and petty) and pack raped the review site to the ground.
     
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  6. anvi Prophet Village Idiot

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    Amazon at least lets you see who has bought the product. I saw a review yesterday for a local company which gave it 0 stars and the guy who gave 0 stars is a competitor you can easily find by clicking the name on the review. Although even Amazon is full of fakes too so they are all kinda worthless.
     
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  7. Cleveland Mark Blakemore Golden Era Games Übermensch Developer Sad Loser

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  8. index.php Arcane

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    https://steamcommunity.com/app/650670/discussions/0/2573194192010988325/
     
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  9. Zep Zepo Titties and Beer Dumbfuck Repressed Homosexual

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    "Custom Portraits" bull-shots button for years...

    Now it's an "Experiment"?

    Show Spoiler
    They're not coming out


    Zep--
     
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  10. Beast British Novice

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    Just bought Grimoire again during the steam summer sale. I initially bought it on preorder but returned it after not having a manual. I need at least 150+ pages to remotely understand Cleve's brilliant game.

    I gotta say, for all the memes and jokes it's a great game. God bless you, Cleve.
     
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  11. PowerTorment Io-Interactive Patron Developer

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    After reaching Mostly Positive I am suddenly excisted. Soon my printed manual, printed hint book, physical DRM free DVD and more will come in the post. It is only slightly delayed.
     
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  12. xuerebx Augur

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    About to start my first playthrough so I've first read the whole bible manual. I was going to look at the race and profession matrices to choose a party with a decently varied skill-set. Are there any skills which are useless investing in, or any skills which are sort of must-haves? Also, should I consider multiclassing at a future level when planning out my party? Thanks!
     
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  13. Wayward Son Fails to keep valuable team members alive

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    Wait so is the game playable?
     
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  14. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Very much so.
     
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  15. Grauken Blobbers forever Patron

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    Has been for years, you've been missing out
     
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  16. Dorateen Arcane

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    If I remember correctly, Wayward Son 's party is still languishing in the Crowl prison.
     
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  17. Butter Arcane

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    You should consider multiclassing a few characters. It can be really tedious if you try to do the full party and you need to constantly reload for better attribute rolls on level-up, but the increased power is very noticeable. Remember to bank your bonus attribute points, but spend your skill points every level, otherwise you'll lose them on the next level.

    For skills, Swimming and Climbing are important for everyone in the party, but you only need a few points invested in order to grind those. Lethal Blow is incredible for anyone who can get it, but again just a few points are necessary before it will level through use. For your martial characters, it's better to spread points among all the weapon skills (Swordsmanship, Spear&Lance, Axe&Scimitar, Bladesmanship, etc) and then let those increase by use, rather than pumping one and trying to only use it. I've never used Archery, Accuracy, Backstabbing, Evasion, Metallurgy, Stealth. Lockpicking is fairly pointless once you get Knock Knock on one of your casters. One party member should level up Ancient History (ideally a multiclasser since they get so many more skill points).
     
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  18. Ludwig von Eisenthal Augur

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    I multiclassed my whole party (after having solo classes up to level 8 or 9) in the first playthrough. I'm not ashamed to confess that I used the baracks in Kublai Axis to pump XP like a madman, almost on an obsessive level. But it was more than worth it, such a great feeling to finally reach the prestige classes and wreak havoc on Hyperborea with a band of crazy Jesters. There is simply no game that ever gave me the same feeling of heroic grandeur.
     
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  19. xuerebx Augur

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    Cheers for the tips! I've created a band of misfits, we'll see how it goes.

    I'm still getting used to the UI and the combat - the text is too damn small, seriously. I have to put my face into the monitor to read anything. And don't get me started on the text in the inventory screen (e.g. checking the TAC)! As for combat (which seems kind of fairly simplistic at the moment), you can't select who to divert your attacks on right as the game automatically chooses?
     
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  20. Dorateen Arcane

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    This is the way it works in Wizardry games, with phased-base combat. You assign commands and can target groups or rows of monsters, but then it plays out and you have no control which monster in a group is hit.
     
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  21. xuerebx Augur

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    Ah, right. Earlier this year I played (and loved) Wizardry 8 and its phased-based combat is different since you can choose who to attack. Now that was a really cool combat system.

    EDIT: Darth Canoli - are you implying they're not different systems? Because they feel like it... not entirely, but enough to see a difference. Anyway I just need to get used to it.

    EDIT after 4 hours of play: OK, just needed a couple of hours of practice, now I've gotten used to the system! Pressing Enter really speeds everything up too. Shame about the ant sized text though, quite annoying.
     
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  22. xuerebx Augur

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    So, I'm trying to keep multiclassing as simple as possible (so, martial characters multiclassing into a martial profession), but there are some things which aren't clear to me.

    1. For example, what is the difference between the Warrior and Berserker? I have both of these professions across 2 characters and apart from some different skills they're basically the same (they're both at level 4, so maybe that's the reason). For magic users it's simpler to understand changing classes as you get different spells, but for fighter classes the benefits aren't apparent.
    2. Should I start multiclassing at earlier levels (say, around level 4) or maybe keep going to level 8 and then swap professions? I haven't used any bonus attribute points on level up yet on any character.
    As a side note, anyone else very shitty in solving the puzzles? Thank gawd for the internet!

    Thanks!
     
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  23. Dorateen Arcane

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    Berserker gets the Lethal Blow skill, which is crucial, and the warrior does not. That is the big difference, but also Berserker has the berserking skill where they can go into a frenzy and do addtional damage, but I never used it. The instant kills are much more satisfying.
     
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  24. Butter Arcane

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    Multi-classing at level 4 is probably not correct. You'll level up more if you wait, and sometimes you just don't have enough attributes banked at level 4.
     
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  25. Ludwig von Eisenthal Augur

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    Yes, I'd wait until at least level 8 before changing class as you can bunker much more attribute points that way (which is extremely important in the long run, if you want to access the really cool classes). There is no need to rush into class changes. At the end every one of my character had at least 5 class changes.
     
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