Grand Strategy Imperator: Rome - the new grand strategy from Paradox

[TemplarGR]

None of the modern PDX games are "deep". They all amount to "Click button, receive mana/buffs".

Paradox never made "deep" games to begin with. Complex? Yes. Badly designed UIs? Yes. No proper tutorials? Hell yes. But deep? Nope.

 

[Silva]

None of the modern PDX games are "deep". They all amount to "Click button, receive mana/buffs".

Paradox never made "deep" games to begin with. Complex? Yes. Badly designed UIs? Yes. No proper tutorials? Hell yes. But deep? Nope.

I think Vicky2 is the deeper one.

 

[Average Manatee]

Vae Victis was good?

It CKfied the characters/game and added actual election/government mechanics. Before that it was just a bland map painting EU tech demo with like maybe 5 total events coded.

That's incredibly impressive that they could overhaul the game that much. Sadly this would never be able to happen in current Paradox games since their DLC policy means that all updated mechanics need to be fully optional and interchangable with all other DLCs.

 

[Agesilaus]

no bros trust me they'll return to Imperator: Rome, it will be a good game soon, best in its class, thousands of DLC expansions, this isn't another Rome: EU situation

 

[razvedchiki]

i saw that there is a mod that converts ck3 battles to the mount and blade 2 battle system (of all things), and was wondering it was possible to convert imperators battles to field of glory 2.

 

[catfood]

I just want a good ancient era strategy game. Why is this so hard to make?

 

[Zariusz]

I just want a good ancient era strategy game. Why is this so hard to make?

Imperium Universalis was quite good, and maybe some roman mods for Warband.

 

[Raghar]

I just want a good ancient era strategy game. Why is this so hard to make?

You'd need me as part of developer team, nowadays on advisor position. 20 years ago on position of leader programmer/game designer.

There are few problems however.
1. Lines of communication stayed short, thus a country couldn't exactly occupy large territory.
2. Warfare was full of stone and bronze stuff. They stopped to use Iron because of rust and low availability. Bronze was massive invention at that time because it didn't corrode and was lasting.
3. Warfare was about removing some genetics from your country, and genetics diseases and theirs prevention were important. Basically, with low food production, too many people in the country typically caused starvation, and NOBODY in ancient ages was stupid enough to let them. (There was also the problem with slavery...)

A lot of that stuff would be VERY politically incorrect.

 

[Space Satan]

Good riddance, this crap could not even get past 3k concurrent players for 2 years.

 

[Silva]

By that logic, COD: Modern Warfare is the best game ever.

 

[TemplarGR]

It is funny that Imperator Rome is probably the best game Paradox ever made. People criticize it, then they go around and buy Crusader Kings III in droves, which is much, much shittier and empty. Paradox fans are morons, they deserve all the overpriced shit they get.

 

[Silva]

It is funny that Imperator Rome is probably the best game Paradox ever made. People criticize it, then they go around and buy Crusader Kings III in droves, which is much, much shittier and empty

Agreed. Even with the blandness of everything besides Rome, Carthage and the Diadochi (which could be fixed with a couple updates), the game has the most interesting framework for Pops, Politics, Culture and Research in a Pdox game in a long time, or ever.

It will be the basis for any serious Pdox release from now on, be it Vicky3 (if it ever happens) or EUV. And it's director, Arheo, is the only glint of hope this shitty company has to go back to it's prestige roots.

 

[Axioms]

It is funny that Imperator Rome is probably the best game Paradox ever made. People criticize it, then they go around and buy Crusader Kings III in droves, which is much, much shittier and empty. Paradox fans are morons, they deserve all the overpriced shit they get.

I don't know about the first part but the second part shitting on CK3 is totally right. It is almost entirely a facade. There is nothing beneath the shell.

 

[Silva]

Apparently interesting mod in the works... https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/mod-imperator-invictus.1473328/

 

[Sranchammer]

Is development dead?

 

[Silva]

Officially it's a pause, but everyone is assuming it's over.

I wonder if it's a blessing in disguise though, as it allows the modders to do their stuff without being hampered by constant updates. The game base is already solid enough, and if modders can address it's handful weak points (like barbarians, diplomacy and trade) it may prove an actual good move from Pdox part in the end.

 

[Sergiu64]

Is development dead?

Doh, and I kept waiting for it to get good before trying it out.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Officially it's a pause, but everyone is assuming it's over.

I wonder if it's a blessing in disguise though, as it allows the modders to do their stuff without being hampered by constant updates. The game base is already solid enough, and if modders can address it's handful weak points (like barbarians, diplomacy and trade) it may prove an actual good move from Pdox part in the end.

So maybe it's time to "buy" the free to play game so I can download mods, then `acquire` a portable version and install the mods on it.

Just like I used to play Paradox games in the good old days. Incline in my book.

 

[Zariusz]

I wish there was a proper medieval mod for Imperator that would add more CK2 elements. Banishing turkish population to mongolia would be glorious.

 

[zapotec]

I am downloading a 500mb patch, woah!
(GOG version)

 

[zapotec]

Mystery solved, a free upgrade to the deluxe version that includes:
Hellenistic world flavor pack
Wallpaper & Extra

 

[Wyatt_Derp]

Is development dead?

Doh, and I kept waiting for it to get good before trying it out.

Be patient for another year and a half for the release of Imperator 2. That will be the good one... or was it Imperator 3? Never can remember.

 

[HeroMarine]

It is funny that Imperator Rome is probably the best game Paradox ever made. People criticize it, then they go around and buy Crusader Kings III in droves, which is much, much shittier and empty. Paradox fans are morons, they deserve all the overpriced shit they get.

I didn't buy either Imperator or CK3, and I had bought all PDOX games prior (yes, including useless stellaris).

 

[TemplarGR]

I didn't buy either Imperator or CK3, and I had bought all PDOX games prior (yes, including useless stellaris).

Imperator is a good game, actually. Not great, but definitely the best ever offering all-around by Paradox Studios. If only they invested more into developing it, it would have surpassed their previous best-ever, Victoria II, that is good but very old by modern standards.

 

[Krivol]

I didn't buy either Imperator or CK3, and I had bought all PDOX games prior (yes, including useless stellaris).

Imperator is a good game, actually. Not great, but definitely the best ever offering all-around by Paradox Studios. If only they invested more into developing it, it would have surpassed their previous best-ever, Victoria II, that is good but very old by modern standards.

I... I agree with TurklarTR... for the first time in my life!

Does that mean... I am kebab lover?