KickStarter Kingdom Come: Deliverance - Dan Vavra's medieval chad simulator

[Jrpgfan]

He said what about what girl and why?

I don't remember if it was on this thread, but he posted a pic(a mugshot) of a woman, asking if we found her attractive, and said he doesn't think she is and compared her to Angelina Jolie(thus implying he thinks Jolie is ugly aswell). He was looking for models advice IIRC and that girl was probably either auditioned or picked by someone from his staff to serve as a model for the game.

I remember I got in an argument with a female poster here right after I disagreed with him(something to do about me asking Vavra to bring me to Prague nights with him because if that girl was bellow his standards he must be a huge playboy).

 

[cvv]

a female poster here

 

[Lyric Suite]

Angelina Jolie isn't ugly but i find that "excessive" beauty to be, well, excessive, and a lot of empty brained thots strive to achieve that kinda of look through ton of make up or even surgeries.

Outward formal perfection isn't the only criteria for beauty and in most cases the shallowness of the person shines through even the most perfect and symmetrical facial features which is a recurring theme with a lot of those plastic celebrities. There's nothing that makes me cringe more than portrait packs for an RPG that include touched up pictures of famous actors or singers. There used to be a ton of these for BG back in the day. Maybe that's what Vavra was trying to go for i don't know. It's interesting that the two romantic interestes in the game aren't super beauties. Theresa is a bit comely as you'd expect a peasant to be and Lady Stephanie definitely looks older than Henry. Clearly Vavra was trying to avoid any idealized "Hollwyood" look.

 

[Jrpgfan]

Angelina Jolie isn't ugly but i find that "excessive" beauty to be, well, excessive, and a lot of empty brained thots strive to achieve that kinda of look through ton of make up or even surgeries.

Outward formal perfection isn't the only criteria for beauty and in most cases the shallowness of the person shines through even the most perfect and symmetrical facial features which is a recurring theme with a lot of those plastic celebrities. There's nothing that makes me cringe more than portrait packs for an RPG that include touched up pictures of famous actors or singers. There used to be a ton of these for BG back in the day. Maybe that's what Vavra was trying to go for i don't know. It's interesting that the two romantic interestes in the game aren't super beauties. Theresa is a bit comely as you'd expect a peasant to be and Lady Stephanie definitely looks older than Henry. Clearly Vavra was trying to avoid any idealized "Hollwyood" look.

I'm almost sure you replied to Vavra and disagreed with him aswell.

There was no "excessive beauty" at all. It was a very attractive slav girl and that was pretty clear even if the picture was taken in non-optimal conditions(like I said, it was a mugshot).

She looked more or less like this but had thicker lips and eyebrows IIRC

I know I was right because there were quite a few codexers agreeing with Vavra.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Well, i have zero memory of that conversation if i ever saw it (but then me having no memory is nothing new) i was just thinking of a possible rationale, the obvious one being that sometimes "plastic" beauties aren't appreciated even if techically speaking their features are objectively perfect.

Of course, if that's not the case it begs the question of what the hell he was actually trying to go for.

 

[Jrpgfan]

Found the post and the pic. It was on the Pre-release thread.

"We're looking for a pretty young chick for the game, the problem is we can't agree on what is "pretty". This one for instance. Is she pretty? Is she a good pick for the role of a sexy, romantic heroine? Do you find her attractive? Because I don't. To me this photo looks like a mugshot of Angelina Jolie after being arrested for going nuts on crack and beating someone with a sledghammer."

"she ugly me no attracted"

 

[Jrpgfan]

Some gems in that thread btw

Avellone probably shared his 3rd wheeling exit strategy with Vavra that night.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Well, she definitely does look like a mug shot of Angelina Jolie to be honest. Not technically "ugly" and probably just an unflattering picture to begin with but i can see why he didn't think something like that would be a good fit for a "pretty" romantic interest (i mean that woman has a more masculine jaw than Henry does lmao). He does fumble his argument by using the word "sexy" though. Sexy and pretty are not necessarely synonymous with one another.

 

[Jrpgfan]

Well, she definitely does look like a mug shot of Angelina Jolie to be honest. Not technically "ugly" and probably just an unflattering picture to begin with but i can see why he didn't think something like that would be a good fit for a "pretty" romantic interest (i mean that woman has a more masculine jaw than Henry does lmao). He does fumble his argument by using the word "sexy" though. Sexy and pretty are not necessarely synonymous with one another.

Well, he thought this was apparently:

Not that I find her ugly(I've had a girlfriend who looked like a blonde version of her) but IMO the girl he called unattractive is much better looking.

 

[Jrpgfan]

Btw she turned a little different in-game, eh?(and not for good)

Peak love interest for middle ages set videogames.

To each his own, I guess. Some people are attracted to goats(especially in the middle ages) so who am I to judge?

 

[cvv]

"We're looking for a pretty young chick for the game, the problem is we can't agree on what is "pretty". This one for instance. Is she pretty? Is she a good pick for the role of a sexy, romantic heroine? Do you find her attractive? Because I don't. To me this photo looks like a mugshot of Angelina Jolie after being arrested for going nuts on crack and beating someone with a sledghammer."

Saying that in a locker room would be pushing it but hanging it publicly on the webz for everyone to see....I can't even. What an idiotic thing to say, for so many reasons.

 

[SlamDunk]

"Do you find her attractive? Because I don't." - Daniel Vávra

I agree with Vávra, there. She is not attractive.

On the other hand, she's not ugly either, she just looks...

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Mmm....Theresa.

she CUTE

 

[cvv]

"Do you find her attractive? Because I don't." - Daniel Vávra

I agree with Vávra, there.

She is not attractive but not really ugly either. She just looks...

.

Heh. You'd sacrifice a litter of kittens to Agrael if he gave her to you as your gf.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

looks very 'hollywood', she should use less makeup and stop drawing her eyebrows on

 

[Harthwain]

Heh. You'd sacrifice a litter of kittens to Agrael if he gave her to you as your gf.

In the state as listed she's uninteresting. I'd advise her getting a different haircut ASAP. Hitting the gym would help a lot, too.

 

[Lyric Suite]

So Matthew and Fritz want to rob bandits and cumans. You mean that shit i've been doing since day one, why, sign me up.

 

[Modron]

Quoting myself on the subject of that lady last time it came up (plus bonus points for cvv's standards dropping :D).

It's not that the chick is ugly or something. Pretty sure it's someone's type (not mine). That's beside the point tho. She's not what I'd imagine if you said "sexy, sparky romantic heroine". She'd be great as a cold, spoiled, slightly sadistic princess :D

Eh that is probably just the mugshot-esque headshot speaking, any expression whatsoever would improve upon that stone face look.

 

[cvv]

bonus points for cvv's standards dropping :D)

 

[Lyric Suite]

Lmao, talk about bad luck i'm at the part in All That Glisters where i have to chase that German knight. I had to reload three times because i kept getting entangled in the bushes so i couldn't get to him then on the fourth try i finally catch up to him and while i'm having a nice duel a whole group of bandits just comes strolling in with dogs and everything lmao.

I like that cinematic with Radzig where he talks about earthly trials essentially being a test, which is basically a Catholic belief and not a Protestard one (since under Protestantism our merits or lack of thereof mean nothing only accepting Christ can save you what you do and what you are are irrelevant). I'm also starting to suspect there's more going on between him and Henry than what the game is letting on. I mean i thought about that right from the get go but i kept waiting to see if the game gave some clues. It hasn't yet, but its sure peculiar how much interest Razdig seems to have for Henry. Then again, my Henry is one man army Cuman murdering machine you'd think i'd be knighted by now.

 

[The_Mask]

Then again, my Henry is one man army Cuman murdering machine you'd think i'd be knighted by now.

Yeah, this is the only part that is a bit off. Towards the end of the game, you can take on 10+ at once (properly buffed with potions, of course), sometimes even more, and people will still treat you as a that lucky blacksmith's kid, when you should *clearly* be knighted.

It's all good. It gets better.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Ho wow, i'm an alcoholic lmao. I thought you had to get smashed to reach that point but it seems just getting tipsy often does the trick and since i'm a filthy save scammer i've basically been running around with a buzz the whole time. I had half a mind of keeping the debuff but i'm not sure if i had to stop drinking alcohol completely for it to go away and i ain't gonna stop using saviour schnapps so i just used the potion to the get rid of it.

Doing the Ashes DLC and it's kinda of nice i can give people from the town a job. I got Kunesh to chop wood and that other guy who used to run the mines is now the trader. Funny thing i paid for that fucking thing but i still have to buy anything from my own trade store. Sheesh. Hope i ain't gonna fuck up anything from the main quest as building anything takes a couple of days but i need the stables so i can buy that Shadow horse and complete my rogue LARP once and for all.

My bow skill is at 7 and i can finally shoot most things reliably with the alcohol buff. I got the hunting perk that makes animals less skittish and its now a breeze to kill them. Hunting meat isn't really that great a way to make money though killing bandits is now much more profitable but i guess it adds variety. I also discovered the Inn guy in Talmberg pretty much buys everything and now that i started selling stuff to him he always has tons of money. Makes selling things anywhere else redundant since the chest is right there. He currently has 42k groschen and i basically got nothing else i want to sell. Best way to make money at this point is just to hunt around for bandits on the north portion of the map and just go back to Talmberg to unload everything to this one guy.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Correction, my bow skill is at 9. Guess i wasn't paying attention i've actually been using the bow to kill enemies and it seems archery is actually overpowered in this game since a lot of them drop dead with a single arrow and even armored guys go down easily if the arrow staggers them which allows you just chain shoot them (and the stagger effect happens often enough).

 

[Lyric Suite]

So neither the charlatan quest or Masquerade lead to anything?

Lot's of unfinished stuff in this game. While i was finishing up some stuff in Sassau i found that Ulrich did is sleeping in the Inn there and was almost tempted to look his shit but then i google it on an hunch and yep, there's a quest where you have to help him and if you steal his shit he is just going to show up naked lmao. I just stole his fancy shirt since i didn't have it and i'm collecting at least one for each item in the game.

 

[Red Hexapus]

So neither the charlatan quest or Masquerade lead to anything?

Don't remember about Masquerade, but the charlatan quest is continued in the Hans Capon DLC.