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Hagashager

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Always self-aware:


What's with this word-salad shit I keep seeing everywhere.

What does that tweet say? I get it, he's trying to say he's conflicted over being authetic but still self-aware to the genre of fantasy, but fuck me if that verbal diarrhea was understandable.

More and more these pseudointellectuals read less like armchair philosophers and more like stroke victims.
 

Tyranicon

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I miss when talented people worked on things they believed in, instead of helping massive corporations drain money from braindead children by producing formulaic content™.
 

Roguey

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Always self-aware:


What's with this word-salad shit I keep seeing everywhere.

What does that tweet say? I get it, he's trying to say he's conflicted over being authetic but still self-aware to the genre of fantasy, but fuck me if that verbal diarrhea was understandable.

More and more these pseudointellectuals read less like armchair philosophers and more like stroke victims.


"I don't like traditional fantasy but my instinct is to make the world more grounded rather than have characters make snarky comments about the things they find dumb in it."

"This is less appealing to people who love traditional fantasy, but it's what I like. We can also potentially go too far, taking everything in it too seriously."

"Both directions are reactions to disliking or being ashamed of the genre while being forced to make a work rooted in its conventions."
 

Hagashager

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Always self-aware:


What's with this word-salad shit I keep seeing everywhere.

What does that tweet say? I get it, he's trying to say he's conflicted over being authetic but still self-aware to the genre of fantasy, but fuck me if that verbal diarrhea was understandable.

More and more these pseudointellectuals read less like armchair philosophers and more like stroke victims.


"I don't like traditional fantasy but my instinct is to make the world more grounded rather than have characters make snarky comments about the things they find dumb in it."

"This is less appealing to people who love traditional fantasy, but it's what I like. We can also potentially go too far, taking everything in it too seriously."

"Both directions are reactions to disliking or being ashamed of the genre while being forced to make a work rooted in its conventions."

https://youtu.be/pele5vptVgc
 
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The problem with always being different is that at the end of the day, everything and everyone will be different. There's nothing inherently wrong with knights with big shields and swords and wizards with pointy hats.
 

BlackheartXIII

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You realize that JOSH spends most of his day pressing F5 on this thread while pleasuring himself?

Stop feeding this kid's ego! Ban this thread.
Don't be like that. Don't kill his fun, it's probably the only source of serotonin he has left these days.

By all means, Josh. Keep going. You naughty little boy.
 

Tyranicon

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He looks like he's about to start a political movement. Hard to believe he's almost 50.
 

Roguey

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Sawyer utterly crushed:



playing pentiment

josh sawyer is great because he has really interesting ideas but no concept of subtext so he just has all of his characters loudly voice his themes so that you don't get confused

as opposed to chris avellone who really likes subtext and implications but is fucking stupid as shit


Josh Sawyer in 2012 said:
In The Dark Knight, almost every major character explicitly describes his or her role in the film (e.g. "I am an agent of chaos."). If you didn't catch what was happening at the end, Commissioner Gordon explains it to his child. The only real reason to include this sort of exposition is if you think your audience is as clueless as Gordon's kid.

The characterization is fine, it's just shallow. You pretty much get everything you ever need to get out of any given character from what they say, which I find uninteresting as a viewer.

He became the thing he hates. Accurate assessment of Avellone too. :M
 

notpl

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Sawyer utterly crushed:



playing pentiment

josh sawyer is great because he has really interesting ideas but no concept of subtext so he just has all of his characters loudly voice his themes so that you don't get confused

as opposed to chris avellone who really likes subtext and implications but is fucking stupid as shit


Josh Sawyer in 2012 said:
In The Dark Knight, almost every major character explicitly describes his or her role in the film (e.g. "I am an agent of chaos."). If you didn't catch what was happening at the end, Commissioner Gordon explains it to his child. The only real reason to include this sort of exposition is if you think your audience is as clueless as Gordon's kid.

The characterization is fine, it's just shallow. You pretty much get everything you ever need to get out of any given character from what they say, which I find uninteresting as a viewer.

He became the thing he hates. Accurate assessment of Avellone too. :M

chris avellone, famous for writing characters who don't look directly at the player and monologue on the game's themes

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I'm not bothered by Josh, in fact, I've enjoyed most of his works rather than the opposite. His online persona is cringy, but I can feel the conflict within him. Devs from his generation sold themselves to the zeitgeist but he's not too comfortable with that, probably because he's read two or three books in his life, which is more than what your average tech guy has read in their lives.
 

S.torch

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Sorry, but I have 0 sympathy for sold outs that on the top of it have it easy with more resources than any member of younger generations to make a change. Instead they enjoy the good position while being good boys to the system.
 

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