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Grimoire Thread

Discussion in 'Golden Era Games' started by LESS T_T, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. Lady Error █▓▒░ ░▒▓█ Patron

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    The early difficulty is really not trivial, especially if you start in Crowl or use the early stick weapons instead of unequipping them. I'd say the gang outside Crowl is more akin to the first early challenge or that undead mini-boss in Aquavia - which is actually directly inspired by Ra-Sep-Re-Tep.

    You can have alternate weapons enchanted or poisoned and store them for a fight when you might need them, eg. a boss fight. Though yeah, overall that stuff is not important.
     
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  2. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Oh yeah, those Black Hand bandits, I had to leave those for later, you're right.

    Also Rosie can make the very early game super trivial but even without her your mages will get mass-blast spells like Shrill Sound, Magic Missiles or Fireball very soon (I wanna say on lvl2? maybe 3) and start raeping on their own.

    So in general, IF you don't read the manual beforehand, IF you assemble a bad party, IF you don't use your racial powers and IF you don't recruit Rosie the game can be difficult in the first hour or so.

    I don't wanna bitch too much about balance though. So far I'd say Wizardry 7 nailed balance better (in fact it's probably the best balanced RPG I know) but even it collapses into triviality by the time you get to Ukpyr, especially if you know what you're doing. Plus, as I said, I'm still in Samhain, which is what, maybe 20% in, based on the reviews? Still plenty of time for tough fights.

    (Btw I'd REALLY loved to hear from Cleve what exactly various difficulty grades do and if they can be changed mid-game/without restarting).
     
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  3. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    You have to remember that Grimwah doesn't concern itself too much with balance, and in fact eventually the game turns into a massive cheesefest, so you should just kick back and enjoy the ride :M
     
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  4. Piotrovitz Learned

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    QQ - is metallurgy working now, i.e can you craft weapons and shit?
     
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  5. cvv Arcane Patron

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    It better be since my Metalsmith has been pumping Metallurgy almost exclusively since the get to.

    :outrage:
     
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  6. Lady Error █▓▒░ ░▒▓█ Patron

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    That's a good question. Never did it myself. The manual says: "The ability to forge powerful weapons and to construct them from components."

    So I suppose the forges are where you forge weapons, but from what components?
     
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  7. Dorateen Arcane

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    From the Grimoire Manual:

    So you use the skill metallurgy in conjunction with the Forge Craft, to increase a bonus on pieces of armor.
     
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  8. Lady Error █▓▒░ ░▒▓█ Patron

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    Right, I remember doing the AC bonus for armor, but it also wears off quite fast. I guess the crafting from components was his initial idea, which is now the AC bonus.
     
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  9. Piotrovitz Learned

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    Meh, so it's nothing to write home about and makes the whole metalsmith class kinda redundant and just make you want to have another saurian berserker instead.

    Anyway, I just started again on higher difficulty, and the number of mobs on most of encounters is noticably higher. Changing this previously during the game did not seem to change anything.
     
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  10. Piotrovitz Learned

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    Are bard instruments worth it, like in wiz 8?

    I dont have pure bard now, and raising music skill on aeorb sage may take forever.
     
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  11. Lady Error █▓▒░ ░▒▓█ Patron

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    Music instruments and the speed of the music skill increase were nerfed, but there are some good instruments in the game. It's basically a free unlimited spell machine and many of those are crowd-control spells.
     
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  12. Butter Arcane

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    Music is strong. You can get free mass paralysis pretty early in the game. Don't start with a bard though. Bard is the only class that can multi into Jester.
     
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  13. Gunnar Savant

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    Metalsmith can't be class changed into, so it's a good starting class to take if you're trying to maximize your gains from class changing.
     
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    Cleve, you ready to roll?
     
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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    I heard there's a new bug out there called Coronavirus, why don't you go away for the umpteenth time and chase that? [​IMG]
     
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  16. Incendax Augur

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    Never finished my last playthrough. Taking a second shot at it.
    Single Class challenge.
    Is there any class that is absolutely 100% necessary? As far as content or puzzle solving is concerned.
     
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  17. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Aw shit. So I guess you need to restart if you're after a different difficulty.

    Now do I want to restart 20 hours in....

    Goddamn, this game already made me work harder than Wizards&Warriors back in the day.
     
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  18. V_K Arcane

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    Well, personally, I did resort to restarting W&W some 20-ish hours in because of the fucking mantraps :argh:
     
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  19. Rpguy Arcane Patron

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    It seems there are a few new bugs in the game now, the screen resolution and the difficulty were all fine back when I played it. I logged in again today to check it and it's unplayable for me.
     
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  20. cvv Arcane Patron

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    In what way?
     
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  21. Haba Harbinger of Decline Patron

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    If you want to actually complete the game, stronk classes that kill stuff dead fast are 100% needed.

    If you want to do all puzzles 'n stuff, you need certain skills (Ancient History) etc.

    Completing the game without a sage will be a challenge.
     
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  22. Lady Error █▓▒░ ░▒▓█ Patron

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    I think you can finish the game with any class. Without a Sage, there are maybe a couple optional puzzles that you cannot solve. A bigger question is how you will open chest locks - in theory, you can just take the damage without disarming them.
     
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  23. cvv Arcane Patron

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    That's another thing - I'm taking PALTRY punishment for failing chests. Usually just 10-20HP damage to a single dude. In Wiz7 chest traps usually annihilate your entire party. I wonder if it's tied to difficulty too.
     
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  24. Lady Error █▓▒░ ░▒▓█ Patron

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    I don't know what you think is unplayable. Just checked it and it is fine.
     
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  25. Rpguy Arcane Patron

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    I mean in the resolution area, it was fine before and it got changed. I spent a minute trying to fix it but the text was unreadable in full screen mode, I guess in window mode it will be better? in any case I didn't bother too much because I did not intend to play it, just wanted to test the difficulty issue.
     
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