vortex
Fabulous Optimist
Maybe you don't know him as you used to. Saywer changed a lot. Prepare for something unthinkable.
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Incline Josh Sawyer appreciation station
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His hipster tastes haven't changed. He dislikes steampunk, he dislikes Blizzard's shallow corruption storylines.
vortex
Fabulous Optimist
Hmmm. Maybe they have simple storylines but the characters deliver. Sawyer's characters are too complex are usually stay unrecognized and out of this complexity.
Lt. Michael Byrd
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How has Sawyer changed?
his skill as a game designer is directly proportional to the time he spends playing (A)D&D. D&D got him his first job in the industry, and working on D&D products put his skills to the best use. As he started to invest more time into hipster shit like cycling, bitches, tattoos, drinking and partying, his abilities declined.
Then he tried to be smarter than everyone and create a better roleplaying system than D&D, instead of being grateful for all the good things it had done for him. Classic case of hubris.
Hagashager
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To be fair, he didn't just leave DnD, DnD very definitely left him. WotC current philosophy is so far gone even Sawyer's Neo-Liberal lifestyle would still be too problematic.
He dared to make a historical video-game set during the Age of Discovery that didn't also involve relentlessly flagellating Europeans for the slave trade and colonization.
I disagree with this statement ser. Have you seen his Twitter feed? And Vax passport?
By the black gods of the void, tis foul.
Hagashager
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I do not have Twitter and never will. On a scale from "hilarious" to "become a nihilist" how bad is it?
If you see earlier, I said how I wanted to join his convo and call him a fag and a loser, but it was just too gay.
And I've sucked dick.
And I've sucked dick.
luj1
You're all shills
He just isn't a good lead and never will be. Doesn't have the balls for system design
Soyer works best when he is led, not the other way around
Pillows 1 was kind of ballsy, though for Deadfire my guess is there was a lot more input from other people (dangerhairs) he didn't have the guts to dismiss. Maybe he even welcomed that kind of contribution, depending on how many soy lattes he had before.
Of course the only woman in the oil sands was just infiltrating for a book instead of doing honest work.
Wonder if that was something they expected.
Dishonoredbr
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I like when New Vegas Man talk about drinks/alcohol.
Pillars of Eternity suffered from stretch goals. Rather than develop a core basis of its systems, they began fishing for money by selling everyone on niches. In an attempt to make those niches meaningful and distinct, the fundamental systems suffered. They could have started with magic users and non-magic users, then branched out from there. Instead they got overly granular and turned everything into a gimmick that sucked.
The only smart choice that came from all of that was to disconnect skills from classes.
luj1
You're all shills
Hopefully someone understands, expressed im one simple sentence, one of the major problems of modern RPGs.
luj1
You're all shills
I doubt there was an effort to make them meaningful and distinct. The effort was only in making them in basic form. These are shallow systems.
Pillars is not the only culprit, but also Owlcat games.
Yeah I think this a big factor. They try to stuff everything in and a lot of it ends up poorly integrated - often, you can see that it might have been better if they'd spent more time on it, but they seldom do and are always rushed.
It's a painful thing to contemplate for me, because I want all the things in my computer games. But we're always bumping up against limitations of budget, manpower, enthusiasm, ROI for suits, etc.
Nah, the unions make sure that no hard physical labor takes place, and there are plenty of women working there as hiring is based entirely on who you know and getting the wife a job there means two six figure incomes in the household.
It's not so much that he tried to have everything. It's that Sawyer was cutting up the cake before it was even baked. That's a recipe for disaster. You get the wizard and spells right before you get the specialist correct. You get your basic fighter correct before you start creating barbarians and monks. He oversold something that didn't exist, and he fell on his face. Not merely that, but he made the general gaming public think that this kind of game was a relic, and not worth reviving. PoE was the standard bearer for the next wave of IE-like games, and it died at birth.
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