Then what is it? What gameplay mechanics are there that make it not an RPG?
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Jagged Alliance 3 from Haemimont Games
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Then what is it? What gameplay mechanics are there that make it not an RPG?
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No romanceable companions
Shaki
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It's much closer to an RPG than Disco Elysium and Elden Ring were
Souls games are defiantly not RPGs
pm_675
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Because he started playing JA2 a couple of year ago max. So of course for maximun codex cool points he praises 1.13 in all its modding bloated autist glory. Like most people here didn't play ja2 for decades and 1.13 for nearly as long.
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What's so defiant about not being a RPG?
Raghar
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Or you can play JA2 first to see how previous version looked like.
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Nah, I played JA2 near release. Didn't play it that much, spent way more time playing UFO. Then I finally tried 1.13 last year and loved it.
But my criticism for JA3 is mostly because JA3 does not seem to play very similar, it is more like nuXcom compared to UFO.
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I got it when it first came out, so I have played it a few times now. Really good game.
Except that combat is not abstracted like in nuXcom.
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It´s not really like nuxcom compared to UFO since JA3 does have quite a lot of complicated systems under the hood even if sometimes they are half baked.
Let´s not pretend that JA2, 1.13 or not, doesn´t have a whole lot of problems also like gameplay degenerating in prone scoped sniping spam.
Peace out man but it´s kinda is tiresome to get told about a game that I have been playing on and off for 20+ plus years like it´s the second coming of christ, doesn´t have any problems or I don´t know about it. I think that for the majority a people posting in this thread is the same, we already know about Ja2 and 1.13 and perhaps we want something new and slighty different after all this years.
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ArchAngel
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I am not saying it is exactly like nuXcom but it is heavily changed compared to JA2 (for the worse) and I used UFO and nuXcom as example where same shit was done.
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If you are tired of reading my posts you are welcome to not reading or replying. I am not holding a gun to your head.
It is not my fault you like decline games.
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Oh boy the discussions we had on the Discord about this guy. "He's an incel!"
Yosharian
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Some of the comments that people said
"he's a murderer" "he goes on a murderous rampage"
"he forces her [the whore] to be with him"
"he's a psychopathic incel" (upvoted)
"I don't remember Blaubert murdering anyone"
"Blaubert is stable"
When I said that Smiley doesn't actually force the whore to be with him, I was accused of being someone that 'stands up for abusing women'
"Blaubert is a horrible piece of shit but at least he respects consent"
Anyway I just thought it was a funny conversation, Smiley is definitely a complete knobhead either way but it was amusing to see people saying that Blaubert, the literal slave owner, was preferable to him
"he's a murderer" "he goes on a murderous rampage"
"he forces her [the whore] to be with him"
"he's a psychopathic incel" (upvoted)
"I don't remember Blaubert murdering anyone"
"Blaubert is stable"
When I said that Smiley doesn't actually force the whore to be with him, I was accused of being someone that 'stands up for abusing women'
"Blaubert is a horrible piece of shit but at least he respects consent"
Anyway I just thought it was a funny conversation, Smiley is definitely a complete knobhead either way but it was amusing to see people saying that Blaubert, the literal slave owner, was preferable to him
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He was annoying to me until I found out how hated he is and read some of the specific comments about him on Steam. Then I started to like him. Every time I'd hear him, I'd think of how a certain type of person would react and I'd crack a smile. It reached a point where I'd answer him, secretly hoping there was a way his detractors could hear me:
Smiley: I'm like a super cool spy right now.
Saduj: That's right buddy, you sure are!
Smiley: Alejandro Diaz! Brave and noble!
Saduj: Correctomundo on both counts, pal.
Smiley: Let's all walk slow like they do in the movies!
Saduj: Ah, Smiley. Never change!
Edit: And yes I felt bad about betraying Boss Blaubert, at first. But then I thought about how Blaubert's goons attacked me right after I met Smiley. Blaubert was supposed to be my bro and here his goons are trying to kill me without reason. So yeah, fuck that guy.
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I sided with Blaubert even though I wanted Smiley at first. Smiley ultimately seemed not only too psychotic and low Wisdom to be on the team, but also a race-mixer - and I wanted to save him from this fate worse than death. So I sent Smiley away without bloodshed - so far so good. The problem is, later on, some enemy patrol captured the location and they were stationed on the rooftop of Blobert's mansion. When I approached them, I put Grunty with an SMG on readiness mode, but Blobert's men got upset I was machine gunning in the premises and went aggro on me. So I had to slaughter them all. I also lost the hunter because I accidentally aggro'd the buccaneers and they wouldn't issue the quest on account of being dead.
Dead Blobert, no Smiley
Dead Blobert, no Smiley
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Idk man, Mollie is pretty hot. You sure you ain't gay?
Kaidanovsky
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You did it, guys. You finally convinced me to buy the game.
After spending an hour on google trying to figure out how to fix the crash I kept getting at startup, and narrowly avoiding a seizure from the constant screen flashing, I can't wait to get to the meat of the game. I know this is gonna be great. It's not every day that a game that is only fully being released in 2024 wins the 2023 GOTY award.
After spending an hour on google trying to figure out how to fix the crash I kept getting at startup, and narrowly avoiding a seizure from the constant screen flashing, I can't wait to get to the meat of the game. I know this is gonna be great. It's not every day that a game that is only fully being released in 2024 wins the 2023 GOTY award.
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Mortmal
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So I finished the main campaign quite fast. The game was overall quite easy and good fun, but it's too easy to break and swimmin in cash there's hardly any ressources management unlike what i remember from JA2. It's not as bad as Rogue Trader, but there are some team compositions I'd rather not reveal to avoid spoiling other people's fun as they discover the game. Also, I don't know why you criticize BG3 for being woke and not this one. The narrative here, after that nice disclaimer warning us about the horrors of the 90's , was 100% woke, glorifying the noble black president, her daughter, an erudite, while the true evil is a white(?!) army colonel, borderline Nazi. There are no choices, as far as I could see, to take sides, and it's really just a modern woke trope story.
What disclaimer? This one?
How is anything in it woke? Also the story was more campy than woke. Most of the people are black as the location is fictional post colonial West African shithole, all of the random enemies are only african men, so no wahmen soldiers etc. On a scale of wokeness with Original Sin 3, JA3 is 14 out of 88.
I give you that the game piss easy after you get some snipers.
How is anything in it woke? Also the story was more campy than woke. Most of the people are black as the location is fictional post colonial West African shithole, all of the random enemies are only african men, so no wahmen soldiers etc. On a scale of wokeness with Original Sin 3, JA3 is 14 out of 88.
I give you that the game piss easy after you get some snipers.
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