Hogwarts Legacy - Harry Potter open world action RPG prequel set in the late 1800s

[Morgoth]

No, I'm baffled by how disconnected and seemingly out of the blue your remarks were and I am wondering if you're having a stroke or if there is something coherent behind it. When I say that Tolkien was probably influenced by the cultural memory of the fall of Constantinople and such, and you say that this is "whitewashed racism" then I earnestly don't know what to make of that. Are you saying Islam versus Christianity was a race war? Are you saying that both cultures were actually racist and even if not expressed? Or that Tolkien secretly was a racialist but only used his faith as a cover but that what came before was not racist?

Disconnected? I wrote that Tolkien was a bloke of his time. Projecting the then contemporary racial and cultural stereotypes onto his Middle-earth history and bestiary was to him likely as uncontroversial as executing Indian rebels overseas. Why the image of fantasy that has remained practically unaltered is still being so uncritically gobbled up to this day by the very people that otherwise pretend to be Anti-Imperial guardians is the actual hypocrisy. Vidya journos are unthinking sheep, News at 11.

So genocidal people like Arabs and the Chinese are racist no matter what form their culture takes, even if race is never brought to attention? There is no difference between Han Chinese exterminating Uyghurs and early Chinese imperialist conquests when the modern conception of race did not even exist?

Yes?

(Han) Chinese are racist as fuck, in fact.

 

[Nano]

So, uhm... can I romance Hermione in this? :D

She's -110 years old in this game, you sick fuck.

 

[Drop Duck]

(Han) Chinese are racist as fuck, in fact.

The important part was not the Chinese themselves, but if we can historically say that it was the case when the science behind racialism wasn't there yet.

I wrote that Tolkien was a bloke of his time.

You did not, and he wasn't. He rejected racialism on the basis of his religion, both racism and anti-racism are modern inventions that need newer parts to make the dialectic work. Was there actually anything racist about putting down Indian rebellions? If those that ruled India, Muslims or Christians were actually racist then perhaps you could also make the case that Indian rebellions to these empires were also racist in nature? That the source of their opposition was a racial superiority complex and they couldn't handle Anglo or Uzbekistani people being in charge for example? Just as some modern British are racist against the current leadership for not being of their preferred race?

Projecting the then contemporary racial and cultural stereotypes onto his Middle-earth history and bestiary

But he didn't project contemporary cultural and racial stereotypes? That's all in your head, not in his. The orcs are not black, or Germans, or Turks.

 

[Morgoth]

So where do you think he got his ideas for his projections? Of course he had to derive it from his own worldly experience.

 

[Drop Duck]

So where do you think he got his ideas for his projections? Of course he had to derive it from his own worldly experience.

There are these things called books and you can read them. Tolkien's thing was myth, linguistics and Christianity. Where Tolkien got all the ideas from is well documented. Instead of calling him a racist you could read The History of Middle-Earth and find out for yourself. I don't want to get this thread any more off-topic but I think you have an erroneous idea that imperialism and racism have a special kind of relationship. They do not. Imperialism can be anti-racist and often were, and anti-imperialism can be racist, and almost always is, since racialism is central to the argument against empire.

 

[Morgoth]

Fair enough.

 

[fantadomat]

So where do you think he got his ideas for his projections? Of course he had to derive it from his own worldly experience.

There are these things called books and you can read them. Tolkien's thing was myth, linguistics and Christianity. Where Tolkien got all the ideas from is well documented. Instead of calling him a racist you could read The History of Middle-Earth and find out for yourself. I don't want to get this thread any more off-topic but I think you have an erroneous idea that imperialism and racism have a special kind of relationship. They do not. Imperialism can be anti-racist and often were, and anti-imperialism can be racist, and almost always is, since racialism is central to the argument against empire.

They are pretty much perversion of actual folklore and mostly from germanic/scandinavian and anglo one. In actual myths creatures like dwarfs and elfs are seen as adversaries of humanity or neutral weird creatures at best,in either cases and encounters end up bad for humies. The idea that lotr is some kind of authentic mythos and history is as delusional as tolking was lol. It just some good fantasy books by some old mad chap. That is like saying that warhammer is real shit because it was based on dark ages/renaissance evropa lol.

 

[baud]

So, uhm... can I romance Hermione in this? :D

She's -110 years old in this game, you sick fuck.

time travel!

 

[CaesarCzech]

Fucking Morgoth One world was not enough no he has to invade another AND HAVE annoying TUMBLR opinions while at it.

 

[Bulo]

They are pretty much perversion of actual folklore and mostly from germanic/scandinavian and anglo one. In actual myths creatures like dwarfs and elfs are seen as adversaries of humanity or neutral weird creatures at best,in either cases and encounters end up bad for humies.

Which forces us to ask, would Lord of the Rings serve to be improved by instead representing the elfs (not elves) as red-capped midges that steal babies from cribs?

 

[Hace El Oso]

There are these things called books and you can read them. Tolkien's thing was myth, linguistics and Christianity. Where Tolkien got all the ideas from is well documented. Instead of calling him a racist you could read The History of Middle-Earth and find out for yourself.

Most people know nothing about Tolkien’s background, studies, academic profession, etc. and instead think he’s just an author in the modern sense like GRRM.

 

[Drop Duck]

They are pretty much perversion of actual folklore and mostly from germanic/scandinavian and anglo one. In actual myths creatures like dwarfs and elfs are seen as adversaries of humanity or neutral weird creatures at best,in either cases and encounters end up bad for humies. The idea that lotr is some kind of authentic mythos and history is as delusional as tolking was lol. It just some good fantasy books by some old mad chap. That is like saying that warhammer is real shit because it was based on dark ages/renaissance evropa lol.

Tolkien was deliberately inventing myth and that was the entire project. Mythopoeia. If you want old folklore you can just read the old stories about that kind of thing.

 

[fantadomat]

They are pretty much perversion of actual folklore and mostly from germanic/scandinavian and anglo one. In actual myths creatures like dwarfs and elfs are seen as adversaries of humanity or neutral weird creatures at best,in either cases and encounters end up bad for humies. The idea that lotr is some kind of authentic mythos and history is as delusional as tolking was lol. It just some good fantasy books by some old mad chap. That is like saying that warhammer is real shit because it was based on dark ages/renaissance evropa lol.

Tolkien was deliberately inventing myth and that was the entire project. Mythopoeia. If you want old folklore you can just read the old stories about that kind of thing.

It is not mythopoeia or what eva,it is fucking writing a fantasy book lol. You can't invent mythology because myths are based on actual things,not invented lol.Tolkin was some mad chap that wanted to write fantasy books but wanted to sound pretentious too about the whole thing. Still a decent books all around,shame that most of his fans are weirdos.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

myths are based on actual things,not invented lol

Ok please tell me where the dokkalfar and svartalfar live because all my threatening letters have been returned to sender.

 

[Wulfric Pinewood]

Fuck Harry Potter, Lego Star Wars Skywalker Saga hit the shelves.

 

[Kem0sabe]

 

[jackofshadows]

Hmm, if there's at least somewhat decent game underneath it could've been a massive hit should it have been released on HP's popularity pick instead of those laughable games. Now? Somehow I doubt that. Apparently there's nothing of worth apart from the visuals since they don't even mention any of that.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

What shitty trailer, my god. ''Look at these pointless features''.

 

[Comte_II]

So uh does Drop Bear write Harry Potter slash fiction?

 

[Nano]

I WANT IT!!

Hopefully there'll be a mod to make all the characters white for full immersion.

 

[Viata]

those laughable games

The PS1 ones were great, though.

 

[thesheeep]

What shitty trailer, my god. ''Look at these pointless features''.

3D Audio!

Incredible!

 

[Nano]

3D Audio!

Incredible!

Publishers used to advertise audio back in the 90s, you know.

 

[Gastrick]

So, uhm... can I romance Hermione in this? :D

You can, but it's the same actress reprising the role...

Spoiler

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Could be cozy, but I doubt it given that it's current year and all.