KickStarter INSOMNIA: The Ark - dieselpunk sci-fi action-RPG set on a decaying space station

[Raapys]

It's not 'quality patches' I'm talking about, it's hotfixes that fix singular issues that prevent players from completing the game. You don't mix it in with the other non-critical issues(those need to go through QA to make sure they don't introduce new bugs), you get your best guy on it and get it done asap.

The great irony here is that the first, unpatched version was completable and had a proper stacking inventory, so 1.3 is actually more severely bugged than 1.0.

 

[Puteo]

It's not 'quality patches' I'm talking about, it's hotfixes that fix singular issues that prevent players from completing the game. You don't mix it in with the other non-critical issues(those need to go through QA to make sure they don't introduce new bugs), you get your best guy on it and get it done asap.

The great irony here is that the first, unpatched version was completable and had a proper stacking inventory, so 1.3 is actually more severely bugged than 1.0.

If your code is just a big mass of spaghetti; like pretty much all code made by amateurs; then small changes like that can be a tall order to fix.

 

[fantadomat]

KILL YOURSELF RETARD!!!!

 

[Raapys]

If your code is just a big mass of spaghetti; like pretty much all code made by amateurs; then small changes like that can be a tall order to fix.

Yah, but it's their spaghetti. It's fixing other people's spaghetti that's really tough.

KILL YOURSELF RETARD!!!!

And without that mess, people wouldn't be playing it at all. Like what's happening with Insomnia.

 

[Fenix]

fantadomat this GREATER SHOUT of you haha.
Of hate and despare.

 

[baud]

If your code is just a big mass of spaghetti; like pretty much all code made by amateurs; then small changes like that can be a tall order to fix.

Yah, but it's their spaghetti. It's fixing other people's spaghetti that's really tough.

Once your code is old enough, it's does not matter if you wrote it. Also the issue with big codebase (spaghetti or not), it's that side effects are pain in the ass.

//When I wrote this, only God and I understood what I was doing
//Now, God only knows

https://stackoverflow.com/a/316233

 

[StaticSpine]

I have scarce info about the situation.

There were disputes with the publisher, some people left the team and the guys supporting it now are not the ones who actually coded the game in the first place. That's what I figured from what I've heard and won't speculate any further.

 

[toro]

I have scarce info about the situation.

There were disputes with the publisher, some people left the team and the guys supporting it now are not the ones who actually coded the game in the first place. That's what I figured from what I've heard and won't speculate any further.

Fuck. I was afraid of this but in retrospective it's the only thing which makes sense.

My own post from 20 Oct:

My guess is that there is something happening behind the scenes (between the publisher and the devs) and these delays are simply insincere and dishonest towards their customers. This is no longer a case of rookies mistakes and honestly it doesn't matter who's fault it is: the most supportive people for this game/devs got the shaft.

 

[Jinn]

Well, that's fucked up.

StaticSpine, may we ask what or who your source for this information was?

 

[Vault Dweller]

It's the only explanation that makes sense. Hotfixing game-breaking bugs can be done in a matter of hours. No developer would ignore such bugs in the release month unless the publisher is in the way (see Bloodlines) or they lost the programmer.

 

[CyberWhale]

This is like Troika all over again. A lot worse, actually. The game will stay an unplayable mess until we get some fan patches.

 

[StaticSpine]

Well, that's fucked up.

StaticSpine, may we ask what or who your source for this information was?

A man I know personally talked to a guy from the publishing company.

 

[StaticSpine]

It's the only explanation that makes sense. Hotfixing game-breaking bugs can be done in a matter of hours. No developer would ignore such bugs in the release month unless the publisher is in the way (see Bloodlines) or they lost the programmer.

Did you play the game?

 

[Vault Dweller]

It's the only explanation that makes sense. Hotfixing game-breaking bugs can be done in a matter of hours. No developer would ignore such bugs in the release month unless the publisher is in the way (see Bloodlines) or they lost the programmer.

Did you play the game?

I didn't have time yet (too busy) but it's on my list.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

It's the only explanation that makes sense. Hotfixing game-breaking bugs can be done in a matter of hours. No developer would ignore such bugs in the release month unless the publisher is in the way (see Bloodlines) or they lost the programmer.

Did you play the game?

I didn't have time yet (too busy) but it's on my list.

Just saying, it's got a hell of a colony ship look.

 

[Jinn]

I'm kind of having a bit of a moral dilemma. I was considering posting a thread on the Insomnia steam forums about this situation with the original coders no longer being around, and what that means about the future of the game, but I don't know if it's really good form.

I think I'll wait and see what this "news" about the next patch will be next week. It's shitty that's how the situation went down, but this adds a whole new layer of strange deceit to the game's release. And we're now 6 weeks post release with a game that is still barely playable, which is some straight up bullshit.

 

[fantadomat]

barely playable

The game is very playable and functional,still it have some annoying bugs.

 

[Jinn]

The game is very playable and functional,still it have some annoying bugs.

There are tons of reports of mainline quests still being broken, inventory UI is a huge part of the game and absolutely garbage, the ending is unfinished, there is still tons of untranslated text, the FPS in populated areas caps out at about 30-40 on my mid-higher end system (which fluctuates and stutters due to no fps limiting being available), still no actual numerical representation of XP, broken walls in several places that the player can walk into and fall for infinity, plenty of unexplained systems and game mechanics, etc. To me, for a game I payed near full price for, this is barely playable.

You're one weird motherfucker when it comes to how you pick and choose products to bitch about, especially when it comes to bugs and technical issues. My problem is less with that these problems are present, but more that there is still no solid progress in improving the game. In fact, the game seems to be in worse shape now than release day. Also, I bought the game. Something tells me you did not.

 

[Mustawd]

Also, I bought the game. Something tells me you did not.

Location: Bulgaria

 

[fantadomat]

Also, I bought the game. Something tells me you did not.

Location: Bulgaria

Bigot

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Also, I bought the game. Something tells me you did not.

Location: Bulgaria

Bigot

Did you buy the game though.

 

[toro]

Also, I bought the game. Something tells me you did not.

Location: Bulgaria

Bigot

Did you buy the game though.

Are you serious?

Spoiler

He doesn't buy games.

 

[fantadomat]

Also, I bought the game. Something tells me you did not.

Location: Bulgaria

Bigot

Did you buy the game though.

Are you serious?

Spoiler

He doesn't buy games.

I buy games,but rarely. Not enough money to scramble on every ok rpg that run past me.

ERYFKRAD ,to answer you question. No,but i haven't even finish it yet. Will wait for it to be finished patched.

 

[StaticSpine]

I'm kind of having a bit of a moral dilemma. I was considering posting a thread on the Insomnia steam forums about this situation with the original coders no longer being around, and what that means about the future of the game, but I don't know if it's really good form.

Their community manager is (now) an employee of HeroCraft. The topic potentially has a flavor of "evil publisher drained the life out of poor devs" and I doubt he (his company) will tolerate this (ignoring at best).

Telling the truth would be better for everyone. But it had to be articulated much earlier (if at all possible). Now it can lead only to a bigger shitstorm.

 

[Alienman]

What a shame this whole mess is.